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Old 01-14-05, 06:41 AM
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Damn buddy. You're keeping busy. Everytime I'm off the forums for a while you end up buying another shop. I swear one day I'm going to turn to CNN and hear that Scalliwag Enterprises has doubled it's share once again. Good luck with the move. I'm sure you'll enjoy the space and freedom of the new shop, if you start to doubt this, just think back to the days of moving everything out of your garage to get to one tool.

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Old 01-14-05, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SnowmanSteiner
Damn buddy. You're keeping busy. Everytime I'm off the forums for a while you end up buying another shop. I swear one day I'm going to turn to CNN and hear that Scalliwag Enterprises has doubled it's share once again. Good luck with the move. I'm sure you'll enjoy the space and freedom of the new shop, if you start to doubt this, just think back to the days of moving everything out of your garage to get to one tool.

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Haha! I needed a good laugh this morning and you delivered! With David selling his house and only needing a place to stay two nights a week he can pay towards the additional leasing cost for the time being. We are using most of the office as his living quarters and it is going to be one really nice place. Especially when we build the upstairs and put windows up there overlooking the runway.
All the neighbors out there are pretty well off so that is a big plus.

David has some ideas I won't go into as far as business that if those work out it will really be exciting and it will be a full time business. We are staying out of the direct car upgrade and repair work though. But some of the services will be in support of shops.
One thing that is certain is that there are always changes and ideas and changes to ideas constantly shuffling the overall gameplan. It certainly keeps me on my toes. Hell Steiner by the time you get done with your engineering degree we may even have a fulltime job for ya Be sure to learn how to convert designs to CNC ready programs and I can *almost* assure you that will be the case.
*HINT* Start looking into CNC plasma table work/ Burney head CNC mill controller is yet to be determined.
Old 01-14-05, 09:17 AM
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HA!! I guess David is moving around a lot. From selling his home to sleeping in the old shop, to sleeping in the new shop. Whatever your final goal for business is, I'm sure your ideas, innovations, and ingenuity will help boost your sucess. I appreciate the offer, and will very much like to take you up on it when the time comes. I made a few friends at auto shops this break, and am going to start digging around at the machine shops when I'm back home as well to see if I can't either intern, get a part time job, or just stand around and get tips from people. You'll enjoy this; a friend of mine just got done building a gs-x stroker motor. He is using a mustang 75mm throttle body. The rod through the TB broke right where an allen head screw goes through last Saturday night. So we had to take the TB over to my friend's house and weld it back up. Trey, who did the welding, works as a welder, we weren't sure of the material of the rod, but the welder was only a 110, so it was a very interesting time watching him go at it such a tiny little welder.

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Old 01-14-05, 09:45 AM
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Well David has yet to spend a night in the shop yet. After doing the math for the initial cost of building any suitable living quarters there it did not seem practical at the current shop. We only have a 10'x10' office there so everything would have to be built out.
There have been some issues in the past with some low-lifes there like when David's vert got broke into and his radio stolen.
Then this hangar came up out of the blue and after weighing things out 9000sf @ 2k or 300sf @ 1k, an 800sf office ready to live in or a 100sf office barely big enough for an office , upscale neighbors or ones that break in cars, and three times the space at twice the cost. Easy to see why this is looking much more attractive.
To build a nice upper level space at the current shop so that it would not interfere with our work space would be well over 3k which is about the same move in cost for the new shop.
But I also think when you factor in the time for me to hang I-beams etc. the costs of staying where we are is even greater. Just because I can do something does not mean I want to Beam work sucks.
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Damn. Sounds like you guys are getting a good deal for the new place compared to the old. So you're going to convert the office space to David's living space? Hey at least now you want have to hang beams!!! The only construction work I've ever done is helping my father install skylights into our living room, and dining room, and helping to build a shed behind our house to store tools etc in. The shed was fun cause we designed it. But somehow I get the feeling that the next time I visit Banzai he's gonna put me to work on the shop. But that's fine because I will hopefully be using a lot of his equipment this summer as well. Check your pms when you get a chance. Take care.

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Not the entire office, but most of it. In the pic where the window is at is where the office area will be. I think it is 12x14 and is also where the kitchen/fridge area is. That works out perfect because I will be eating his groceries on the 5 days he is out The rest of the area would be his "crib" It is pretty nice like it is but we could take our time and make a really nice upper level.
For now I only need a desk, computer and printer but if things go well then there is a good chance we will want more room for office use. There is one small room in the back that would be perfect for porting, engine assembly, throttle body modding, etc. I would like to have a vac system outside that plumbed into the room to keep the noise down and use it for grinding dust control while porting. Have a nice stereo system with some top of the line wireless headphones so you could have a very nice work environment. A nice comfy chair and an adjustable positioning system to hold the work while you port.
Hell I figure that I can setup a high end sound card in a PC and have Skype loaded on it so we could have some IP telephony going as an intercom so at least someone can get whoever was porting's attention when they zone out Plus checking email and all while you gave your hands a rest from grinding could be productive as well.

