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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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lightened rotor's...

This is an example of work being done by some local engineers in Auckland, New Zealand.
If anyone has any susuggestion's, comments or theory's on the shown rotor for improvements, what have you, drop us a line, always good to hear other people's idea's.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Neat, that's pretty much the same method that everyone else uses to lighten rotors. I assume they will be balanced as well?
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Hey Orange,

who in NZ is doing this for you?

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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speaking of engine component balancing , how and who does it correctly? RON
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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They used to have a brief section on how to balance the reciprocating assembly for a rotary on the Mazda competition site.

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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They were done in precision engineering in Albany. A guy by the name of Geoff Bruce.

All the components are balanced and clearanced before assembly.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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If rotor weights are changed, I think the e-shaft assembly must be dynamically balanced. The e-shaft is fitted with 'bobweights' for the rotors, and the fore/aft counterbalance weights(frt hub and flywheel), and then the assembly is spun balanced at a few hundred rpm.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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How come they never used lightened materials (ie: aluminium) for the rotors? I was just reading my RX-7 history book and was wondering why Mazda made the rotating assembly so heavy (I have two rotors and an e-shaft sitting here and that's a hefty chunk of metal to be spinning around at high RPMs).

I figured it wasn't a durability issue because the rotor housing themselves are aluminium, so would it be because lighter assemblies might decrease torque or something of that nature?
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by uRizen
How come they never used lightened materials (ie: aluminium) for the rotors? I was just reading my RX-7 history book and was wondering why Mazda made the rotating assembly so heavy (I have two rotors and an e-shaft sitting here and that's a hefty chunk of metal to be spinning around at high RPMs).

I figured it wasn't a durability issue because the rotor housing themselves are aluminium, so would it be because lighter assemblies might decrease torque or something of that nature?
Because of the increased cost. Mazda used aluminum ceramic coated rotors in their MX-03 concept car. It really would be nice if Mazda used aluminum throughout the entire engine assembly.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Because of the increased cost. Mazda used aluminum ceramic coated rotors in their MX-03 concept car. It really would be nice if Mazda used aluminum throughout the entire engine assembly.
From my understanding aluminum expands more than iron and thast one of the big reasons. Your car would start really bad cause of the low compression (for the clearance on expanding) and then run good once it warms up.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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I am also interested in who offers these services.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryWeaponSE7EN
I am also interested in who offers these services.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/lightweight-rotors%3Dless-torque-379771/
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Actually, as I understand it, dramatically lighter rotors will decrease lower end torque. Most likely, Mazda kept some weight to help the torque on an engine that was already light on the bottom end torque.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Actually, as I understand it, dramatically lighter rotors will decrease lower end torque. Most likely, Mazda kept some weight to help the torque on an engine that was already light on the bottom end torque.
Nope.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=379771
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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think about it:

torque= (force X distance). did you see anything about mass in there?

the argument that light weight rotors will reduce your engines tourque is a joke.

now the lower rotational inertia and probable loss of smoothness associated with it could be interpreted as a loss of tourque, but it technically isnt.

i could see a severly lightened rotor being "capped" to a certain level of boost and thus tourque output for the sake of reliabilty. but apples to apples i see no way how a lighter rotor would make an engine loose torque.


if anything, the motor would probobly produce MORE crank torque because of reduced bearing loads etc...

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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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Lightweight rotors will only free up more power to the wheels not at the crank and allow the motor to rev faster. Think lightweight flywheel...

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