Rotary Car Performance General Rotary Car and Engine modification discussions.

lightened rotor's...weighed in!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-03-05, 09:11 PM
  #1  
Where's the Meth

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
orange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Nelson, New Zealand
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
lightened rotor's...weighed in!

Here's a set of lightened rotors, done over here in NZ. I was asked a question as to how much they weigh in at, the front 4.23kg, & the rear 4.221kg.

These rotors have come out of a series 4, 13b 6 port, as to the original weight,I am unsure but was hoping some one out there might know. It would be interesting to see a comparsion between the weight's of the rotor's. If any one can help me with this or direct me to a page that can, that would be much appriciated.
Attached Thumbnails lightened rotor's...weighed in!-lightened.gif   lightened rotor's...weighed in!-modd-rotor.jpg  
Old 03-03-05, 11:52 PM
  #2  
PDF
Full Member

 
PDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: .
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Series 4 6port rotor standard weight with bearing 4.612kg
Old 03-04-05, 12:09 AM
  #3  
Rotorhead

 
Evil Aviator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
Posts: 9,136
Likes: 0
Received 39 Likes on 33 Posts
http://www.mazdatrix.com/faq/rotorwgt.htm
Old 03-04-05, 08:10 AM
  #4  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
speedturn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Rocket City, Alabama
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
So they ended up being 100 grams lighter than a stock 1989 - 1991 13B rotor; not a lot of weight savings, only about 2.5%
Old 03-04-05, 08:34 AM
  #5  
Lives on the Forum

 
DamonB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Dallas
Posts: 9,617
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
My buddy has a set of lightened rotors from Mazda Motorsports. I wish I knew the weight but they have a LOT of material milled out. Half of the "holes" around the bearings are completely milled away as well as much of the face on both sides.
Old 03-04-05, 09:05 AM
  #6  
formerly 93BlackFD

 
boostgasm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
rick engman from downing atlanta has rotors that weight 3644grams

used in the R26B
Old 03-04-05, 04:35 PM
  #7  
Kim
OBEY YOUR MAZDA

 
Kim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 3,060
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I havent weighed these yet, just another example of a rotor

http://www.wankelkim.net/rx7/fb/PICT0870.JPG
Old 03-08-05, 11:25 PM
  #8  
W. TX chirpin Monkey

 
fastrotaries's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Mesquite, TX
Posts: 2,684
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone here running lightened rotors. I remember like 5 yrs ago, some guys were gonna redo a rebuild with them, but don't know if they ever went through with it.
Old 03-08-05, 11:52 PM
  #9  
Full Member

 
Michael_Rudy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C. ,Canada
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Kim do you know where i can get that rotor lightening done?? i can't find anyone that does it, thanks
Old 03-09-05, 11:08 AM
  #10  
Will u do me a kindness?

iTrader: (2)
 
the_glass_man's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Parlor City, NY
Posts: 5,031
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Michael_Rudy
Kim do you know where i can get that rotor lightening done?? i can't find anyone that does it, thanks
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/lightweight-rotors%3Dless-torque-379771/
Old 03-09-05, 02:59 PM
  #11  
Kim
OBEY YOUR MAZDA

 
Kim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 3,060
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Michael_Rudy
Kim do you know where i can get that rotor lightening done?? i can't find anyone that does it, thanks
Mazdatrix, racing Beat, or any other serious motorbuilders
Old 03-09-05, 11:11 PM
  #12  
Full Member

 
Michael_Rudy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C. ,Canada
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mazdatrix and racingbeat both don't lighten rotors they sell lightened rotors for a crazy like 2000$
Old 03-14-05, 11:31 PM
  #13  
Where's the Meth

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
orange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Nelson, New Zealand
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I get these rotors done through a local engineer who does the work for the rotary workshops.
Old 03-15-05, 06:15 PM
  #14  
Photo Diety

 
rx7tt95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Try CLR Motorsports. They can have the rotors lightened and a bunch of other stuff to them as well. Located in Miami. Here is an image of what they did to Turbo II rotors. Lightened to 93 spec weight. 305.970.1774
Attached Thumbnails lightened rotor's...weighed in!-horotors.jpg  
Old 03-15-05, 06:49 PM
  #15  
Kim
OBEY YOUR MAZDA

