Resurfacing rotor housings
11-09-04, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Scalliwag
If any one thing ever really takes off and makes some money to pay for bringing other ideas to fruition I can assure you guys that there are at least 3 "things" that will follow that will give this resurfacing idea a damn good run for the money.
Two of them are not a matter of if they would work but money to get them to production. All are related to rotaries and all will make them both faster and stronger.
Two of them are not a matter of if they would work but money to get them to production. All are related to rotaries and all will make them both faster and stronger.
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vid looks good btw
11-09-04, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hans
hey scalliwag, will you pm me your email addy I got a few ideas of my own I'd like to bounce off of yoy to see what you think.
Ryan
vid looks good btw
Ryan
vid looks good btw
Last night David and I shut the lights off in the shop and fired it up.
It was like the 4th of July
11-10-04, 12:37 AM
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Every time Scalli talks about a new idea I get excited. No not like that you perv. Seriously though, sometimes I wish I could get inside your head just to see how things work and how you go about solving and working through problems. Amazing.
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11-10-04, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SnowmanSteiner
Every time Scalli talks about a new idea I get excited. No not like that you perv. Seriously though, sometimes I wish I could get inside your head just to see how things work and how you go about solving and working through problems. Amazing.
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So you won't find much there I'm afraid 
11-10-04, 06:39 PM
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Okay guys I got home today and there was something besides my 4 ladies and dog waiting for me 
Hewy was right that the box was damaged but the spool and wire were not harmed at all. I still can't believe he gave that to me an d paid the shipping. That is an expensive roll of wire if you bought it.
Right off the bat I had to get it open and feel the wire. For you MIG welders out there that have welded with big wire (like 1/16" diameter) you know that hard wire that big is pretty stiff ****. Fluxcore bends easier and it feels much closer to this wire. But it still feels a lot different. It almost feels almost like a bread wrapper. It feels almost like plastic weedeater line.
So it will be interesting to light this stuff up. I am not going to the shop tonight. Hopefully my rebuild kit for the compressor come in tomorrow.
Hewy was right that the box was damaged but the spool and wire were not harmed at all. I still can't believe he gave that to me an d paid the shipping. That is an expensive roll of wire if you bought it.
Right off the bat I had to get it open and feel the wire. For you MIG welders out there that have welded with big wire (like 1/16" diameter) you know that hard wire that big is pretty stiff ****. Fluxcore bends easier and it feels much closer to this wire. But it still feels a lot different. It almost feels almost like a bread wrapper. It feels almost like plastic weedeater line.
So it will be interesting to light this stuff up. I am not going to the shop tonight. Hopefully my rebuild kit for the compressor come in tomorrow.
11-11-04, 10:41 AM
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hey scalli
you lucky dog, you better send that man a christmas card ;p
weedeater line huh, shouldn't be all that hard to push through, althought I have a feeling if you arent clearance correctly you are going to see a lot of the coating scrape off; like on my mig that a friend borrowed and cranked down the wire feed roller and it peeled off the copper coating on the wire it was so tight, but as he said he stopped it from slipping
I have a Q what amprage are you running the tungstens at?
also what kind of air pressure are you using? man your making me jealous, How in the world do you juggle your hobby with your wife, come on I gotta find out.
you lucky dog, you better send that man a christmas card ;p
weedeater line huh, shouldn't be all that hard to push through, althought I have a feeling if you arent clearance correctly you are going to see a lot of the coating scrape off; like on my mig that a friend borrowed and cranked down the wire feed roller and it peeled off the copper coating on the wire it was so tight, but as he said he stopped it from slipping
I have a Q what amprage are you running the tungstens at?
also what kind of air pressure are you using? man your making me jealous, How in the world do you juggle your hobby with your wife, come on I gotta find out.
11-11-04, 12:45 PM
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Haha! People are funny as hell about stuff. They can't figure out by looking that there is a reason you can adjust roller tension otherwise it would be a one position locking mechanism.
Hewy called me this morning and we had a great conversation. He told me that the outer shield wire is stainless and the inned is powder (hence fluxcore) but it really isn't a true fluxcore in the sense us welders think of. Fluxcore wire in welding just creates a layer of slag to protect the weld from air and fugg'n up the weld.
Inside this wire are all the alloys on powdered form. You probably figured that out but I figured I would finish out what is going on.
My compressor kit gets here tomorrow so tomorrow evening I will be able to get after this. Hewy wants me to send him test pieces 2"x3"x 1/4" in mild steel. So I am going to spray 6" long lengths of 2" flat (1/4") and then cut them in half. I will finish one side and leave the other just sprayed and left alone. I just have to make sure to mark the samples so I can keep up with them.
So it will be a busy weekend. eBay orders are kind of high and a few forums sales so those take precedence. But I will make sure to get those out of the way as quickly as possible and work this in.
otherwise it would be a one position locking mechanism. Hewy called me this morning and we had a great conversation. He told me that the outer shield wire is stainless and the inned is powder (hence fluxcore) but it really isn't a true fluxcore in the sense us welders think of. Fluxcore wire in welding just creates a layer of slag to protect the weld from air and fugg'n up the weld.
Inside this wire are all the alloys on powdered form. You probably figured that out but I figured I would finish out what is going on.
My compressor kit gets here tomorrow so tomorrow evening I will be able to get after this. Hewy wants me to send him test pieces 2"x3"x 1/4" in mild steel. So I am going to spray 6" long lengths of 2" flat (1/4") and then cut them in half. I will finish one side and leave the other just sprayed and left alone. I just have to make sure to mark the samples so I can keep up with them.
So it will be a busy weekend. eBay orders are kind of high and a few forums sales so those take precedence. But I will make sure to get those out of the way as quickly as possible and work this in.
