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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 12:14 AM
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Imports already in the 6s?!

Ok I thought Siguel had a decent shot at being the first Import in the 6s, but it seems the feat has already been acomplished. I guess I might be behind on this news but I havent heard anyone else say anything. On the IDRC website it says that the Nelson Hoyos Focus has already run a best time of 6.83 @ 199 mph! The sucks that a 4.7 liter domestic V6 got to be the first "Sport Compact" in the 6s. This sucks Scanton got the first Import over 200 in that V-8 THING and now a domestic V-6 steals the show with the first 6 second run
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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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If they're just going by the whole sport compact thing, there were a pair of Probes, full tube chassis cars which regularly dipped into the 6's at over 200mph. And that was 5-6 years ago! They would have fit in perfectly with the 2002 rules. And yes, they did use V8's. Glad they're getting rid of them next year.
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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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YA fo real, this v8 **** is dumb. We need to keep it strict and competetive. Hopefully rotarys will hit 6's soon.

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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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YA fo real, this v8 **** is dumb. We need to keep it strict and competetive. Hopefully rotarys will hit 6's soon.

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why would a v8 be dumb? a 3-rotor is just as out of place as a v8. i think we should ban those too.
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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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What I think sucks, and I am sure I am not the only one, is that the import scene used to be a place where anyone could go and race and compete. You didn't need a huge sponsor and all kinds of money if you were willing to get your hands dirty. Now I see it closing up like the domestic scene has already done and pushing the little guy out. Its not quite there yet, but it looks like that's the way its going. Its probably evolution and probably also good for the sport, but bad for the little guy that wants to build a car and race...
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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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FOCUS with a domestic produced V6 is no IMPORT
edit:that must be a rumer there is no news of this run
I checked all my sources.........

The real <------------------------------------ challenge is a IMPORT in the 6's......Which has been done I hear in Japan in a skyline but there tracks are shorter then US tracks so it does not really count
Untill they bring the skyline over and do it here in the states.

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Old Aug 26, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Why is this dumb? Because how many jap. Import (cars) can you go out and buy right now come with v8's? Why do you think the 3 rotor should be banned? Just curious, is it because it was never imported?

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why would a v8 be dumb? a 3-rotor is just as out of place as a v8. i think we should ban those too.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 12:42 AM
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Why is this dumb? Because how many jap. Import (cars) can you go out and buy right now come with v8's? Why do you think the 3 rotor should be banned? Just curious, is it because it was never imported?

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Toyota Tundra comes to mind. Along with some Lexus.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by kabooski
FOCUS with a domestic produced V6 is no IMPORT
edit:that must be a rumer there is no news of this run
I checked all my sources.........

Well I dunno if its a rumor because its right here...

http://www.importdrag.com/racers_MattHartford.shtml
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 01:36 AM
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Delta: I said in cars. Not in SUVS and well i dont see very many lexus drag cars out there... I am sorry to start a debate cus i am really not ver knowledgeable about which engines came in what. I am just a rotary guy and i dont know much about any thing else as far as engines in other POS cars.

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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The real <------------------------------------ challenge is a IMPORT in the 6's......Which has been done I hear in Japan in a skyline but there tracks are shorter then US tracks so it does not really count
Untill they bring the skyline over and do it here in the states.
not all the tracks in japan are short. there is a nhra certified track in japan. it is in sendi. the hks supra should be running 6's by the end off the season but is has a v8.
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Originally posted by Rotortuner
Delta: I said in cars. Not in SUVS and well i dont see very many lexus drag cars out there... I am sorry to start a debate cus i am really not ver knowledgeable about which engines came in what. I am just a rotary guy and i dont know much about any thing else as far as engines in other POS cars.

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There are some lexus car models that do come with 4.3 liter V8s. The Blast Racing Lexus SC300 has a V8 in it. It only competed in the first event of the season though.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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There is a 4 cyl VW with a paxton\payton (or something along those lines) that broke the 6 sec barrier a couple of months ago.

I am not against anything, however there should be a weight to engine size rule IMHO.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Rotortuner
Delta: I said in cars. Not in SUVS and well i dont see very many lexus drag cars out there... I am sorry to start a debate cus i am really not ver knowledgeable about which engines came in what. I am just a rotary guy and i dont know much about any thing else as far as engines in other POS cars.

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a whole shitload of import cars come w/ v8s here. the lex has been mentioned, but there's also the q45 v8, which is one badass mother, it's based on infinity's irl motor. not to mention all the european cars, all the trucks, all the suv's. the fact is nothing here comes w/ a 3-rotor. it's even more out of place than a v8. i don't know if you've been hiding under a rock but there are lots of lexus drag cars out there. the blast, the area 51, the toyomoto, etc. how many cosmo drag cars do you see?
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by fdracer

not to mention all the european cars

He said Japanese Imports... Thats why i didnt comment on the euro V-8s.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by KNONFS
There is a 4 cyl VW with a paxton\payton (or something along those lines) that broke the 6 sec barrier a couple of months ago.

I am not against anything, however there should be a weight to engine size rule IMHO.
That VW does not have just any engine, it is either a V6 or V8 made by some marine engine builder ( **** that does not even come in cars to begin with )
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why would a v8 be dumb? a 3-rotor is just as out of place as a v8. i think we should ban those too.
V8 = 4.3L
20B = 2.0L


What is your beef ?
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V8 = 4.3L
20B = 2.0L


What is your beef ?
20B flows as much as a 4.0L piston engine.

13B flows as much as a 2.6L piston engine.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by DELTA_Rotary


20B flows as much as a 4.0L piston engine.

13B flows as much as a 2.6L piston engine.
Can someone show me the math behind it ?

There are 3 chambers, each rotor spins 1/3 of what the shaft spins at. So there is 666cc in each rotor. How many times does the engine fire per rotation ?

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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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That VW does not have just any engine, it is either a V6 or V8 made by some marine engine builder ( **** that does not even come in cars to begin with )
It is a 4 cylinder engine.
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20B flows as much as a 4.0L piston engine.

13B flows as much as a 2.6L piston engine.
I am not sure if this is a true statement, however the fact is that a 13B is a 1.3L and a 20B is a 2 liters. If they flow more air than a 1.3l piston engine, hmmm.........

Well that's one of the reasons why we all love the rotary engine so much
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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I heard mid to late last year that Siguel already broke the 6 sec. barrier before anyone else. I think he ran a 6.98 or something. Of course this was in Puerto Rico so maybe most people haven't heard about it here in the U.S.
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I heard mid to late last year that Siguel already broke the 6 sec. barrier before anyone else. I think he ran a 6.98 or something. Of course this was in Puerto Rico so maybe most people haven't heard about it here in the U.S.
Nope, not true.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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Oh well.......maybe a rotary will be the first into the 5's...........lol
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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so is anyone going to prove to me mathematicaly that the engine ( 1.3L and 2.0L ) gulps like a 2.6 and 4.0L ???
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