popeye

guys, i"m planning to get a rx7 fd 92-93'. wanna know the potential of the standard engine, like how to modify, costs, reliability, HPs that can be expected and where get the parts. whats a 20b and 13b? i know 13b has 2 rotors & 20b has 3 rotors, does the displacement increase by 50%? can a 13b be upgraded to a 20b or i'd have to buy a 20b engine separately. heard the 20b is for automatics only. can it be manualised?

my friends are asking me to consider either Evo 4-6, Supras 2JZ 6 speed manual turbo, and even a WRX STI.
what advantages does a FD has over the other cars mentioned above. i'm totally fresh to this rotary stuff.
i'm currently driving a honda itr w/b20b full race with abt 200+whp. sick of getting killed by turbo cars. well they say if u cant beat them, join them. but i wanna be among the fastest, if not the fastest.

looking for some enlightening from experts.

tks.

93redFD

buy a civic si!!!

popeye

WTF!!!!

93redFD

you know,,,, the ones that have dush vtech on the valve cover!! you got to know what Im talking about man.

peejay

i do not understand.

rotary (a type of engine) vs. evo/supra/wrx sti (specific models of cars).


hmm why not ask which is better, a deisel or a '92 accord.

milkman2k52

If i were you, I'd get a damn R32 GTR. Definately a dope ride. And plus, all us back here in the states would be envious

protlewski

well this is bad place to come and say you got honda man.

everyone in here likes to make fun of hondas. I do to but your asking a legit question so I guess I'll give you an answer.

whats a 20b and 13b?
the 13B is the engine that all rx-7's have used since 1986 and like the honda motors it comes in a few variations. The main ones are 13B 13B-T 13B-t213B-re 13B-rew. Now the only thing that your gonna worry about with the '93 is the 13B-REW That is a sequential twin turbo engine that puts out around 227 rwhp stock.
This is the hardest engine to work on and the most unreliable out of all the rotarys in the U.S. ( Its because of those turbos) It is very easy to modify. I am not an expert on the 3rd gen( also called FD for short) but you should be able to get around 300 with just bolt ons. But one major thing to keep in mind if you do buy one is when you get it replace the vacume lines those go bad and kills your power. The reason why is because they are crappy. Replace them with some nice silicone ones also there is literly half a million vacume lines too. also the first mod u should make is probly the exhaust. Get alot of that killer heat away from the turbos.

The 20B-rew was a engine that was offered in the 1992-94 mazda cosmo. It was only sold in japan and aussie. The cars new cost some where around 80K because they were high-class luxo cars. They didnt sell all too well so they stopped making them and the engines are highly prized because they 3-rotors and can easily make 450 with relativly few mods and they have some godly torque! 2 rotors are known as the torqueless wonders right the 3-rotors most of the time make more torque than Hp. But the conversion is expensive and very difficult. Its something like 350 hours of labor to finish the conversion. Check out the 20B forum, its thru rotary proformance forum.

My advice to you is to reserch more on this stuff before you buy anything rotary cause if you have a problem that you don't know whats going on your gonna hate the car.

popeye

yeah man, thanks protlewski. actually, my main concern is which is faster? example...if i were to dig out 40k(my country's currency of course which is USD1=RM3.8) to mod a car, which would be faster? the rotary? evo? supra? or the wrx sti?
i'm sick of NA cars, i wanna go FI..........and i wanna know the potential.........well i dig rotary bcos of the sexy fd curves that the chicks will definately drool over he he he..... advices please..........and please guys.......dont be cruel to me.......i'm in a dilemma...

popeye

and u know anybody who's good in rotaries in my country, Malaysia?

Gearhead

iTrader: (1)

Faster how? Straight line or do they have corners in Malaysia?

PaulC

The RX7 or the Supra in my opinion. But I would say the FD cause I think they are more fun to drive.

Ryde _Or_Die

Ya the evo and wrx are cool I guess for their class but aren't in the same class as the FD or MKIV. If your $40,000= $12,000USD(Or so) then you will have to get an FD because Supras cost more like $20,000USD.

93redFD

nobody likes the civic si??

protlewski

civcis=succubus
succubus=satans bitch!
In other words civics suck a hard load of hamster *****.

93redFD

You guys take **** so serious. I was J/K. **** HONDAS!!! I would drive a s2000 though..

rerx7

If I were you I would get a R34 or EVO7 cause I doubt there are many Rotary Specialist in Asia besides Japan.
I don't know about the streets of Malaysia but for the streets of HK, I wouldn't even drive.

popeye

well, we do have 1/4 mile stretches here. so which is faster in 1/4 mile? the (US12,000) is for modifications, not the car.

kwikrx7

If you put $12K in a Supra it would be much faster than a FD simply because you don't have to do much to a Supra to get 400 rwhp out of it. The FD costs on average of $5-12K less than a Supra so you have to consider that also. I wouldn't even consider a FD unless you have a rotary mechanic and tuner around you. There are endless possibilities with both the MKIV and FD and money spent on both the car and mods will be pretty much even with acceleration since the FD costs much less.

Flamin' NOS

Supras are insanely easy and cheap to get to the 400 rwhp mark. But after that, the costs rise exponentially. You see supras in magazines with 950 rwhp and only run a 9 flat. You give an rx7 that much power and you will run mid 7's or so. RX7's have the advantage of weighing, what, 500 lbs less? With 12000 dumped into a rex, that's a fully built street ported motor with a T51 and a haltech... at least 500 rwhp. A supra will put out more power, but will be offset by the fact that it's a landmonster. It takes a lot of cash to hit 10's in a supdawg... lot more than in a rex.
steve