11-11-04, 12:49 PM
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Wow this is starting to move along. I can't wait to see what the final coat looks like and even more when Hewy gets the hardness level. Speaking of things that are cool, look what is parked across the street from my apartment right now:
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11-11-04, 01:09 PM
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Before he takes off you should get a couple of big trash bags stuff with paper and hang it off the back! Then get a picture of that!!! You would have one helluva good story
11-11-04, 01:24 PM
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I was actually considering grabbing the tarp out of my truck and throwing it on there. If I see anyone that looks like they work with it I might see if I can drive it, then I'll bring the video camera.
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11-11-04, 04:14 PM
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scalli what exactly do you mean by powder inside? do you have to crimp the ends if you cut it? (to keep all the powder from spilling out) or is it not exactly powder, but a little more solid? i know in mig wire its just the glassy slag in there that melts when you weld... unless you do a tru mig with shielding gas... which is what i need to buy next time im not broke and learn to use... i wanna be able to cleanly weld aluminum....
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hahaha
scalli what exactly do you mean by powder inside? do you have to crimp the ends if you cut it? (to keep all the powder from spilling out) or is it not exactly powder, but a little more solid? i know in mig wire its just the glassy slag in there that melts when you weld... unless you do a tru mig with shielding gas... which is what i need to buy next time im not broke and learn to use... i wanna be able to cleanly weld aluminum....
pat
11-11-04, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by patman
Wal*Mart: Your source for giant oversized ********!
hahaha
scalli what exactly do you mean by powder inside? do you have to crimp the ends if you cut it? (to keep all the powder from spilling out) or is it not exactly powder, but a little more solid? i know in mig wire its just the glassy slag in there that melts when you weld... unless you do a tru mig with shielding gas... which is what i need to buy next time im not broke and learn to use... i wanna be able to cleanly weld aluminum....
pat
hahaha
scalli what exactly do you mean by powder inside? do you have to crimp the ends if you cut it? (to keep all the powder from spilling out) or is it not exactly powder, but a little more solid? i know in mig wire its just the glassy slag in there that melts when you weld... unless you do a tru mig with shielding gas... which is what i need to buy next time im not broke and learn to use... i wanna be able to cleanly weld aluminum....
pat
On fluxcore a trick I always did was took a hacksaw and made a angled cut or two on the spool and pulled the wire into the cut to hold it. Kind of like a spool of thread. The main thing is that you don't try to put much bend on it. But it's too much a pain to fire up a torch.
The last thing you want is for the wire to pop loose because it gets screw up quick
11-11-04, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by patman
ps steiner: brown pillowcases + a black marker+ leaves/old clothes/paper towels/small children/neighbors annoying little wiener dog/ whatever else you find to stuff em with.
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well the worst part was after I got it back there was so much filings magnatized to the lugs inside by the drive rollers, that it took FOREVER to get it all out, and it got rust spots on the inside of it too, time to go find a paint match for lincoln red 
oh well at least I can do the whole thing again and put a couple coats of clear on it too. sometimes I think I love my machines a little too much.
btw about a year ago the weinertruck stayed next to our apaprtment, supposedly some aquaintances wrapped the bejesus outta it with seran wrap, even had a reservoir tip and all. Also not to long after a huge M&M on wheels rolled through, imagine a blue M&M on its back with its legs propped up almost in birthing posistion with a quite "full" feeling expression (not the food type either), windsheild was under the groin. Man that thing had all kinds of possibilities, too bad by the time we got done after class it was gone.
oh well at least I can do the whole thing again and put a couple coats of clear on it too. sometimes I think I love my machines a little too much.btw about a year ago the weinertruck stayed next to our apaprtment, supposedly some aquaintances wrapped the bejesus outta it with seran wrap, even had a reservoir tip and all. Also not to long after a huge M&M on wheels rolled through, imagine a blue M&M on its back with its legs propped up almost in birthing posistion with a quite "full" feeling expression (not the food type either), windsheild was under the groin. Man that thing had all kinds of possibilities, too bad by the time we got done after class it was gone.
11-13-04, 06:10 PM
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Well I got the kit in the compressor and it is happy now. Better yet I got to test the new wire.
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!
These pictures may not say much to you but here is the scenerio. As I said before I figured this would have to be water-cooled but I should be able to at least see if it works before going to all the trouble.
I was not able to pick up the blasting grit so I had to make due with an angle grinder and just kind of making little indentions to try to get a profile. But that was okay because I could at least tell if it would work.
I blew some metal on the test piece and then put in it to the belt sander and then to the angle grinder. It stuck tighter than a frog's *** (water tight )
The neat thing I was able to tell that this was working great because while grinding (or trying to grind) the sprayed area the angle grinder hardly phases it. But as soon as I got off the spray the disk would dig quickly.
If you go back to the original test housing back a long time ago you can see the similarity of the first grind where I just knocked the tops of the spray off but before I was down below the inconsistant surface.
So while this may not look like much it is exactly what I was hoping to see.
GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!
These pictures may not say much to you but here is the scenerio. As I said before I figured this would have to be water-cooled but I should be able to at least see if it works before going to all the trouble.
I was not able to pick up the blasting grit so I had to make due with an angle grinder and just kind of making little indentions to try to get a profile. But that was okay because I could at least tell if it would work.
I blew some metal on the test piece and then put in it to the belt sander and then to the angle grinder. It stuck tighter than a frog's *** (water tight
) The neat thing I was able to tell that this was working great because while grinding (or trying to grind) the sprayed area the angle grinder hardly phases it. But as soon as I got off the spray the disk would dig quickly.
If you go back to the original test housing back a long time ago you can see the similarity of the first grind where I just knocked the tops of the spray off but before I was down below the inconsistant surface.
So while this may not look like much it is exactly what I was hoping to see.