How to make 700rwhp ??
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How to make 700rwhp ??
I was just wondering if someone could maybe tell me what kind of a setup could make 700rwhp??
I have been scoping out some parts and stuff for this project, heres what I think will do the job.
Extended port, they say 220hp
Stage 3 BNR TT runing not in sequential, they say 450hp+
All the small things like FMIC,racing flywheel,exahust....ext:
and all on say 15-18 psi boost and no NOS.
Im not looking for a drag car here I just like the idea of riding around in 700hp car so that if i wanted to i could so easily kill anything on the street.
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~ICE~
I have been scoping out some parts and stuff for this project, heres what I think will do the job.
Extended port, they say 220hp
Stage 3 BNR TT runing not in sequential, they say 450hp+
All the small things like FMIC,racing flywheel,exahust....ext:
and all on say 15-18 psi boost and no NOS.
Im not looking for a drag car here I just like the idea of riding around in 700hp car so that if i wanted to i could so easily kill anything on the street.
thanks
~ICE~
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I would estimate the BNR twins on a streetported engine could get you into the low 500's with some really good tuning, but that is about it.
I would estimate the BNR twins on a streetported engine could get you into the low 500's with some really good tuning, but that is about it.
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you're gonna need a big turbo, T72 or larger, with extended ports you are gonna be blowing 30psi or damn close to it which means avgas or race gas MUST be used. You're are going to need at least 1000cc primaries and 1600cc Secondary injectors. You'll be fighting a major uphill battle as there is very few people in NZ, if anyone who is making that kinda HP, and those who are in that ballpark wont tell you any info. So chances are you'd need a motor, prepped and built by someone across the Tasman. There is no way in hell the stock TT set up, no matter how modified it is, is going to flow anywhere near 700RWHP.
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Haa a fellow countrymen.....tell me something, have you ever seen that FD with the chemelion colours and veilside bodykit, i think its a chicks car, Any way it was at the 4@rotary nats. That FD has 700hp but i dont know the set up of it. Dude i have seen on here a guy who has the lates TT from BNR and he pulls 500hp, so if i could rig the same thing and throw in all those injector things and a few others pices and boost it 20psi i can go way over 500hp. Scince you live here, look out for my FD towards the end of 2004, dont worry itll stick out like a sore thumb cos of the Blister bodykit.
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Originally posted by ICE_Pilot
Haa a fellow countrymen.....tell me something, have you ever seen that FD with the chemelion colours and veilside bodykit, i think its a chicks car, Any way it was at the 4@rotary nats. That FD has 700hp but i dont know the set up of it. Dude i have seen on here a guy who has the lates TT from BNR and he pulls 500hp, so if i could rig the same thing and throw in all those injector things and a few others pices and boost it 20psi i can go way over 500hp. Scince you live here, look out for my FD towards the end of 2004, dont worry itll stick out like a sore thumb cos of the Blister bodykit.
Haa a fellow countrymen.....tell me something, have you ever seen that FD with the chemelion colours and veilside bodykit, i think its a chicks car, Any way it was at the 4@rotary nats. That FD has 700hp but i dont know the set up of it. Dude i have seen on here a guy who has the lates TT from BNR and he pulls 500hp, so if i could rig the same thing and throw in all those injector things and a few others pices and boost it 20psi i can go way over 500hp. Scince you live here, look out for my FD towards the end of 2004, dont worry itll stick out like a sore thumb cos of the Blister bodykit.
You need a reality check dude.
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Haa a fellow countrymen.....tell me something, have you ever seen that FD with the chemelion colours and veilside bodykit, i think its a chicks car, Any way it was at the 4@rotary nats. That FD has 700hp but i dont know the set up of it. Dude i have seen on here a guy who has the lates TT from BNR and he pulls 500hp, so if i could rig the same thing and throw in all those injector things and a few others pices and boost it 20psi i can go way over 500hp. Scince you live here, look out for my FD towards the end of 2004, dont worry itll stick out like a sore thumb cos of the Blister bodykit.
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you could make 700 on twins, just not on the stock tt manifold, it'd have to be custom. w/ just a large streetport, you'll need huge turbo, tons of boost and the proper amount of fuel.
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In order to make 700rwhp you will need to move about 80lbs. of air a min. The ONLY way to do that is with a large turbo or two mids. At least a 72mm comp housing, or the like. THere is NO way the stock twins or anything even similar in size will come close. (Imagine the volume of air it would take to weigh one pound) Well you need 80 of those to get about 700rwhp!
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ok so its a 20b, u still need a big turbo and oh yeah id recomend METHANOL, that should take care of the fuel problem lol, but i dont know of ne rx7s running that much power in a non drag car, i could be wrong tho
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well you are still going to need a lot of work, 20B or not.