 
Kim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 3,060
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
^^^wow
Old 03-16-05, 01:17 AM
  #16  
Senior Member

 
SPiN Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: St. Pete, FL
Posts: 482
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rx7tt95
Try CLR Motorsports. They can have the rotors lightened and a bunch of other stuff to them as well. Located in Miami. Here is an image of what they did to Turbo II rotors. Lightened to 93 spec weight. 305.970.1774
Wow.. looks like thay changed the chamber size as well.. with those millings on the rotor face as well.
Obviously lightening, and compression lowering as well... but keeping the "bathtub" area intact for flame control. Very interesting way to both lighten, and lower the compression.....
Old 03-16-05, 02:54 AM
  #17  
Rotary Freak

 
c00lduke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Overland Park, KS
Posts: 2,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That has to lower compresion alot
Old 03-16-05, 03:33 AM
  #18  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (4)
 
riceburner1r2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: riverside county
Posts: 1,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
im running rx8 rotors in my all motor but cant remember how light they are and dont know if i can take anymore weight off them. if i can i will see if my friend rob at rotary shack can do it.
Old 03-16-05, 03:37 PM
  #19  
Full Member

 
Cheesy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SPiN Racing
Wow.. looks like thay changed the chamber size as well.. with those millings on the rotor face as well.
Obviously lightening, and compression lowering as well... but keeping the "bathtub" area intact for flame control. Very interesting way to both lighten, and lower the compression.....

I think you'll find that the cuts on the rotor face are to change the effective port timing
Old 03-16-05, 08:00 PM
  #20  
PDF
Full Member

 
PDF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: .
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by riceburner1r2001
im running rx8 rotors in my all motor but cant remember how light they are and dont know if i can take anymore weight off them. if i can i will see if my friend rob at rotary shack can do it.
What did you do about the excessive side seal clearance?
Old 03-16-05, 08:20 PM
  #21  
Rotors keep you going

 
speedx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Boston, Massachusetts
Posts: 623
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rx7tt95
Try CLR Motorsports. They can have the rotors lightened and a bunch of other stuff to them as well. Located in Miami. Here is an image of what they did to Turbo II rotors. Lightened to 93 spec weight. 305.970.1774
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats nice
Old 03-18-05, 12:30 PM
  #22  
Senior Member

iTrader: (2)
 
bolo_fd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Washington/BC
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
why is that they only machine away the top of the rotor face and not both top and bottom?
Attached Thumbnails lightened rotor's...weighed in!-clr-lightened-rotors.jpg  
Old 03-18-05, 01:53 PM
  #23  
formerly 93BlackFD

 
boostgasm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bolo_fd
why is that they only machine away the top of the rotor face and not both top and bottom?
think of how that affects the ports, that's why they did it
Old 03-18-05, 07:13 PM
  #24  
Photo Diety

 
rx7tt95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bingo. FYI, CLR can do them to the 88-spec n/a rotors which have the higher comp ratio of the 93's but the thicker casting of the S4 TurboII rotors. Carlos still recommends the lower compression rotors.
Michel
Old 03-19-05, 03:58 AM
  #25  
Senior Member

 
SPiN Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: St. Pete, FL
Posts: 482
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Cheesy
I think you'll find that the cuts on the rotor face are to change the effective port timing
Nope.. that changes the port timing ZERO.

Unless they cut NEW side seals.. changed to the face of the rotor do Nothing..
The opening of the side.. or peripheral port is ONLY effected (In relation to the rotor) by the passage of any one of the seals.. Side, Apex, or Corner.
NOW... That being said.. bleh.. You might ger a TINY amount of better FLOW into the engine immediately after that port OPENS via the Side seal's passage..
BUT.. That being the case.. the improvement would be beyond minimal... Remember this has to be a forced induction engine.. And well.. I personally dont think it would give much inprovement to your air flow. YES... it MAY give some.. but not much.

Now... if it was N/A... and you were talking a motor that NEEDED that 1HP over the competitor.. well.... Yes. That TINY improvement multiplied by 30 other things you did to make the car faster=Winning front runner.

In a Turbo application... I think the compression lowering is Much more of a factor than the flow increase.... /shrug

Anyhow... Timing.. Nope. Seals control that... Unless they are RE_cut.. then nope.


Quick Reply: lightened rotor's...weighed in!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:48 AM.