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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Transverse mounted rotary

Any reason why I couldn't run a 12A mounted to a transverse transaxle (Thats a whole lotta trans)? I'm looking mainly for oil starvation problems. I'm trying to decide which kit (Well home-built actually) car I want to build. I'd really like to go with a rotary, but I love the idea of a mid-engined car. I could mate it too a VW transaxle but that would make the entire assembly rather longer that I'd like. If anyone has any theories on this one I'd like to hear them.
I may just take the easier route and build a front-engined car, but I seem to be cursed with a life-long case of indecision and I fear I won't really know what I'm building until it comes time to start cutting.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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It can be done. I have not seen a FWD car but I used to race with a guy that put a 13b in an old Porsche 914. It was transversely mounted. But space was an issue and if I remember correctly the motor actualy sat about 15 deg. from being truly trans. mounted.

I have posted to a local forum where sombody might remember a name or have a photo of it. I will post back if I find any more information.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CarmonColvin
It can be done. I have not seen a FWD car but I used to race with a guy that put a 13b in an old Porsche 914. It was transversely mounted. But space was an issue and if I remember correctly the motor actualy sat about 15 deg. from being truly trans. mounted.

I have posted to a local forum where sombody might remember a name or have a photo of it. I will post back if I find any more information.
I doubt that the engine was transverse mounted. The 914 uses a transmission that is mounted front to rear - just like our cars. It's a transaxle meaning that the transmission and axles are all one unit. Most rotary conversions in the 914 use an adapter to mate the rotary engine to the stock 914 transmission. I'm putting a 20b in my car and have done my research. The only way that he would have an engine transversely mounted in the 914 would be if he had a different transmission and that I highly doubt was done because the cost and complexity would be too much for most people when there is a perfectly logical solution by going with the adapter and stock Porsche transmission.

P.S. The 914 is a mid engine car in that the engine and transmission sit behind the driver. Is it possible you have the wrong Porsche in mind?
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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check this link its being done before
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=12a+323
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by soloracer951
I doubt that the engine was transverse mounted. The 914 uses a transmission that is mounted front to rear - just like our cars. It's a transaxle meaning that the transmission and axles are all one unit. Most rotary conversions in the 914 use an adapter to mate the rotary engine to the stock 914 transmission. I'm putting a 20b in my car and have done my research. The only way that he would have an engine transversely mounted in the 914 would be if he had a different transmission and that I highly doubt was done because the cost and complexity would be too much for most people when there is a perfectly logical solution by going with the adapter and stock Porsche transmission.

P.S. The 914 is a mid engine car in that the engine and transmission sit behind the driver. Is it possible you have the wrong Porsche in mind?
I am very certain it was a 914.

You have cast doubt in my mind so now I am only 80% sure it was transversely mounted. I have got the guys name from the local SCCA forum so now I am trying to contact him directly. I will press for more information.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Here is what my 914 looks like. It's got a wide body kit on it but at least will give you the basic shape.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Here is a link to a rotary powered 914. It uses the stock north/south layout.

http://web2.airmail.net/atl/Rotary.html
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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On a related note, can you bolt a 12A to a Miata tranny? Miata's share an engine with the 90-99 Protege, which means I could use a Protege transaxle without any sort of adaptor if it all lined up.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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http://www.nocamzmotorsport.co.nz/Andrew323-wagon.htm
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I've seen that, only problem is they don't seem to go into any detail. I'm gonna try calling them and asking how it was done. Also it looks like they didn't need and adaptor so maybe some stock Mazda bell-housing will work.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Random funny thought... if a 12A can be bolted to a 323 transaxle... bolt it to a 323GTX. How neat would that be?
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 03:14 AM
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very neet

My friend and i want to drop one of my motor's into one of his dsm's just for fun
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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that engine isnt transversly mounted....its just mounted in the rear and facing towards the back of the car
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Can somebody help me with the mounting bolt holes for 13b? Thanks
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Attached Thumbnails Transverse mounted rotary-156-5619_img.jpg  
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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There are even Honda Del Sols (Civic CRX) with a rotary engine
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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found them

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Civic
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Anyone have some links or more information on the rotary civic.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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it's extremely green.
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From memory it had a toyota box
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