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Old 02-09-02, 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by Greg
Im gonna try to ask Abel
to join in on this convo Hopefully he will state his 2 cents. That way we can get some opinions from the other side of the fence
Hey Greg!
Abel has always thought that his race played a part in him not getting any major sponsorship like the rest of west coast racers! His point been that he's proven what he's capable of but no one ever took notice.
At least finally for 2002 K&N Engineering is going to help him and his team out!

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Re: Re: Re: very interesting

Originally posted by SPEED_NYC

As far as Tito, I could never consider him a bad guy, did you guys read that issue of turbo where all the racers were saying who thier idols and influences were? Tito gave props to Neil (rottentop) for inspiring him. Neil is another NYC rotary legend. (watch for his tube framed, 13BT Toyata corolla twin cam this year)

So, Chris, Greg, Ito, how old are you guys anyways?
Finally!
Someone who knows Neil (Rottentop)!
What about Charlie (Halfbreed) Lewis!
Good old Fountain blvd. racing legends!

I guess you should remember Tito's 1st gen rx-7 that was powered by the Grand National motor and then later the 300ZX twin turbo motor just before he crashed it! The only 1st gen that looked like a 300zx coming and a rx-7 going!

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See, you guys are old School, I just started getting into this about 5 years. Im only 22 years old. Speed NYC, download AIM and we will talk, maybe you can edumacate me on some of the older racers
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Reading this makes me wish I lived somewhere else, hardly any rotary action going on here
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Re: Untubbed FC runs 8.90@152mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Turbo II RX-7 of Toledo Racing from Carolina, Puerto Rico ran an 8.90 at 152mph last weekend at the Pan American nationals in Puerto Rico! From what I've been told this car is un-tubbed and runs on a 26X10 inch slick!

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Cris. I just got a hold of a very fresh video from that Toledo 8.9 blast. Dude I'M going to talk to Vosko to see if he could work his magic and put it up on the forum so u guys could check it out. I saw the hole Pan American National rematch in P.R. looks like some real good drag racing and FUN!!! Cris let me know when ever your interested in going to drag race in P.R. maybe for the next trip U and I would be ready and could take the trip with the next group of Team USA racers going over to P.R.
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Sad to here that

Originally posted by Felix Wankel
Reading this makes me wish I lived somewhere else, hardly any rotary action going on here
Man over here in the north east we have a real nice history of import drag racing "before" it was popular, especially with rotary powered cars that would take about a good month of writting stories. Since everybody has there own stories of what they experienced. And Cris I say yes to does good old days at Fountain Ave. Drag racing in the streets of NYC back in the late 80's and early 90's was my School of Hard knocks... Alot of history up here...
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Originally posted by Greg
See, you guys are old School, I just started getting into this about 5 years. Im only 22 years old. Speed NYC, download AIM and we will talk, maybe you can edumacate me on some of the older racers
Hey man can I join in?? Been a Puerto Rican and not knowing much of the Ol' school racers is sad, VERY sad!!

Yes, yes I know Am I disgrace to my island
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Re: Re: Untubbed FC runs 8.90@152mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Judge Ito
Cris. I just got a hold of a very fresh video from that Toledo 8.9 blast. Dude I'M going to talk to Vosko to see if he could work his magic and put it up on the forum so u guys could check it out. I saw the hole Pan American National rematch in P.R. looks like some real good drag racing and FUN!!! Cris let me know when ever your interested in going to drag race in P.R. maybe for the next trip U and I would be ready and could take the trip with the next group of Team USA racers going over to P.R.
Can't wait to look at it!
It would really be cool if Toledo could bring his car up here for the WIC event next month!

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Re: Re: Re: Untubbed FC runs 8.90@152mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by crispeed


Can't wait to look at it!
It would really be cool if Toledo could bring his car up here for the WIC event next month!

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he is legal to run quick class right??? I wanna see him take some events this year.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: very interesting

Originally posted by crispeed


Finally!
Someone who knows Neil (Rottentop)!
What about Charlie (Halfbreed) Lewis!
Good old Fountain blvd. racing legends!

I guess you should remember Tito's 1st gen rx-7 that was powered by the Grand National motor and then later the 300ZX twin turbo motor just before he crashed it! The only 1st gen that looked like a 300zx coming and a rx-7 going!

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yeah i remember both versions of that car!! remember the 185MPH written on the side? a friend of mine has toe 300zx-7 on video running at Atco. that car was amazing! the question is, do you remember his VW rabbit? chris, did you used to live in NYC or something??

my friend that has the video had a rotary shop up here at the time and offered to buy the crashed 300zx-7 from Tito, but he cut the car up instead i guess he didn't want anybody else driving his baby. the thing i loved about that car was the big BLITZ sticker across the side, nobody had any idea of what the hell BLITZ was untill like 5 years later.
my friend is now living in Ft. Lauderdale and building a tube framed 13BREW first gen. when i come down to moroso in april, we'll come over and introduce ourselves chris.

damn i miss fountian......

