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VIDEO: My CYM vs.04 Mach 1 vs. full bolt-on Mustang GT

Old 04-18-06, 01:14 PM
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VIDEO: My CYM vs.04 Mach 1 vs. full bolt-on Mustang GT

Here's a video of my CYM right before I sold it. Its a race between several of my friends. In the video there is:
1993 Yellow RX-7 w/ silicone vac hose job, Racing Beat springs, Tokico 5 way adjustables
blue 2004 Mustang Mach 1 with K&N drop in
white 2001 Mustang GT w/ full bolt-ons, 4.10 gears, cam. GT went ~12.6@109+ off the bottle, runs 11.6-11.7s on the bottle. In this race, he was off the bottle.
silver 2004 stock 350Z base
Enjoy!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...2E3F8ADC64.htm
Old 04-18-06, 01:26 PM
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So you are pretty much stock except for suspension stuff, and you are beating 12 second cars? How does that work?
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Originally Posted by Ocelot
So you are pretty much stock except for suspension stuff, and you are beating 12 second cars? How does that work?
The only 12 second cars that I have hung with or closely lost to I have only raced from a roll. From a stop they would beat me. I have actually hung with alot of cars that were putting out considerably more power than I have. My CYM went 13.11@107 with the silicone vac hoses, suspension mods and original tires from 1993 . I've been drag racing (for fun of course) for the past 10 years or so. Several forum members can vouch for my driving skills.

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Old 04-18-06, 02:06 PM
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I find that VERY hard to beleive that you ran a 13.1 with a stock motor and just suspension work. Vac hose job does not increase hp in any way, so with your ~215whp car weighing in at around 2,800lbs, i don't see how it is possible for you to run a 13.1. I'm not bashing, i'm just curious as to how you came up with 13.1, especially on like 10 year old tires!
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No offense taken. In all honesty, my RX-7 was probably a 13.7-13.9 second car with an average driver in it. But I make up alot of time between gear changes then the average driver does.
As for the tires, I did consistently get 2.00 60' times on the original tires. And FWIW, my CYM ran a 13.5@105 with a very small vac hose leak that progressed over time. Eventually I was getting beat by mildly modded all motor Maximas. Thats when I knew it was time to fix the leak. Then I did the silicone vac hose job and I couldn't believe the power I got back. Night and day difference.
Old 04-18-06, 04:52 PM
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I remember reading old posts of this fast *** CYM...

Cheers, that ****'s crazy.
Old 04-18-06, 05:16 PM
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Nice runs, that stang looked like a good match!! Funny how the 350Z isn't even in the video, anywhere. :p
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Originally Posted by lawdogg
Nice runs, that stang looked like a good match!! Funny how the 350Z isn't even in the video, anywhere. :p
Thanks. The 350Z and the Mach 1 have raced before and its actually been fairly close. The 350Z in the video is owned by a buddy of mine and IMO its kind of a factory freak. He runs with some stock LS-1 F-bodies, so its not the slowest stock Z around In the video, I don't think the 350Z was paired up with us in time for the honk off so I think he got a late start. I never thought to ask him...

Also, i forgot to mention that the white mustang GT ran the 12s on slicks, NOT street tires. On street tires his car is probably about a 12.9-13.0 car, so you can see that it is a fairly close match.
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Originally Posted by ForceFed
Thanks. The 350Z and the Mach 1 have raced before and its actually been fairly close. The 350Z in the video is owned by a buddy of mine and IMO its kind of a factory freak. He runs with some stock LS-1 F-bodies, so its not the slowest stock Z around In the video, I don't think the 350Z was paired up with us in time for the honk off so I think he got a late start. I never thought to ask him...

Also, i forgot to mention that the white mustang GT ran the 12s on slicks, NOT street tires. On street tires his car is probably about a 12.9-13.0 car, so you can see that it is a fairly close match.
Sounds like one helluva factory freak 350Z.

