NOEL MELASA

http://www.grs-motorsports.com/notic...%20adriana.wmv

61620B

But where are the #s.Always Dyno runs but no #s.
You don't need much to go fast with a light car.

I can do that too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrBccBrtlck
Heavy Rx7.

to bad we don't have music.

joeyrotors

yo stop hating !!!! there is no need for numbers he puts up the numbers at then end of the 1/4mile 7.0 @ 194 i bet u cant do that! and remember all of these car that siguel tunes all weigh in at Nhra weight requirements when ur ugly rx7 can put up those # then we will care so till then ... i will never happen !!!! but anyways get off his nuts

crispeed

Popcorn here!
Who got the butter?

Hey Noel you might as well join in. You got any of your dyno videos?

KNONFS

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Can't access youtube from here, but was that a 7.3 @187MPH run? A dyno of a car capable of those times?

Don't complain, at least you got a "steady" glimpse at the turbo

Nayeli is the one that ran that time, Adriana's best time is close to that; but not quite.

prrex4ever

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Hola panita. That's the first thing that caught my eye. That turbo is enormous.

Judge Ito

Rene, don't lower yourself or your standards. your a good guy doing great things on your own right. Siquel Racing will not show much to the public or his competitors. I understand that you and us here in the states will like to see HP#'s but what you need to understand is that, in Puerto Rico, there is a fierce rivalry amongst rotorheads and tuners. They all want to be on top, and that creates a secrecy...

but it's very simple Rene. how much HP will it take, to make that starlet run 7.2@188mph with a weight of 2050lbs?? 900rwhp

RoTaRyBoYz

Why all the hate from the west coast!!!

Tell Abel to show us a dyno slip of the "1700" hp 20b, since its #'s you're after....

61620B

I have no hate,I have met siguel and he is cool person.Just we want to see some #s.
They are good videos but we need some more show and tell.

enzo250

his numbers are 7.1's~7.2's at 188+

Most drag racers like racing at the track not the dyno...

Not trying to be a dick but what difference does it really make what his dyno numbers are?

I usually tune race cars at moderate boost levels on the dyno to get them in the ballpark and then do final tunes at the track with more boost...

Viking War Hammer

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I hear ya, I like seeing numbers for curiosity sake too !

NOEL MELASA

Cris i do not have a video of that day at the dyno, but i have the dyno papers of the last pull......

crispeed

You do!.

I thought you took a video that night!

NOEL MELASA

not me but i know your friend did take a couple of videos that morning....

crispeed

Which friend?

joeyrotors

i know the car that went that fast i was talking about overall... myboy davidcito from dl race piont built thst car it used to be maikys JAIME LEE buster owns it now .. siguel tunes like 20 cars from aspirated to turbo 13b 2 and or 3 rotors nitrous from race cars to street cars .... i've been to his shop in p.r. when i lived out there .. he builds his motors and tunes them and also drives them number mean nothing look at his mph and 60 footers ... dyno number mean **** !!! its all in ur combination most of these guys run custom prototype turbos not available to the public ... just keep in mind that siguel and buster are millionaires ... its a whole different ball game

RoTaRyBoYz

who needs a 20b when 13b's are doing this!!!

http://www.grs-motorsports.com/noticias/foro/vid/98.wmv

ultimatejay

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Because the 20b can take it to the next level and beyond.

Also, I got to back my boy Rene up on this one. What's the big secret with posting #'s? You can know someone's horsepower but you still don't know how they got it because they're not showing their setup, etc. Besides, like someone posted before horsepower #'s are just a small piece to the puzzle to make a car get down the 1/4 mile the fastest and most consistant.

RoTaRyBoYz

Truth be told that there's a few 13b's making MORE, RELIABLE power than many 20b race cars today.. If I tell you what the rumor mill is putting out when it comes to HP numbers from a few PR 13b's you might think i'm lying..

Whats the big deal about posting out HP #'s from a stand point where few have been? Let me take one educated guess, but there are other reason aswell.....
Why would any smart drag racer or any racer for that matter boast about the power he's making? Why would he risk being penizied by the rules because the other guys in the class crying to NHRA or who ever... We've seen it many times before where NHRA implicated a rule change for some classes during the season because of the cry babies, so this ment that our guys had to spend more money and time to change and develop a new setup around the new rules...
Siguel and the boyz from PR have nothing to prove with a dyno sheet.. They do all their proving on the race track with the back to back 7.1 time slips, unlike other racers out here that claim to be making X about of power but they can't even make it out the waterbox.. What is drag racing? isn't drag racing a sport involving 2 cars and who ever crosses the finish line first wins with your performance being measured by your ET? No where in any book or website did it say that your HP# or dyno sheet determine your performance or outcome on race day...

