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Originally Posted by matty
indykid...not looking to start an arguement with you but there is soemthing to be said about the feel of a lightweight sports car. Have u driven an FD? i think u have.....arent they a blast?
I have many, many times. I actually thought about buying one, but I would need a 3 rotor.
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
I can't say I've driven an MK4 simply because F&F fucked up the value of the car. I won't even waste my time with it. I've driven everything from CRX's to Evo's and STi's, and I'm very happy with the cars that I chose to buy. You can stop swinging your e-***** now since I really don't give a **** about how fast your car is... in a straightline.
Why would you challenge the guy, but only do it if he de-tunes his car? I'll challenge you if you take off your turbo. Then we'll be similar with power-to-weight too.
Why would you challenge the guy, but only do it if he de-tunes his car? I'll challenge you if you take off your turbo. Then we'll be similar with power-to-weight too.
How did that movie affect the value? The rx7 was in that movie also. The mk4 has always been a higher valued car. When did you see me claim that my car was fast in a straight line? I said turns!! I also never said a damn thing about he *needed* to detune his car to run on a road track. And please explain to me the calculation of my car being as fast as yours if I take my turbo off? An n/a mk4 has 230hp and weight 3500 lbs. How is that the same?
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supra's arent as agile as an fd, simply because an fd is a hellofa lot smaller!
Plz dont come to our boards to start an argument about "whose car is better",
Supra's are great drag cars, but take a look at the fastest supra drag time I've seen? something like 8.5? take a look at the fastest 2 rotor rx7 drag time? something like 7.6? Dont quote me on any of this, I could be completely wrong, I'm just stating the fasts!
Supra's are fast, I admit, but dont come talking smack>< not on our boards~
Plz dont come to our boards to start an argument about "whose car is better",
Supra's are great drag cars, but take a look at the fastest supra drag time I've seen? something like 8.5? take a look at the fastest 2 rotor rx7 drag time? something like 7.6? Dont quote me on any of this, I could be completely wrong, I'm just stating the fasts!
Supra's are fast, I admit, but dont come talking smack>< not on our boards~
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You're right about the cost thing. Supra TT's started at $50k.
I shouldn't have brought up value anyway; I got a bit carried away.
All I was saying was that Supra's and Mustangs are chunky and it would be an interesting race between the two on a road course. I admire both cars ability to go fast in a straight line, but I have to disagree with you if you think that either car can do well on anything other than a drag strip. From what you were saying you think that your Supra that can "spin the tires at 100mph" would do well through the turns. Maybe, but only if you're comparing it against a 1k hp Mustang.
And for the record, my 173whp Celica spanks a local N/A MK4 regularly. There's more than a half-ton weight difference between the cars and he's not making much more to the wheels. So you're right there too. It wouldn't be fair if I asked to race you N/A. I should see if he'll let me drive his Supra one day just so I can see how it feels. I somehow doubt the high polar moment and 3500lbs will feel good.
EDIT: The 7.6 et was with a 4 rotor.
I shouldn't have brought up value anyway; I got a bit carried away.
All I was saying was that Supra's and Mustangs are chunky and it would be an interesting race between the two on a road course. I admire both cars ability to go fast in a straight line, but I have to disagree with you if you think that either car can do well on anything other than a drag strip. From what you were saying you think that your Supra that can "spin the tires at 100mph" would do well through the turns. Maybe, but only if you're comparing it against a 1k hp Mustang.
And for the record, my 173whp Celica spanks a local N/A MK4 regularly. There's more than a half-ton weight difference between the cars and he's not making much more to the wheels. So you're right there too. It wouldn't be fair if I asked to race you N/A. I should see if he'll let me drive his Supra one day just so I can see how it feels. I somehow doubt the high polar moment and 3500lbs will feel good.
EDIT: The 7.6 et was with a 4 rotor.
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The supra should decimate the mustang. Mustangs simply are not made to handle unless they are the Cobras. And even the cobras have a jerry-rigged IRS system.
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Originally Posted by Tenacious
supra's arent as agile as an fd, simply because an fd is a hellofa lot smaller!
Plz dont come to our boards to start an argument about "whose car is better",
Supra's are great drag cars, but take a look at the fastest supra drag time I've seen? something like 8.5? take a look at the fastest 2 rotor rx7 drag time? something like 7.6? Dont quote me on any of this, I could be completely wrong, I'm just stating the fasts!
Supra's are fast, I admit, but dont come talking smack>< not on our boards~
Plz dont come to our boards to start an argument about "whose car is better",
Supra's are great drag cars, but take a look at the fastest supra drag time I've seen? something like 8.5? take a look at the fastest 2 rotor rx7 drag time? something like 7.6? Dont quote me on any of this, I could be completely wrong, I'm just stating the fasts!
Supra's are fast, I admit, but dont come talking smack>< not on our boards~
Normally I wouldn't name call, but for you I'm going make an acception. You my friend are an idiot. Have you looked at my join date post count? I bet that I have got more seat time and know more about fd's than you. So don't start that bullshit with me about coming to a public forum.
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Here is a link to a local rx7 club that I'm a member of. Make sure you check out the video section.
http://www.radkinsrx7.com
http://www.radkinsrx7.com
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All arguing aside, what does your Supra run in the 1/4? Have you taken it to a track?
Before I was simply saying they don't handle, but in all honesty I love the car.
EDIT: I just checked the video section and saw that you own a Porsche too. How can you drive a Porsche and still think the Supra handles well? Have you completely redone the suspension and gutted the car beyond belief? Seriously, I'm curious to know since you obviously have the experience with other cars that are more suited to handling.
Before I was simply saying they don't handle, but in all honesty I love the car.