I wish I coulda been out there too, I woulda been dead even too. I ran a 12.7 @ 109. I can't believe the 7 is that fast for how stock it is, nice drivin!!
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Originally Posted by ForceFed
No offense taken. In all honesty, my RX-7 was probably a 13.7-13.9 second car with an average driver in it. But I make up alot of time between gear changes then the average driver does.
As for the tires, I did consistently get 2.00 60' times on the original tires. And FWIW, my CYM ran a 13.5@105 with a very small vac hose leak that progressed over time. Eventually I was getting beat by mildly modded all motor Maximas. Thats when I knew it was time to fix the leak. Then I did the silicone vac hose job and I couldn't believe the power I got back. Night and day difference.
lol!
anyways....tell me how u increase your trap speed from 100mph to 107 with driving technique alone?

a 2.00 is hardily awesome driving by the way.

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Old 04-18-06, 09:39 PM
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mmm nice runs!
i remember this one time a while back when i was at about 260 whp i ran into a modded mach 1 , and at the time i thought they were just dressed up gts so i figured i would have no problem..... that was a pretty damn fast car pulled imidiatly hard turns out he had a bout 400whp............................ but its ok because ive done some major upgrades since then hehehe =)
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unless your car is a mutant freak there is no way you could rip off a 13.1@107 i did a few horsepower calculators and with your speed you would have to have 287 rwhp and with your e.t. you would have 264 rwhp. but anyways nice videos it looked like past 90 mph your FD owned.
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oh and i ripped off a stock 1.85 in the 60'.......with 245 toyo t1s
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Turbo cars tend to have more variance in stock whp numbers. You never know.
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a difference of almost 70whp????
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Originally Posted by 21K95RX7
a difference of almost 70whp????
Great driving made up the difference?
Just speculation.
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i could see the 13.1 but they say your trap speed is the greatest measure of horspower and that said its 287 at 3000lbs (w/driver)
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Mach 1's are no joke, FOO!
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ooooooooooooooooook???? maybe with your FB lol jk bro
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Originally Posted by eatmyclutch
Mach 1's are no joke, FOO!
Mach 1's :yawn:
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Originally Posted by lawdogg
Nice runs, that stang looked like a good match!! Funny how the 350Z isn't even in the video, anywhere. :p
watch it again at 1:05 or so you can catch a glimpse of the Front bumper in the 2nd or 3rd lane. coming up behind the mustang
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
Mach 1's :yawn:

agreed!!!!
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I dont know about mazda/rx7's but for honda motors, for some reason some where biult so much stronger then others. I had a extremely strong b18c (gsr) motor in a civic. I was being people with my motor with turbo in a civic body. For what I Know rx7's are high 13's but its possible that he just had a dam strong motor that does better then usually.
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Agreed. FWIW, I always used Marvel Mystery Oil in every single fuel fill up when I had my FD. I also did oil changes at every 500 mile interval, spark plugs every 3,000 miles and coolant flushes every spring, so I would hope that my obsessive preventative maintenence would keep the motor running 100%.
Anyways, I do believe the driver makes all the difference. Its the reason why some of my friends sometimes ask me to drive their car for them at the track. I usually trap higher in their cars then they do. For example, I drove that very same silver 350Z you see in the video at the local 1/4mi strip. It was the first time I had ever driven a Z and I did horrible. The tach was a little bit off, so just when you thought you had another 200rpm to redline, you'd bounce off the rev limiter, LOL. Anyways, on the first pass I made with his 350Z, I spun first bad, hit the rev limiter in first gear, twice in second gear, once in third gear and still almost trapped 101mph.

I also have video of my 282hp, ~3900lb stock 540I putting almost 3 cars on that very same 350Z from a 40 roll. Yeah, I'd say a good driver can make up alot of mph between several gear changes.
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Originally Posted by matty
a 2.00 is hardily awesome driving by the way.
On original tires from 1993 that had dry rotted from storage, complete with flat spots and dry rot cracking on the sidewalls? The tires were hard as rock because the rubber was so dried out. You're right, that is hardly impressive times considering the condition the tires were in...

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