Jay since you're backing up Rene on this one, ask him if he was making 450WHP on his A/M car if he would come on here and tell the whole world... He know he wouldn't do that because they will rape his *** with weight and other **** because his little rotary has no handicap in the class and power is not an issue for him... If he's smart, he will only use the neccessary power to be competitive in the class and keep his new found power a secret till the rest starts stepping it up..
Drag racing is more than the car or the track, its also physological... I might be making half the power you're making, but could still smoke you on race day because of mind games..

Get with the times fellas, 1100-1200HP 13b's do exist and not because you or your friends never seen or made one it doesn't mean that's its BS or its underweight etc.. Back in the day PR cars was discredited because some folks bitched about them being under weight but in 2006-2007 and even before they showed the world that they could run the same record times on US soil, in a NHRA event will legal weight..

I will say this again, not because john doe and his boyz can't replicated what Siguel, Oso, Gaby and the rest of team PR has done, it doesn't mean that its not possible... The time slips and there for the world to see, the 1.12 60ft & 194 MPH in 3/4 chassis 13b's is real and any educated racer could give an estimated HP # from those time slips..

For the guys that want pics or detailed video, why the heck you fellas don't come to the race track and talk to the racers and tuners to pick their brains and exchange info?? The only reason I can see someone getting upset about a blanket over an engine is because they wanna copy exactly what they saw, because they themselves don't have the skill and knowledge to replicated what a builder/tuner spent 1000's of hours and 100's of thousand's of dollars to achieve...

Im not from PR but I wear a different PR race T-shirt to work everyday with dozens more in the closet, why? because Im proud of these guys for the level in which they've taken the "little engine that could"... I don't have a running race car yet but Im at the track every event, why? because Im not one of those guys that sit behind the computer looking to copy what i saw in a few pics, instead I drive my *** out there and interact and talk to the racers and tuner, I exchange ideas with them and ALL of them have shared useful info with me.. Siguel is not an animal, he don't bite so next event take your *** out there and have a chat with him, and if you're nice you just might get lucky like me and he'll take you under the tent to get a peek of his car..

Whats under the hood of these cars are nothing special;
Crispeed-" every part on those cars can be delivered by UPS"

If you still wanna see what a 1000hp 13b looks like just check out Allen's "got fuel" thread, his setup is whats in most of these cars except the turbo, but even that UPS can deliver
If you still lost and you want more, then call Pica motor import and buy a set of "off the shelf" semi-pp housings from Rafael, built to the same spec's as his 7.19 Rx7, oh and UPS can deliver that too!!!!]

A 800+hp & 500+ft lbs of TQ dyno pull is useless when the drivetrain and small tires can't even hold 3/4 those #'s without breaking..
Dyno #'s don't mean **** if you can't get that power down and light up that sign board with a record number... So guys don't worry about stinking dyno numbers because the only numbers that matter are the ones on the score board at the end of the 1320!!

Jay this post wasn't specifically directed to you or anyone else, Im just an alcholic venting my frustration

crispeed

That still won't help many because those are the ones that think it's all that matters!

So fricking true and many would never know because they never go to the track to get the combo right. They think it's all on a dyno sheet. Sometimes I wonder if they could drive and race their dyno papers!

Vent on brother!!!!

Rum till I die!

Joe13BT

YEAH!!!!! WE ROCK!!!!!! Lol...

mazda1200

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HaHA ...

RoTaRyBoYz

Just look at the top 8.. since when does a 7.57 not put you in the show
Clear your calender boys!!! '08 Pan American July 18th-20th, Atco Raceway will be crazy!!!!!!!
Crispeed, we accepting no excuses for this year PanAms... You must be here!!!!

***Qualifiing Order***

1- Nayelis- 7.193
2- Adriana is Back- 7.29
3- Jerismar- 7.30
4- Sammy- 7.387
5- Yankee- 7.398
6- Gisela- 7.47
7- Maijailin- 7.53
8- Baby Turbo- 7.54

-------Not Qualified--------

9- Men in Black- 7.57
10- Alondra- 7.67
11- Gianerick- 7.791
12- Rico Suave- 7.93
13- Wichito- 8.06
14- Grisseillie- 8.15
15- Lopez Connection- 8.62
16- Pica Motors- N/T

crispeed

That's all the proof you need right there!
Some of the idiots still ask what it takes to fill the bleachers at an import race. Well there it is. Imagine an NHRA/NOPI Modified class fill with those cars. No one here might even qualify!
Then again they prefer to cater too the cry babies with their million dollar sponsered cars that the majority could never dream about building or even wanting to race.
You remember the last time those cars came to E-town and destroyed the modified class? How convienent was it for the NHRA to re-write the rules in favor of the cry babies. That to me was the biggest disgrace on behalf of the NHRA at the time. It was very clear that rule change was not to encourage the group of cars/racers from wanting to compete at anymore events here.

NOEL MELASA

thats completely true and i remember that day at e-town out of 8 car that qualify 7 were from Puerto Rico and after the last qualifing pass all the cry babies ask NHRA to re inspect all the cars from P.R. by the way all pass inspections again.