BlkS5TII

Mostly just the S2k and NSX owners. A cool owner of anything else Honda is about as common as an FD. And no, I'm not talking about the kind of guy that is cool to your face and then talks **** on your car behind your back. I've met a few of them.

10thAEWHiteHeat

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If he is boosting 15 lbs with the right build with s300 properly tuned and knows how to drive you just might be in for a surprise. If these are the circumstances, Your best shot at winning will be from a dig. His torque will play a big role once he hits 3rd gear especially. The prelude is not a very heavy car (especially the lighter 4th gen) so light car + torque will mean that his acceleration won't let up much in the higher gears. If you run from a roll make sure to brake boost. Good luck and don't shame the 7!!

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

I'm not lying...the back slid out...it wasn't like i was going totally sideways...but the back did step out...i obviously can't drift like a rear wheel drive car. The back has stepped out with my brother a couple of times too...once again...i'm not saying we were goin totally sideways or nethin & smokin tires all over the place...the car oversteered...not understeered.

Jager

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Irony is I think FD owners are complete ******** .

I've met like 30, only one was cool .

V8Killer

ummm like I said ive driven both cars and I would say that the FD pulls wayyy harder..his prelude is nice and all sounds mean...but up top no power...if it's true that he has piston's he would need some type of port job to increase the airflow thus create more of a powerband...I would say at most his car run's a 13 maybe 13.5....not sure tho as yea I really don't know much about honda's rotaries are my life...does anyone know a good school to become certified by any chance??

rx7legend

why is there always someone that comes to every thread to crap in it and talk ****, bro if he says that then let him be, if you don't believe him then don't post insulting him, just keep it to yourself punk. well aside from this hondas are pretty good cars but the problem ALWAYS is the driver, why do you want to race someone if later your goona tell him that your car is not running right??? for the love of god if your car is running poor then just don't race, fix the problem and then come back with your game on, i still don't know why they always come with lame excuses, i remember a guy in a acura integra vtec that told me i beat him because his vtec didn't activate , that was the funniest and lamest excuse i have ever heard from a honda owner but sure enough it was funny damn funny.

fcrotornut

the way i see it, if your car isnt running right dont race it.
and if it is running right, save it for the track or a sanctioned event.

but kids are retarded now days and dont care. young whippersnappers.

-old man out.

bigdaddyp

ill put it this way. My brother's bone stock 05 focus outran about a 99 or 01 or something like that prelude. They arent fast just cause it is an "h22".

10thAEWHiteHeat

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^^ driver error buddy. Take it from somebody who actually KNOWS something about Hondas not just hates on them. I have owned a prelude and i beat SVT focus' with an intake, pulleys, clutch, and 8 lb flywheel

BlkS5TII

H22 Prelude > Focus. I'd say it was driver error as well.

jic

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honduh preloot ftw

10thAEWHiteHeat

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So did you guys race this weekend?

Boostmaniac

He didn't say if it was modified or not.

10thAEWHiteHeat

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^^Yes it was so modified that is was BONE STOCK

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

Just to let those who didn't think an H22 could put out much, there is a '98 civic (saw it in Super Street) pushing 852hp...sure it's not the same 1000hp...though i'm sure i heard that before. This is just proof of the engines capabilities. I'm more in love with RX-7s than any other car...but hondas are also on my favourites list...they're definitely not a company to be looked down upon. BTW...vtec is a beautiful thing...giving you economy & performance in one package...it's not sumthin to be looked down upon...that's why everyone else is following the trend.

oo7arkman

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I do not think that anyone said it could not be done.... But those hondas are both few and far between.. Not to mention most of those cars rarely see the road on a regular basis. Most are dyno and trailer queens used only for bragging rights of "oh yeah well my b18 put out xxx hp.." Honda makes arguably two "performance cars, the S2K and the NSX. I guess some may consider the RSX-S as well but I do not. Other than those few examples, honda's focus is not (and it is even evident in those I just mentioned) that thier main goal is an economical car, not a performance car. Even if you can make big power in such a car that does not make it some performance machine. I think that is the main point here...

CarbonR1

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I actually happen to own both cars. I have a turbo 4th gen H22A1 prelude, and on only 7psi of boost, it is a very quick car (when running right). It all depends on the setup, since there can be a huge difference between one turbo Honda setup and another. I'd have to say that my turbo prelude when running in tip top shape was definitely quicker than a stock FD and it is much much more low end torque.

dakotaracer

from what i have seen a stock h22 prelude (i assume h22 was only in the mid to late 90's) is good for mayyybe a mid 14 to low 15 depending on driver etc. they aren't all that slow. and i hate them personally.

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

How can you not think of preludes an integra's as performance cars?? Obviously the Integra Type R is a performance car...and so is the Prelude Type S. Even in 1985/86...the prelude was claimed the 2nd best handling car, behind the porsche 944. It was walking past ferrari's...and it was FWD...as always. A car that has that type of potential is a performance car...not to mention the fact that it's engine was used in honda racing cars (can't remember what division)

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

And regarding the '05 focus...unless it was the SVT...it was a driver's race. I could use the example of when my bro took a lude with an H22 with our '91 Integra LS...but that was obviously a driver's race.

Heisenberg

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Its difficult and expensive to build up a turbo H22 motor. If you want to lower the compression ratio for good turbo applications you have to sleeve the motor due to its Nicklide(sp) type block to accept aftermarket pistons. Thats why you typically only see 5-7 psi because people dont realize they are putting a turbo on a high compression motor. I for one wouldnt turbo that motor unless i was going to do it right. Im sure it added some decent power but I dont see it hanging with a light modded FD unless its in a gutted hatch and the motor isnt going to last long imo.

I call BS on the focus story. I owned a 94 prelude. It wasnt what i would consider fast, but the factory focus is slow as ****, I dont care what model it is.

93rx74lyfe

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got the video????

93rx74lyfe

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got the video???

rynberg

I saw a turboed Prelude on the dyno.....it made less than 140 rwhp and was running so rich that droplets of fuel were hitting me from standing behind the car. The point is - tuning and setup make all the difference.

CasperIV

I think it's kind of like short man syndrome. They have seen fast Hondas, so they think they must be fast too. My friend was the same way with his 97 Prelude. He had his V-Tech chip, exhaust, intake, headers, blah blah blah. My NA 300ZX laid 2 cars on him with very basic mods. After about a year with the Honda he dumped it for a Z and now RX-7's. Right now he is working on getting an FD3 and can admit his Prelude was a turd.

You want to see some pissed off Honda's, watch the guys who lose to my wifes Jetta... they just can't figure out why their H22 is losing to a little 1.8. Of course they know nothing about the fact the car was laying down 150HP in stock trim and around 200HP with just ECU. Also, it helps that they added 100lbs in crappy fiberglass and spoiler to their car, and the spoilers so far out of adjustment it's actually more of a parachute.

With enough money any car can be fast, but I would rather drop 15k into something else. No matter how much money you dump into it, it's still a Honda.