Anyone that has ever done any porting has got to like that


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Old 01-14-05, 11:38 AM
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where are the bar tables going? stripper poles? you know that aviators like getting soused before going up, you'll make a fortune.

j/k looks good man, good luck
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Well we will definately have a bar but I can't have the strippers or my 20 years of marriage would come to a screeching and over the cliff wreck There are people here that can attest that my one night a week out at a public bar is really pushing the envelope sometimes. At least if I start to think about doing something dumb I would talk myself out of it on the way to the car. You have to have that buffer time to keep you straight.
If it is as quick pulling them off one pole and putting them on anoth.... well you get the idea
Hell Hans you can come up and help use move!
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**** if you need some help give me a holla some time
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Why are my ears red, Mike?

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Old 01-14-05, 04:41 PM
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Why are my ears red, Mike?

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I don't know what you are talking about bro? You know I am always nice and polite to the ladies right? :sayyes:

Hey dude be on IM later I have to chat with ya
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Now that would be one nice working environment. I feel like a kid in a candy store right now. I just bought a humidor and a hygrometer. The humidor is made out of an old Victor Sinclair Cigar box, but it's cedar lined, with cedar trays. It's cheaply made into one, but I am going to work it up. I'm researching right now on the best way to seal the box, I may add some marble to the sides to give it a little weight. But my original idea was to add a groove to the top of the box, where the lid meets, and place a rubber seal in there. Since it already has a clasp on the front I just need to ensure that the lid is level all the way accross and adjust the clasp a little so that it will ensure an air tight seal. I want to stay away from using any type of glue internally, because I think over time the glue might effect the taste of the cigars. I bought it at a tobacco store obviously, but the guy who sold it to me, didn't realize that in the bottom, where he was looking, there was one slot that was boxed off that has a long peice of Oasis in it. You know the stuff Flourists use at the bottom of vases to hold water. He didn't realize this so he gave me a cheap sponge type humidor for free, so I can use that for travelling needs. For now I'm just going to soak the Oasis in some distilled water. I'm cheaply calibrating the hygrometer with a soaked towel. Then I'll check the humidity in the box, adjust accordingly place my cigars in and then properly calibrate the hygrometer over night. Then tomorrow I'll get some propylene glycol to put in the oasis as well. I'm so excited. Once I'm done calibrating the hygrometer I'm going outside for a smoke. I just have to figure out which 'gar to pick.

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Cigars? They only taste good when I'm drunk and trying to find me a little Lewinsky to fire up
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HA!!!!! ahhhh, I love em. My three closest freinds and I started a tradition of going down to the Battery in Charleston at the end of every break to buy good cigars and paint the town. I just finally got off my butt to get things rolling for a good humidor. Whenever I get down your way, I'll bring a few good cigars and see how you like em.

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Old 01-21-05, 05:53 PM
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OK guys,

Scally just sent off my rotor housings to JHB Performance for resurfacing. Wish me luck and keep your eyes out in this thread for updates on how this process goes!

I would love to try out some of their other coatings- especially rotor thermal barrier, but we will see what I can afford when the critical to running stuff has been taken care of 1st.

I am trying out some different porting so I know I won't want side housing coating untill I know my porting idea works.

Those JHB guys have a GREAT idea about doweling the front housing to front cover o-ring land so that the oil pressure cannot bypass the o-ring. When my side housings get back from RB I am going to try to mill the front housing/front cover for a dowel. If I F&%$ it up, I can block off the passage as I use the oil pump galley directly to feed my oil cooler, just gotta bypass a small volume of oil to the front cover for whatever else requires it (CAS gear? OMP?).
Old 01-30-05, 04:10 AM
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Damn man I just read the entire thread from start to finish and I don't even know 90% of the stuff you guys are talking about BUT! I wish you luck on your progress it was quite an interesting read and i'll be checking for updates. Good luck and happy rotoring.
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get moved in yet, scalli?

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Nope. There is some foot dragging but nothing David and I have control over.
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well let me know if you need a truck and a helping hand when you guys do, Id love to help out. plus if yer interested I might get ya to punch out a housing or two for some of them tube ports =) for a lil beerpensation... hope you like Shiner Bock...casue if not you'll make me run to the store for a beer run

PS I wanna see the gun in action in person...
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Hey Scalliwag,

Nice project you got going on. Any idea on when we can expect a housing to be tested. Really interested in this.
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BLUE TII has a set of housings with the guys in Canada. I am not sure where they are at on them but hopefully he can give us and update.
I still have too many irons in the fire and have been building pports and 20b eshaft splitter and pretty much covered up with the Ebay and forum sales.
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Dont give up just cause of the other guys on this, dude. I'm still holdin out for ya.

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I haven't given up. From all my reading and if you go way back to where I talked to the prof at Stanford I think the Armacor is better suited than the cermet or ceramic coatings for this.
Those are not rated for what the Armacor is. Neither would work in a coal crusher, slurries or drill pipe collars.
But they certainly have the best thing going right now and they have a tangible service to show for it. I am still running on gut feelings and advice. But when the advice comes from a prof that has written and co-written over 40 books that is a pretty decent source for advice.

Ian (BLUE TII) has two housings that other than the frictional surface still look new. You could not find a better set of "bad" housings. They are the epitomy of what drove me this far. A new housing with surface damage from a broke seal just makes my stomach not up to think about
I am very anxious to hear the results.

But I do think that the ideal material has yet to be tried.
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You know you have a potential customer here as well. Once I get home this summer and pull the rotors and irons out and get the n/a housings from banzai and port them, they will be in need of a nice coating.

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well, mines together, but when you get the process all straightened out, its coming apart for some nice slippery coating!

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