is that a pic of a water cooled intercooler/radiator?

 

You guys really ought to buy the last issue of HOTROD magizeen. In it they compair the street glow "import" and the top domestic prostock. The article had coments on the drivers on eachother's cars and all. very good read.

 

Really, I had a hard time finding a domestic prostock car with a 2 rotor methanol and turbo, honda b18's or a 2tgz....I hate to break it to you but pro-stock drag racers didn't invent msd ignitions , methanol, turbos, 1600 cc injectors either, now that you have pigeon hole your examples to just one sector of NHRA drag racing, I am not really sure what your point is anymore, are you gonna claim they invented the car next? The point is, in a very short period of time, the import guys have tuned imported powerplants to give enough power to get some incredible times out of these engines, and alot of them have done it without the 30 years of R&D work done on specific engines that the domestic aftermarket and domestic drag racers have had the luxury of using, I realize you have some kind of boner for anything domestic, but don't be afraid to give credit where it is due, I used your logic, I would be looking to darrell Alderman for 13b tuning tips, I don't think that would be very successful.....How about some pics of those drag cars sent to Japan? probably with the pics of the billet rotors eh?....Max

 

Max, while I applaud your love of imports, you obviously don't know what you're talking about, so it's just getting boring reading your posts.

MSD ignition boxes, methanol, and turbos were in use long before anyone thought of drag racing imports because they were so goddamn slow. The bottom line is that imports wouldn't be nearly as fast as they are today without domestic chassis and suspension advancements or domestic running gear. Period.

You can put up all the arguments you want, but the fact is that import drag racing is building off the last 30+ years of domestic drag racing evolution, not the other way around.

 

ahhhhh! it's like talking to a ******* brick wall. first of all wtf is a 2tgz? secondly, when did i say pro stock used methanol and turbos? thirdly, the reason they've been able to be so quick is because everything has already been done before by the domestics. tell me what pro rwd out there is quick and doesn't use a chassis from a domestic chassis builder? you say the point is that the impots guys have tuned their powerplants with the 30 years of r&D. do you know who is doing the tuning for these cars? do you want to give jerry malicoat, steph's crew chief a call, do you want to call bert gaetner, ara and george's crewchief, a call? ask them where they learned to build and tune engines. i'd give you their number if you weren't such a dumbfuck and irritate the hell out of em. when kenny tran switched to methanol he kept blowing heads like there was no tomorrow, who did he turn to? bob norwood. what tuneup did he use? one from an alcohol dragster. lisa kubo was blowing so many motors when she switched to methanol, she never even ran her eg coupe. now who is she working for? jim epler. just finding the right cam for a turbo methanol car can give you over 150hp, guess what profiles the guys like steph and bullish use, exact copies of domestic cams from pro mods and alcohol dragsters. do you know how long it took to get the pro stock chassis, which is the chassis all the pro-rwd guys run, to evolve to the point where it is now? you think steph just invented the 4-link and ford 9" rear on his own and that's why he's going so quick? what so-called special parts or tune-ups are you talking about when you say the imports have all these special advancements? name one ******* thing that import guys have contributed to the domestic world that they haven't already tried before.

about the billet rotors, you're right i'm a liar, they're impossible to make. i mean no machine in the world can just cut any shape you want out of a solid piece of forged aluminum. what kind of fantasy world do i live in where such a machine, let's just call it oh say a cnc machine, actually exists. if you want to hear about the drag cars sent to japan give willie rells sr. a call @ (619) 670-7356. ask him about all the cars he's built for the top drag racers in japan, and especially ask him about the cars he built for the yakuza, he loves that story.

 

OK drag cars for japanese mobsters, sure thing guy.. whatever you say...If he was talking such things, he probably wouldn't be alive at this point...
Why would you build aluminium rotors, as if it wasn't thermally inefficient enough....My point is there are more classes to import racing than prosstock, everything has been done before by the domestics, tell Eddy bello that...
Again you are mixing invention with implementation, first of all you talk outside of the NHRa, then its import racers, then its just prostock racers then its not prostock then its domestic prostock got copied ofr everything, then its prostock doesn't run that stuff, then its the cam profiles are copied.... If you want to start arguing hardware invention, I would challenge that there are numerous other forms of racing repsonsible for the power level achieved by all outside of prostock....And who did Able Ibarra get his cam tuning from, oh let me guess, a top fuel racer...give it a rest man... Oh by the way, read the forum rules, buh bye....