RX-7 heavan have a road legal 20B bat with TA45 turbo making 540HP at 13psi at the wheels.
That twin turbo Sev you are thinking of is not the chicks car, hers is the other one. The one you are thinking of is a J port twin turbo, even the guys who built it said the ports were to wild apprently, and if its a J I would think so too.
RX-7 heavan have a road legal 20B bat with TA45 turbo making 540HP at 13psi at the wheels.
That twin turbo Sev you are thinking of is not the chicks car, hers is the other one. The one you are thinking of is a J port twin turbo, even the guys who built it said the ports were to wild apprently, and if its a J I would think so too.
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Ok so maybe i talk a little crap...but there has to be away to get 700 on twins. If not tell me then how much power is needed for a 10sec machine....500 ??
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realy???...with out NOS...cos i dont like nos
realy???...with out NOS...cos i dont like nos
For your estimation purposes...
http://www.iroc-z.com/flashlight/how...alc/hpcalc.htm
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Ice pilot, why did you ask "How to make 700rwhp" and want to argue with people's advice and comments??? You dont need near 700rwhp to get into 10s. 410 should be good if your a decent driver. Dont say 20b cuz you dotn have one.
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Ok so maybe i talk a little crap...but there has to be away to get 700 on twins.
Ok so maybe i talk a little crap...but there has to be away to get 700 on twins.
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I dident mean stock twins fellas....sorry if i was not spacific. And the 20B crack, yes I am planing on buying a Pettit bansi 20B 500hp engine. I know you cant get big HP on stock twins but i know you can on others or Joe Signorely wouldant have them in his 7 sec FD.
I got pics of Joes car from the 4&rotary nats...i just havent developed them yet, but as soon as i do ill have some scanned.
What I was looking for was a set up with very large twins to get close to 700hp with out haveing to cut a pridge port and loose reliability on the engine.
Anyway sorry for arguing with you guys, i know your just trying to help. Thanks.
You see I am trying to build a racing FD for the track and the street.
I got pics of Joes car from the 4&rotary nats...i just havent developed them yet, but as soon as i do ill have some scanned.
What I was looking for was a set up with very large twins to get close to 700hp with out haveing to cut a pridge port and loose reliability on the engine.
Anyway sorry for arguing with you guys, i know your just trying to help. Thanks.
You see I am trying to build a racing FD for the track and the street.
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You must realise the difference between a drag car using twins and a street car using twins.
On a drag car, their twin turbos are very large, and generally they will lag even more than a large single turbo big enough to flow 700 rwhp. The reason drag racers use twins is because they can't get a single turbo big enough to flow the amount of air they need set still small enough for the engine to spool up in time.
And just because he has a 20B and runs 7's doesn't mean you can make the same power with your engine. Well, unless you plan on spending $50,000 - $75,000 on the engine alone (not exagerating). Even if you did spend that much money to make that amount of power, it wouldn't be streetable at all.
Don't compare a street engine to a Pro-class drag engine - it's a whole different game. ****, they aren't even racing RX-7s anymore... just an engine, 4 wheels, and a seat! Don't let the full carbon fibre body which resembles an RX-7 trick you to thinking your car is the same. These are cars that weigh in at 1600-2100lbs, compared to your car at 2600-2900 lbs.
As a few guys mentioned, you don't need 700 rwhp to get into the 10s, especially when using a 20B since it has a lot more torque and low rpm power. 500 will do it. The Petit Bonzai package would be excellent for what you want. They are one of the top rotary tuners, but be prepared to pay for it
On a drag car, their twin turbos are very large, and generally they will lag even more than a large single turbo big enough to flow 700 rwhp. The reason drag racers use twins is because they can't get a single turbo big enough to flow the amount of air they need set still small enough for the engine to spool up in time.
And just because he has a 20B and runs 7's doesn't mean you can make the same power with your engine. Well, unless you plan on spending $50,000 - $75,000 on the engine alone (not exagerating). Even if you did spend that much money to make that amount of power, it wouldn't be streetable at all.
Don't compare a street engine to a Pro-class drag engine - it's a whole different game. ****, they aren't even racing RX-7s anymore... just an engine, 4 wheels, and a seat! Don't let the full carbon fibre body which resembles an RX-7 trick you to thinking your car is the same. These are cars that weigh in at 1600-2100lbs, compared to your car at 2600-2900 lbs.
As a few guys mentioned, you don't need 700 rwhp to get into the 10s, especially when using a 20B since it has a lot more torque and low rpm power. 500 will do it. The Petit Bonzai package would be excellent for what you want. They are one of the top rotary tuners, but be prepared to pay for it
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