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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Right........... So since they are rated at 320 hp, are you saying that they are underrated and actually produce 353 hp BONE STOCK??? (assuming a generous 15% driveline loss)

Or maybe you are saying that the loss through the driveshaft, diff, axles and wheels is only 6% ????

( Average is 15-20% in RWD cars )
Wow, bite my head off! Is it that hard to believe tha a 3.0 ltre with twin turbos at 12 psi might just possibly produce over 320bhp? Anyway, reiterating what Stangkilr said - I have only heard a few times of people saying mkiv's were underrated from the factory. I don't know much about that. What I do know is that mkiv's lost less than (<) 15% through the driveline. Also, take into account the miliage on these cars that dyno bone stock. I personally have seen a 299.3rwhp and 299.5rwtq BONE STOCK mkiv.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Outkast
Damn that is pretty impressive. Was the weight underrated also? J/K

On a serious note, what is the official average good 1/4 mile time for a stock TT 6 speed Poopra? I wont ask on Suckraforums because there it is 13.2 with FDs running 14.5..........Thanks for the info
If you can dig up some old car and driver or motortrend mags from 1993 - I believe they test drove the mkiv and came up with a 4.6 0-60 and a 13.1 1/4 mile stock. The mkiv can break into 12s with slicks and a very good driver, though. Its been done. Yea, some of those guys on supraforums don't know what the hell they're talking about.

edit: the #s for the mkiv when they tested it might have been from a modified ecu and alittle upped boost, but then again toyota had mentioned that the powertrain was "frozen" for public sale. so who knows...

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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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i love supra's and always will... i always wanted one and one day will.....when someday i am making big bucks and can afford the price of just a stock one.... god damn fast and the furious bull ****. but i love my fd and will always keep it... considering that it is payed for. But yea i would love to see that damn video so please post that **** dog.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:49 AM
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i love supra's and always will... i always wanted one and one day will.....when someday i am making big bucks and can afford the price of just a stock one.... god damn fast and the furious bull ****. but i love my fd and will always keep it... considering that it is payed for. But yea i would love to see that damn video so please post that **** dog.
funny whenever i drive my fd i get some stupid *** questions..
here are some examples:

"Is that the car from the Fast and the Furious?"
"Is that a porsche?"

i agree on the supras, they are very nice cars, but still damn expensive!!
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedFD
funny whenever i drive my fd i get some stupid *** questions..
here are some examples:

"Is that the car from the Fast and the Furious?"
"Is that a porsche?"

i agree on the supras, they are very nice cars, but still damn expensive!!
for me its:

"why is your car all shitty looking"
"is that a mustang"
"is that a probe"
"why is there a big drop vent in your hood"
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by stangkilr
also lined up with an evo that traps 117 and pulled him quite nicely...

-Charlie

Charlie your a funny guy.......

You did pull on me cept you forgot to mention that i was on pump gas @ 20psi with 4 people in the car (extra 600 pounds). probably trapping 105.

I did trap 117 on race gas @26psi last season.

Nice run though.

How about we go from a stop brother?


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slowEVO
Charlie your a funny guy.......

You did pull on me cept you forgot to mention that i was on pump gas @ 20psi with 4 people in the car (extra 600 pounds). probably trapping 105.

I did trap 117 on race gas @26psi last season.

Nice run though.

How about we go from a stop brother?


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Excuses, excuses. Ever hear the saying "run what ya brung?" Charlie was also running pump gas but only 15psi of boost, 5 pounds less than you. So if anything, you had the advantage. Face it, you have a slow car, son. Vids will be up soon.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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the whole crew is in on it now...

i'll race u from a stop...backwards...
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 9SecondS4
Ever hear the saying "run what ya brung?"
What car did you have that night marc?


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkilr
i'll race u from a stop...backwards...
in the snow?

This sunday if i have my car i want to run the turbo is300. i was gonna post on the is boards about how he is scared of a stock evo econobox.


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 9SecondS4
Charlie was also running pump gas but only 15psi of boost, 5 pounds less than you. So if anything, you had the advantage. Face it, you have a slow car, son. Vids will be up soon.
Are you charlie's spokeperson mister? get off his dick bro.

Advantage? yea 5 psi more and 2000 pds more. thats quite an advantage.


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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2000lbs more? haha...so your saying with 4 people u would weigh in at 5200lbs...
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkilr
2000lbs more? haha...so your saying with 4 people u would weigh in at 5200lbs...
. Nah car was probably weighing 4000 pounds.

charlie how much does yur car weigh? j/w


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkilr
2000lbs more? haha...so your saying with 4 people u would weigh in at 5200lbs...
That's some funny ****... Was he piloting an Evo or an 18 wheeler? Aww hell, they're both so slow, what's the difference anyway?
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slowEVO
Charlie your a funny guy.......

You did pull on me cept you forgot to mention that i was on pump gas @ 20psi with 4 people in the car (extra 600 pounds). probably trapping 105.

I did trap 117 on race gas @26psi last season.

Nice run though.

How about we go from a stop brother?


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Jesus!!!! 26psi and only a trap of 117. You need to drive that thing more learn how to shift or get better tires or something. Is your car a 6speed or auto?
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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It's a 6spd... New Evo MR tranny he put in after his other one grenaded. This kid's got all the bells and whistles and still loses to an RX7 running 15psi through a tiny *** turbo.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Jesus!!!! 26psi and only a trap of 117. You need to drive that thing more learn how to shift or get better tires or something. Is your car a 6speed or auto?
your an idiot. end of story.

I drive an 03 evo. its neither a auto or 6 speed.

car spikes to 26psi and tapers to 20psi at redline.

guess 1.7 60' foots (on stock clutch) are no good and neither are 11.80 timeslips. i really do need to learn how to drive.


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Why is he an idiot? There are plenty of Evos out there that are 6 speed.

Shouldn't somebody be loading up a parts truck right now instead of playing on the "interweb?"
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Check your PMs Rabbi...
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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your an idiot. end of story.

I drive an 03 evo. its neither a auto or 6 speed.

car spikes to 26psi and tapers to 20psi at redline.

guess 1.7 60' foots (on stock clutch) are no good and neither are 11.80 timeslips. i really do need to learn how to drive.


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Let's not start the name calling newbie.

My bad, I thought you where the supra guy.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Haha, he wishes he had a Supra.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 9SecondS4
Haha, he wishes he had a Supra.
yea like yours.....

red with a blown tranny. want to run the supra with me tonight son?


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Funny thing is even without 3rd gear, I'd still beat you. So why don't you put your money where your big Jewish nose is and we'll lock it in for tonight...
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Wow, holy battle of the n00bs!


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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I wouldn't exactly say we're n00bs... I personally have had my senior license for nearly a year now.

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