EDIT: I just checked the video section and saw that you own a Porsche too. How can you drive a Porsche and still think the Supra handles well? Have you completely redone the suspension and gutted the car beyond belief? Seriously, I'm curious to know since you obviously have the experience with other cars that are more suited to handling.
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With drivers being equal,i would bet the farm on indys supra against that mustang on a road course!If they decide to do it i will give 3-1 odds and i will take the supra,anybody want some of this? indy,i will split the winnings with you.
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Not real sure about the 1/4 I'm not really that type of racer, however the car should be in the 10's with a trap of 127+,ph on pump gas. Here is my current mod list for the supra.
97 limited edition.SP61mm single turbo, hks front mount intercooler, hks evc boost controller, hks ssqv blow valve, hks dli twin ignition system, apexi exhaust, water injection kit, fjo wideband, hp 6 puck feramic clutch, AEM, 40mm eibach springs, adk adjustable shocks, ap racing 6 piston calipurs and 15" rotors, strut braces front and rear, titan racing sway bars, momo racing pedals, hks short shifter, TRD carbon fiber hood, bomex front spliter, and carbon fiber dash. Custom red leather interior.
97 limited edition.SP61mm single turbo, hks front mount intercooler, hks evc boost controller, hks ssqv blow valve, hks dli twin ignition system, apexi exhaust, water injection kit, fjo wideband, hp 6 puck feramic clutch, AEM, 40mm eibach springs, adk adjustable shocks, ap racing 6 piston calipurs and 15" rotors, strut braces front and rear, titan racing sway bars, momo racing pedals, hks short shifter, TRD carbon fiber hood, bomex front spliter, and carbon fiber dash. Custom red leather interior.
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I've also owned a 996 carrera, zr1 corvette and a few others. There is a reason the mk4 stands a little taller than the other cars. It just seems to be good at everything.
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i think a race is useless unless the cars were bone stock.
are we talking about the better car or the better driver? and even if we talk about the "better" car, it's useless because what's great for one person is crap for someone else.
instead of a race, everyone should just get together and roll.
are we talking about the better car or the better driver? and even if we talk about the "better" car, it's useless because what's great for one person is crap for someone else.
instead of a race, everyone should just get together and roll.
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Originally Posted by 2MCHPWR
indykid, what tracks do you frequent? i open track with my buddy nick with black supra; we go to pocono. he makes about 430 rwhp.
Indianapolis race way park, putnam park, ginger man, mid ohio. I think that I'll go to VIR this year. Don't think I know Nick. Is he on SF?
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Indy bud, don't let me down I don't know if we've ever directly chatted at SF but I think I've seen you around there. I'm the same everywhere, Nick 95 6sp, even here but I lurk and read here and haven't posted until my buddy with too much power mentioned my name and my ears were burning. My lurking here is due to my irrational desire to also have an FD with an LS7 crate motor.
I'm sure there are 'stangs that could hand me my ***, but now I'm remembering one a bunch of guys had at Pocono last year, it was stripped out and hardcore set up for road racing. After I blew by him a few times and I went up to him in the paddock to shake hands and say I had fun, the younger guys with him were whispering too loud "why did you let him pass you?" hahhaaahaaa
I'm sure a lot of people who haven't had first hand experience with a Supra on a road course would suspect that because they are fat pigs, about 3500lbs unless you go on a serious and difficult weight loss program, they may not handle all that well. Not true. And of course power is simply based on how far you want to go with it. Indy's setup with a smallish turbo is ideal for road courses. I'm still on stock twins but running higher boost and it's a very nice combination for twisties. Just this week I ordered a few parts starting to put together a smallish to medium turbo etc to step it up ...so I can keep up with my bud 2MCHPWR
I'm sure there are 'stangs that could hand me my ***, but now I'm remembering one a bunch of guys had at Pocono last year, it was stripped out and hardcore set up for road racing. After I blew by him a few times and I went up to him in the paddock to shake hands and say I had fun, the younger guys with him were whispering too loud "why did you let him pass you?" hahhaaahaaa
I'm sure a lot of people who haven't had first hand experience with a Supra on a road course would suspect that because they are fat pigs, about 3500lbs unless you go on a serious and difficult weight loss program, they may not handle all that well. Not true. And of course power is simply based on how far you want to go with it. Indy's setup with a smallish turbo is ideal for road courses. I'm still on stock twins but running higher boost and it's a very nice combination for twisties. Just this week I ordered a few parts starting to put together a smallish to medium turbo etc to step it up ...so I can keep up with my bud 2MCHPWR
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nick!!! we were evenly matched when i had my firebird. but now i switched camps and have 600 lbs less, better weight distribution, more torque (20 ft/lbs), but worse shox and springs and tires (for now) and 18 less hp. lookin forward to some more good "battles" this season.
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I'm sure it'll be fun this year too, I love playing on the track and you're a very good driver so that makes it more fun. If you're faster now, like I think you should be, it'll give me something to shoot for. Just this week I ordered the first part of my turbo kit, an exhaust manifold, wastegate, a few pipes; now I'm trying to narrow down the turbo and pick the fuel system; probably going with HKS FconPro for management; to replace my stock ECU I already bought a gForce ECU with 8k rev limit and it has a few other tweeks; when complete and tuned this should add at least 150whp for me in road racing trim, over 200whp if I'm just going for power.
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All this chatter is useless....Like G-junkie said.. Any car can be made to compete against any car.. A station wagon can blow your supra away if put together to do so.. Stupid B.S. chatter.. All the cars mentioned here have their own unique characteristics. It is gay to be one track minded just because you support a particular brand. This is all for fun.. Why not have some.. Garret....
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