SRT-10 viper
11-07-06, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by turbodrx7
Not trashing on you or your car. But if you trap 110 your car isnt gonna hang within a few cars of a viper on the highway. I ran into one who said he trapped 119 with a 98 gts with intake and exhaust...which would put right at probably lower power than that srt10. I trap 121 with my 40r and i ran right next to him..he might have been in a lower gear or just not used to it and not running it out. But no matter...that is a kill...and a nice one!
11-07-06, 05:57 PM
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I'm by no means a hater and had a modified FD for over 5 years. I've just got a hard time believing your stock twins could keep up considering the specs:
Motor Trend (Issue Dec-05)
8.3 L, V-10, 6 speed Manual
Horsepower 510
Ft lbs torque 525
0-60 4.20 sec.
1/4 Mile 12.37 sec.
Skidpad 1.00 g.
Curb Weight 3450 lbs
Motor Trend (Issue Dec-05)
8.3 L, V-10, 6 speed Manual
Horsepower 510
Ft lbs torque 525
0-60 4.20 sec.
1/4 Mile 12.37 sec.
Skidpad 1.00 g.
Curb Weight 3450 lbs
11-07-06, 08:10 PM
#30
Originally Posted by niburu
especially when you consider my FD weighs 3200lbs and my FC weighs a whopping 3600 lbs (I just went outside and checked the door frame stickers)
it's real easy to hate on a car when you don't know it's true abilities and specs
only highly modded FD's keep up with these beasts
it's real easy to hate on a car when you don't know it's true abilities and specs
only highly modded FD's keep up with these beasts
11-08-06, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bricke
I'm by no means a hater and had a modified FD for over 5 years. I've just got a hard time believing your stock twins could keep up considering the specs:
Motor Trend (Issue Dec-05)
8.3 L, V-10, 6 speed Manual
Horsepower 510
Ft lbs torque 525
0-60 4.20 sec.
1/4 Mile 12.37 sec.
Skidpad 1.00 g.
Curb Weight 3450 lbs
Motor Trend (Issue Dec-05)
8.3 L, V-10, 6 speed Manual
Horsepower 510
Ft lbs torque 525
0-60 4.20 sec.
1/4 Mile 12.37 sec.
Skidpad 1.00 g.
Curb Weight 3450 lbs
11-08-06, 04:16 PM
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11-08-06, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
LOL! an FD weighing 3200 pounds?? jesus, what this forum is coming to.
Also, rx7.com has gotten an FD to run in the high 11s on stock twins, so it is possible.
Also, rx7.com has gotten an FD to run in the high 11s on stock twins, so it is possible.
11-09-06, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
dude....alot of people run 11s on stock twins. i am gonna sunday! hehhe.
11-09-06, 09:33 PM
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Guys, regarding the weight issue: A FAT @$$ FD MIGHT WEIGH MORE THAN 3200#
Nice kill homie. Your car looks good too. Lovin the stockish look. Props to you for self-tuning too. Maybe you can teach me a thing or two
Nice kill homie. Your car looks good too. Lovin the stockish look. Props to you for self-tuning too. Maybe you can teach me a thing or two
11-09-06, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Plus, ive watched the LeMans race, for the past 10 years. Dodge Vipers run that race, and dont do too bad, rather, didnt do too bad, till they stopped getting manufacturer support. The problem they have though, is that their *** end was always heavy, if you got it swung out, youre spinning, more than likely.
Im not trying to flame you, but look up and know what youre talking about it, before you speak.
Theres always someone thats gotta hate on a nice kill. Keep it up man, It is definitely possible under the right conditions.
Im not trying to flame you, but look up and know what youre talking about it, before you speak.
Theres always someone thats gotta hate on a nice kill. Keep it up man, It is definitely possible under the right conditions.
So you've been watching Le Mans since you were 8 years old? I'm impressed. I don't know where you got the idea that the guy was "hatin on a nice kill." Looks more like he was correcting you.
11-10-06, 06:55 AM
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Good lord people. Other then weight distro, there are a ton of reasons Vipers have such bad traction issues.... but like anything else, you can help it out with aftermarket parts. It's a Viper trade mark to do massive burn outs and kill it's driver. Check out some of the awsome wrecks people have in them at under 50 MPH.
Now, staying with an SRT10 really isn't as impossible as you might think at certain speeds. The big thing about Vipers is that they have loads of power, but they have always had a hard time making the car well rounded. In the case of a lot of the Vipers, they wanted such a long pull, the car pulls hard past 100MPH, but it's kind of steady going to try to get to 190MPH. Now, a lighter car has an easier time accelerating, and an FD3 is a lighter car. Also in the favor of the FD3 is the gear ratios that intended to get the car to 150ish in a hurry. The RX-7 will pull better for gear ratios because it's not stretching it's gears out to reach a higher speed. When you combine those gear ratios with a car that is generating more power then normal, it's quite possible to have a close matchup. Remember, the speeds we are talking about are not high enough to be out of the RX-7's mid band, but are below the mid band of the Viper.