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BTW, rottentop had that tubed corolla at the last few events at e-town last season doing some testing. i hope this is a big year for him!!
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Originally posted by Greg
See, you guys are old School, I just started getting into this about 5 years. Im only 22 years old. Speed NYC, download AIM and we will talk, maybe you can edumacate me on some of the older racers
greg, i dont have AOL, can i still download AIM?
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Originally posted by Greg


By the way I met the owner of the party time cars (He comes to hector shop all the time) He is a really nice guy maybe once he gets the shop finished we can grab a few beers and hangout while I get my ******* CHASSIS WORK DONE !!!!1
ok that sounds cool, i'll buy the beer. BTW, if anybody's interested, I have the video of partytimes last run if i can manage to dig it up mabye i can get vosko to post it!
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OK, one last thing, who is going to WIC? and what hotel is everybody staying at??
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Originally posted by SPEED_NYC
OK, one last thing, who is going to WIC? and what hotel is everybody staying at??
im gonna try and get there this year. I am so glad I didnt go last year
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i was thinking about going to WIC but doesn't seem very likely. if anyone wants anything hosted let me know. just email it to me vosko@optonline.net
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Originally posted by SPEED_NYC


greg, i dont have AOL, can i still download AIM?
Yeah you can, I have earthlink and just went to aol's site and down loaded it.
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Originally posted by vosko
i was thinking about going to WIC but doesn't seem very likely. if anyone wants anything hosted let me know. just email it to me vosko@optonline.net
vosko, any video i have will be on super 8 tape. i have no way of e-mailing it to you. i can ups a copy of the tapes to you....
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Another Toledo FC pic!

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I'm supised no one has said anything about Billy Burnham with the 3 rotor rail. (The guy from Oregon.) He sold it a couple years ago, but he was for a long time one of the fastest guys out there. When he did get a little coverage in National Dragster....they called it a V6... Bill is a realy nice guy, i allways see him down at the track...to bad he sold it. Anyone ever know what happend to the rail? CJ
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I have to agree with all the anger some of us are showing towards the import magazines and import drag racing associations......but it's all about politics and big sponsor $$$$$$$$$ and not so much with racism, like Chris mentioned they seem to be calling the shots with big events.

I still remember last IDRC event @ Maplegrove my car was exactly 100lbs heavier...WTF !!! where that weight come from???? Funny thing is that many of the California cars were breaking records back to back !!!
and I bet some were under their weight limit.

As far as Tito(Eddie Belo)...his Porsche was defenitely a menace in the streets, mainly against bikes !!!! 1/4 mile, 1 mile or whatever.....
I spoke to him @ E-town on a wed night before it closed for the winter and he mentioned his "race" car was somewhere in Florida and he was planning on going there for measurements or just pick up the tube chassis and finish it himself. He was there testing a Buick GN with Dennis Marquis(yellow 20B FD) which should also be out for 2002 season. Forgot to ask if he had a shop.

Hey SPEED_NYC, do you remember when Stanley ripped Vinny a new ******* at a main event ??? Vinny lost alot respect because of his pit crew actions. They almost beat this guy up for going past the rope to look at the engine bay !!!!

I give PEPE LOCO mad props....he likes to brag alot but that's ok because he could afford to. He's drives his car like it's not his !!! probably the reason he did so well in 2001 and nice that he did get some recognition.

I do remember the 3 rotor rail car @ Atco....how fast did it go?
I also witnesses Partytime's last run :-(

Hopefully the 1st import car in the 6's or 200mph+ will be a rotary powered car regardless who's.....

John
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Originally posted by pp13bnos
I'm supised no one has said anything about Billy Burnham with the 3 rotor rail. (The guy from Oregon.) He sold it a couple years ago, but he was for a long time one of the fastest guys out there. When he did get a little coverage in National Dragster....they called it a V6... Bill is a realy nice guy, i allways see him down at the track...to bad he sold it. Anyone ever know what happend to the rail? CJ
CJ, I did mention the 3 rotor rail, in my second post. wasn't it campaigned by World Racing or something? I remember thinking that that was gonna be the future of import drag racing. (i still do). i called the guy back when the rail was for sale on the partstrader to ask why he was selling. i think he said it was a $$$ issue

Originally posted by SPEED_NYC


dont you remember 'partytime', the tube ramed turbo II? they were from your neck of the woods too, philly i think. what about the supercharged 20B rail from world racing in oregon? (that car was WAAAY ahead of it's time. i'm willing to bet that the first 5 sec run by an import is gonna be done with a forced induction rotary powered rail!)


John D, I do remember seeing Stanley rip vinny on more than one ocasion. vinny is just a sore looser and poor sportsman. i can remember hanging out at paisleys shop back when he was first stripping the white car that weould become his race car, he called vinny on the phone and asked him if he could BORROW a blown motor for a day or 2 to take some measurements before welding up a motor plate. vinny said, no we dont have any motors for you guys with a half laughing voice. this was when vinny was having LOTS of motor problems and blowing motors left and right, WTF?? i think he was just scared of the competition. he has a rep ijn the industry of being an *******, and i'm sure that has hurt his sponsorship situation....

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I'm sorry...i was skim reading most of it. It was owned/run by Bill at Auto World. A smaller shop in north Portland. I wish he would of put a transmition behind the car. It was only a 2spd powerglide! CJ
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It's funny that you guys mentioned Vinny's un-sportmanship qualities!
I remember some time back at an event I believe it was one of NIRA's first down here when a certain black FD unleashed a fresh can of whoop *** on him in the finals. The guy went crazy wanting to fight with everyone even doubting the officals and claiming the time clocks were wrong! What a sore looser!

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Originally posted by pp13bnos
I'm sorry...i was skim reading most of it. It was owned/run by Bill at Auto World. A smaller shop in north Portland. I wish he would of put a transmition behind the car. It was only a 2spd powerglide! CJ
Yeh!
And a huge blower or better yet a couple of turbos!

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