Alcohol vs water to air
08-08-12, 02:14 PM
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Alcohol vs water to air
hi there i have beem trying to find out what is best for a 1/4 track car but i had no luck so ill just ask here. at this time i have a front mount intercooler 3" in & 3" out i was thinking of removing it and runing a water to air intercooler setup the one option.2 i was told to just run alcohol and do away with both intercooler. I am running VP import racig fuel right now. This is $24 a gallon. I know alcohol would be cheaper but what is better? The car has a full stand alone haltech. 
08-08-12, 03:56 PM
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100% meth if your just tracking the car,
with that said, you will need to double your fuel system in size to compensate for the meth, also have to have a fuel pump rated for methanol. Your normal fuel pump cant deal with meth.
q16 should be abetter option for you then vpimport, you will need to re-tune but not drastically
meth is like3$ per gallon.but not just a put it in the tank and tune conversion.....
with that said, you will need to double your fuel system in size to compensate for the meth, also have to have a fuel pump rated for methanol. Your normal fuel pump cant deal with meth.
q16 should be abetter option for you then vpimport, you will need to re-tune but not drastically
meth is like3$ per gallon.but not just a put it in the tank and tune conversion.....
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I use to run a water/air intercooler. What a pain in the azz over the last few years. Now on a air/air and E85. Yes the air temps are higher at the sensor that is before the t-body but assume temps at the motor are lower. Plus E85 is so much cheaper. Going with a small water/meth injection nozzle just after the intercooler to help with the air temps. (next month)
Meth is 6$ a gallon. Uses twice as mush if not more. So the price of fuel is the same.
E85 is 3.40$ a gallon. Uses 30$ more then gas.
I use to spend 100$ every time going to the track. Now it's 40$ and actually making more power at the same boost level. Win win for me.
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Meth is 6$ a gallon. Uses twice as mush if not more. So the price of fuel is the same.
E85 is 3.40$ a gallon. Uses 30$ more then gas.
I use to spend 100$ every time going to the track. Now it's 40$ and actually making more power at the same boost level. Win win for me.
chuck
08-12-12, 02:35 PM
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I use to run a water/air intercooler. What a pain in the azz over the last few years. Now on a air/air and E85. Yes the air temps are higher at the sensor that is before the t-body but assume temps at the motor are lower. Plus E85 is so much cheaper. Going with a small water/meth injection nozzle just after the intercooler to help with the air temps. (next month)
Meth is 6$ a gallon. Uses twice as mush if not more. So the price of fuel is the same.
E85 is 3.40$ a gallon. Uses 30$ more then gas.
I use to spend 100$ every time going to the track. Now it's 40$ and actually making more power at the same boost level. Win win for me.
chuck
Meth is 6$ a gallon. Uses twice as mush if not more. So the price of fuel is the same.
E85 is 3.40$ a gallon. Uses 30$ more then gas.
I use to spend 100$ every time going to the track. Now it's 40$ and actually making more power at the same boost level. Win win for me.
chuck
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08-13-12, 07:51 AM
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hi there thank's guy's for the good info @ $24 a gallon this car be park more inside then being at the track. you all made my day E85 it is yay. also i know there is a ton of ppl that sell clutch set out there but again im not sure which one to get spec sell one a stage 5 sz375 center iron clutch set
08-28-12, 09:04 PM
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Bumping this back to the top, b/c I would like to add in another question. Has anyone tried E98 in a rotary and it be successful? In this crap hole town I live in, there is only one station that sells E85, and it is actually E78 when I boils down to it. I can get E98 from a fuel dealer and at a good price. I'm on the ropes about my fuel system at this current moment and in the middle of my build. So any info or input is much appreciated! Thanks.
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Bumping this back to the top, b/c I would like to add in another question. Has anyone tried E98 in a rotary and it be successful? In this crap hole town I live in, there is only one station that sells E85, and it is actually E78 when I boils down to it. I can get E98 from a fuel dealer and at a good price. I'm on the ropes about my fuel system at this current moment and in the middle of my build. So any info or input is much appreciated! Thanks.
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well, Im running twin denso pumps. The bosch ones are good too. I dont think the issue (i could be wrong) is the pump. What the most important thing to do run oil that mixes well with the ethanol.
There is a thread on here with a test done on fuel lubricants which brought up some interesting results.
There is a thread on here with a test done on fuel lubricants which brought up some interesting results.
09-11-12, 05:36 PM
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This one here works very well, http://www.klotzlube.com/largeprodimages/BC-175.jpg
Also this other one which is my favorite, http://www.maximausa.com/shopping/in...tafth7g7n118f6
Also this other one which is my favorite, http://www.maximausa.com/shopping/in...tafth7g7n118f6
09-13-12, 12:06 PM
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I'm more than likely going to go with twin Aeromotive 340 pumps. I have always used Castor 927, it's synthetic based so it burns cleaner, and also I always have it around with racing motocross and all. But I haven't had a metering pump on the car since I put the engine in it, and used that brand oil as a pre-mix, and I recently pulled the engine apart to port and overhaul, and the rotors have barely any carbon what so ever. So I will continue using that as a "top oil".
you think that would work?