Now it would be a very different story if you tried this at 140MPH roll on to 190MPH.
Now, staying with an SRT10 really isn't as impossible as you might think at certain speeds. The big thing about Vipers is that they have loads of power, but they have always had a hard time making the car well rounded. In the case of a lot of the Vipers, they wanted such a long pull, the car pulls hard past 100MPH, but it's kind of steady going to try to get to 190MPH. Now, a lighter car has an easier time accelerating, and an FD3 is a lighter car. Also in the favor of the FD3 is the gear ratios that intended to get the car to 150ish in a hurry. The RX-7 will pull better for gear ratios because it's not stretching it's gears out to reach a higher speed. When you combine those gear ratios with a car that is generating more power then normal, it's quite possible to have a close matchup. Remember, the speeds we are talking about are not high enough to be out of the RX-7's mid band, but are below the mid band of the Viper.
Now it would be a very different story if you tried this at 140MPH roll on to 190MPH.
11-10-06, 08:53 AM
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Who cares man, Vipers cant corner for ****. Race him on a togue like in Japan and leave him behined like RE-Amemmiya in thier Sequential TT making around 380ps did to a 600ps GTR.
If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc
If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc
11-10-06, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ICE_Pilot
Who cares man, Vipers cant corner for ****. Race him on a togue like in Japan and leave him behined like RE-Amemmiya in thier Sequential TT making around 380ps did to a 600ps GTR.
If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc
If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc
11-10-06, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ICE_Pilot
Who cares man, Vipers cant corner for ****. Race him on a togue like in Japan and leave him behined like RE-Amemmiya in thier Sequential TT making around 380ps did to a 600ps GTR.
If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc
If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc
11-10-06, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by turbodrx7
Not trashing on you or your car. But if you trap 110 your car isnt gonna hang within a few cars of a viper on the highway.
110 trap? That isn't going to touch a new viper, or even an older one...
I don't even think you should really be saying that was a kill. That is more like he was playing with you, and he probably had a lot of pedal left. Those things can lay down rubber in 3rd and 4th gears on the highway.
11-10-06, 03:49 PM
#45
Originally Posted by flyerII
110 trap? That isn't going to touch a new viper, or even an older one...
I don't even think you should really be saying that was a kill. That is more like he was playing with you, and he probably had a lot of pedal left. Those things can lay down rubber in 3rd and 4th gears on the highway.
My 110mph trap was at .75 bar or roughly 11psi of boost. I was running around 1 bar when I found him. And he wasn't toying with me. He said he was on it hard. That's why he motioned for me to pull over to talk to me. It was bone stock, and he was test driving it.
11-10-06, 10:37 PM
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Plenty of stock twins cars have taken out vipers, it's not that difficult with mods. For those of you who doubt it please turn off your computer and go play with your X box, it's past your bed time anyhow.
11-11-06, 12:00 AM
#48
Originally Posted by windom
I beg you to please read the whole thread.
My 110mph trap was at .75 bar or roughly 11psi of boost. I was running around 1 bar when I found him. And he wasn't toying with me. He said he was on it hard. That's why he motioned for me to pull over to talk to me. It was bone stock, and he was test driving it.
My 110mph trap was at .75 bar or roughly 11psi of boost. I was running around 1 bar when I found him. And he wasn't toying with me. He said he was on it hard. That's why he motioned for me to pull over to talk to me. It was bone stock, and he was test driving it.
I think the guy in the viper didnt know how to drive.
-Austin
11-11-06, 12:05 AM
#49
Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
Plenty of stock twins cars have taken out vipers, it's not that difficult with mods. For those of you who doubt it please turn off your computer and go play with your X box, it's past your bed time anyhow.
-Austin
11-11-06, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by turbodrx7
On the highway? Come on now, twins FD's just dont have the mph on 14-15psi. Maybe you should go play your X box?
-Austin
-Austin
Plenty have trapped 120 plus on the twins. Brooks Weisnblat trapped 120 plus on 14 psi on a hot Floida day, as a matter of fact 11.4 @ 120.40. Anthony from T@R trapped ~123 on the twins.
Boosted7...
Ported-motor/stock twins/pump gas*
-10.98 @ 122.9mph
-11.08 @ 125.3mph
New Z06's which are faster than Vipers have gone down to tt cars.