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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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T-78 RX-7 vs. Venom 500 Viper GTS

What do you think the outcome would be between these two cars?

The RX-7 puts down 440 rwhp @ 17 psi. The Viper has ran a best of 7.2x @ 93 mph in the 1/8 mile. I don't have a time on the RX-7. We will be going from a 20-40 mph roll. The 7 will be on BFG drag radials and the Viper will be on road race slicks. The Viper has intake, headers, exhaust and gear (3.55).

Who will win?
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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The seven!
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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Post a vid of the race.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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FWIW though my roommates Miata went throught the traps in the 8th at 7.1@102. Putting down around 390RWHP or so and weighs 2430 with him in it. You have more power and I don't know how heavy that seven is. If it isn't loaded down with useless crap it will win in that race.

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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Geez...as much as I love the 7..I'd have to give this one to the Viper. Venom Vipers are bad dudes..
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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what does the viper put down at the wheels??? 440 rwhp!!! thats a low 6 in 1/8.. the viper does have a small chance. i wouldnt race him for money becuase i was in a viper forum and one had N2o and was putting down like 700 rwhp and 850 ft lbs of torqe.. I have seen that n2o is a commen mod for vipers. bust his *** though. Im feeling the 7. if you loose you suck!! just kidn
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by 93redFD
what does the viper put down at the wheels??? 440 rwhp!!! thats a low 6 in 1/8.. the viper does have a small chance. i wouldnt race him for money becuase i was in a viper forum and one had N2o and was putting down like 700 rwhp and 850 ft lbs of torqe.. I have seen that n2o is a commen mod for vipers. bust his *** though. Im feeling the 7. if you loose you suck!! just kidn
You do realize a low 6 in the 1/8 is a low 10 in the 1/4... and that sure as hell isnt gonna happen with 440 at the wheels.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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viper venoms (i think), along with the lingenfelter corvettes, run 9.9x in the 1/4.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 06:55 PM
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viper venoms (i think), along with the lingenfelter corvettes, run 9.9x in the 1/4.
They do different levels of mods, you can't make a broad statement like that.

The Viper is going to have lots more torque than the 7, but the 7 should have a good bit of weight advantage. I'd say the 500 venom would take the lead low down but the 7 could catch up in the higher speeds. All depends on how well the driver's know their cars.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Re: T-78 RX-7 vs. Venom 500 Viper GTS

Originally posted by Roy Johnson Jr

The RX-7 puts down 440 rwhp @ 17 psi. The Viper has ran a best of 7.2x @ 93 mph in the 1/8 mile.
Who will win?
BDC's 420RWHP 2nd gen runs 7.6 @ 96mph in the 1/8 so it's killing the viper in the top end, and losing in the lanch and bottom end... a top end roll would kill it, plus you got 20 more HP

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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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They do different levels of mods, you can't make a broad statement like that.

The Viper is going to have lots more torque than the 7, but the 7 should have a good bit of weight advantage. I'd say the 500 venom would take the lead low down but the 7 could catch up in the higher speeds. All depends on how well the driver's know their cars.
Venoms 800HP twin turbo Viper runs the high 9s.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 07:42 AM
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I agree the Viper because of mamouth torque will take you at the start, but you should start to catch him because of the shorter powerband (read:he'll run out of revs) that he has. It's gonna be really close to call though I really like the 7 more (Viper being my #3 car of all time), but I'd need more specs to tell. How about that video?!?
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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who cares about specs.. did you guys race yet?
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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Let us know what happens right away. I hope you win!

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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Good luck man...just remember practice makes perfect, either of you could have a Banzai RX7 (damn the McLaren F1 ), and not have enough practice actually racing and still lose.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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They do different levels of mods, you can't make a broad statement like that.
Er, Yes I can. Take a stock C5, send it to Lingenfelter, and you can get a high-9s Corvette. It's a package that Lingenfelter sells, not just a variety of mods one can do. The same goes for Hennessey - as somebody already mentioned. You can send your viper off and have it returned in high-9 form, every time.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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THE RESULTS

This is a post by the owner of the Viper. I'm quoting it because I don't feel like typing all of it. I was at 17 psi on BFGs. Viper was on road race slicks with the Venom 500 package going from a 40 mph roll:

First race: When we let out the Viper was two cars ahead and it was obvious things weren't going to change much if it continued. Viper was still in forth gear. I believe Roy thinks the Viper left a little soon. We didn't discuss this part but I think: Roy started to jump early and then had to hesitate to be fair and it cost him. Another words I think the Viper was on time at go and the little bobble at the start cost Roy some time and maybe some boost. Roy thinks the Viper got a little jump on that one. When I say he started to jump early.....it was just one of those things....you gotta be ready, it wasn't a cheat jump or he would have not done the double take, he would have kept going. Hard to tell but that start could have been better. The second run I think Roy got the jump but not because he went early, maybe the Viper slept. Whatever, the rx7 was almost...maybe a whole car ahead very quickly. It stayed like that through second and third, then in forth and the very beginning of fifth the Viper had pulled back up to the back of the rx7's front fender and was still pulling when Roy let out. I really wish it had gone farther because before fifth was done the Viper would have pulled ahead.
In Roy's defense it was a location he was not used to and the protection of the guard rail/wall had past by and there was traffic to the left of the painted area at the end of the wall. I would have stayed in it if I had been in his lane but I know the traffic flow much better at that spot. Roy will give his take but this is pretty close. Both were from a 40 roll.
I hesitantly agreed to one win for the rx7 and one win for the Viper, but I did agree. Boils down to: Both cars are fast and damn close. A totally stock Viper would get spanked by at least three cars. A totally stock rx7 would get spanked by....never mind
We were going to do round three, we exited this road and at the end of the exit ramp there was a stop light and when turning left to cross the overpass to re enter some old man in a 95ish firebird runs the red light and side swipes the Viper in front of the rear tire on the quarter and door. Finally got him to pull over and it looks like there are no dents or dings, only whiteish looking scrapes and residue. Some of it rubbed off with spit and thumb. I believe they will all buff out without going to primer. Close call !!!
I guess now we'll have to let him put on some NOS and I'll install my 3 bar map sensor!

It was a cool run and the Viper runs strong. I was proud of 'lil 'ol red! It impressed a lot of people.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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Nice run, immpressive at only 17psi dude.
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