I trap 110 @ .75 bar when it's 40F out, which is basically 11psi. I was running 1 bar when I raced him. He downshifted, gave it his all he said. I don't know what that 98 GTS had, but I'm assuming the guy knew how to drive the hell out of it. Remember, SRT-10's put out 430RWHP on a dynojet.

 

The only timeslip I could find in my mess of papers on my desk was my first timeslip EVER. My trapspeeds are pretty consistent, but my ET went WAY down with practice. It's the circled one.

 

I'm by no means a hater and had a modified FD for over 5 years. I've just got a hard time believing your stock twins could keep up considering the specs:

Motor Trend (Issue Dec-05)

8.3 L, V-10, 6 speed Manual
Horsepower 510
Ft lbs torque 525
0-60 4.20 sec.
1/4 Mile 12.37 sec.
Skidpad 1.00 g.
Curb Weight 3450 lbs

 

I would call the viper driver not good.. I was ***- raped a while ago. 3rd was not to bad but 4th he was pulling away. G

 

I'm not sure why those numbers are stamped on the VIN plate like that, my friends 94 PEP says the same thing(3200lbs), but if you read the third gen section, you'll see a guy just weighed his stock FD base with 2 gallons of gas, and after his math for adding in the extra 18 gallons and minus the extra turbos he was carrying, his car weighed 2780lbs w/o driver. And his car hasn't had weight reduction.

 

a stock twin car could def beat a 12.37 viper. MY problem was with the civic. he said its a high 11 sec car, did u watch the video? he pulled it like it wasnt racing him.

 

LOL! an FD weighing 3200 pounds?? jesus, what this forum is coming to.

Also, rx7.com has gotten an FD to run in the high 11s on stock twins, so it is possible.

 

dude....alot of people run 11s on stock twins. i am gonna sunday! hehhe.

 

There was that video that (I think) boosted7 posted in the 3rd gen dyno/time-slip section of a stock twins FD hitting a 10.99. It was a while ago and it wasn't there last time I checked... The FD was white if anyone has that vid.

 

You have to remember. That viper et is on stock tread. Put some drag radials or a drag oriented tire set-up on it and times will drop. I ran that 2006 srt 10 and it was almost three cars by 140. My car felt good to. No brake boost though. G

 

Guys, regarding the weight issue: A FAT @$$ FD MIGHT WEIGH MORE THAN 3200#

Nice kill homie. Your car looks good too. Lovin the stockish look. Props to you for self-tuning too. Maybe you can teach me a thing or two

 

So you've been watching Le Mans since you were 8 years old? I'm impressed. I don't know where you got the idea that the guy was "hatin on a nice kill." Looks more like he was correcting you.

 

Good lord people. Other then weight distro, there are a ton of reasons Vipers have such bad traction issues.... but like anything else, you can help it out with aftermarket parts. It's a Viper trade mark to do massive burn outs and kill it's driver. Check out some of the awsome wrecks people have in them at under 50 MPH.

Now, staying with an SRT10 really isn't as impossible as you might think at certain speeds. The big thing about Vipers is that they have loads of power, but they have always had a hard time making the car well rounded. In the case of a lot of the Vipers, they wanted such a long pull, the car pulls hard past 100MPH, but it's kind of steady going to try to get to 190MPH. Now, a lighter car has an easier time accelerating, and an FD3 is a lighter car. Also in the favor of the FD3 is the gear ratios that intended to get the car to 150ish in a hurry. The RX-7 will pull better for gear ratios because it's not stretching it's gears out to reach a higher speed. When you combine those gear ratios with a car that is generating more power then normal, it's quite possible to have a close matchup. Remember, the speeds we are talking about are not high enough to be out of the RX-7's mid band, but are below the mid band of the Viper.

Now it would be a very different story if you tried this at 140MPH roll on to 190MPH.

 

you didn't beat ****.. and if you think you won, thats cause the viper driver felt sorry for you... i'm sorry, but welcome to reality...

 

Who cares man, Vipers cant corner for ****. Race him on a togue like in Japan and leave him behined like RE-Amemmiya in thier Sequential TT making around 380ps did to a 600ps GTR.

If you guys dont know what Im talking about check this link.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc

 

vipers handle.

 

the comparison you just made explains jack about the thread subject... and why must everyone make excuses why a rx7 should beat every damn car on the road?

 

110 trap? That isn't going to touch a new viper, or even an older one...

I don't even think you should really be saying that was a kill. That is more like he was playing with you, and he probably had a lot of pedal left. Those things can lay down rubber in 3rd and 4th gears on the highway.

 

 

I beg you to please read the whole thread.

My 110mph trap was at .75 bar or roughly 11psi of boost. I was running around 1 bar when I found him. And he wasn't toying with me. He said he was on it hard. That's why he motioned for me to pull over to talk to me. It was bone stock, and he was test driving it.

 

^^

 

Plenty of stock twins cars have taken out vipers, it's not that difficult with mods. For those of you who doubt it please turn off your computer and go play with your X box, it's past your bed time anyhow.

 

So with you on 1 bar i am going to say that you trap 115 mph. I went 115 on my twins with basically every bolt on at 14 psi. That still puts you probably 5mph slower than the viper, which one the highway is a pretty significant difference. I have a buddy with a supra that traps 126 and i go 121mph now, and from a 60 roll to the middle of 4th gear he has me by 3 cars. That should give you an idea.
I think the guy in the viper didnt know how to drive.

-Austin

 

On the highway? Come on now, twins FD's just dont have the mph on 14-15psi. Maybe you should go play your X box?

-Austin

 

Funny stuff... I have had friends with Vipers and they are all SLOWER than my car was with stock twins.

Plenty have trapped 120 plus on the twins. Brooks Weisnblat trapped 120 plus on 14 psi on a hot Floida day, as a matter of fact 11.4 @ 120.40. Anthony from T@R trapped ~123 on the twins.

Boosted7...
Ported-motor/stock twins/pump gas*
-10.98 @ 122.9mph
-11.08 @ 125.3mph


New Z06's which are faster than Vipers have gone down to tt cars.