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Old 08-11-05, 12:40 PM
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RX7 R1 vs. BMW 328is vs. Camaro Z28

Alrite, so this all starts out with me (93 RX7 R1) on my way home going west on I-90 just before the tunnels...you WA people know what I'm talking about...anyway, I check the mirror and see two sets of headlights bombing up behind me.

FANTASTIC!!! Possibly my first race in the new FD. I drop it in to third just in time to catch up with these two (red Camaro Z28 and a black E36 328is).

We are all about even through third and into fourth going about 120mph. We enter the tunnels and the 328is drops back behind a car and the Camaro and I go at it through the twisties.

Nearing the end of the I-90 tunnel I'm holding my position about a car length ahead of the Camaro, check my left side mirror just in time to see the 328is bombing up bimmer style through the curves.

The 328is passes both of us about 110mph on the last curve and we all go WOT on to the bridge. As we hit the end of the bridge, the 328is is about 2 cars ahead of the Camaro and the Camaro about 2 cars ahead of me and no one is pulling on anyone. DEAD EVEN!! And by this point all of us are smashing at about 140mph.

I let off and let the Camaro and the 328is keep it up as I coast slowly to a blistering 60mph!

*side note: I'm running low boost and stock cat instead of my test pipe because I had to pass emissions...That was also my first high speed run!
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How sad, your fd should br pulling both of those.
Old 08-12-05, 02:24 PM
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You're happy? Uhh...you must have a crucial boost leak or something...or you shift HORRIBLY. You shoulda SPANKED those cars, BADLY.
Old 08-12-05, 02:38 PM
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Yea, low boost (7 psi) and I have the stock cat on...plus they were both modded, most definitely the 328is.

I have greddy smic, pettit unlimited ecu, and profec b spec II on the way

and ****....i just bought the damn car a few days ago!



thanks for the positive responses
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
You're happy? Uhh...you must have a crucial boost leak or something...or you shift HORRIBLY. You shoulda SPANKED those cars, BADLY.
You never know what those suckers have though...
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yeah but who said other cars were stock
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an LS1 Z28 should be able to hang in the straight line with an FD
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yea, i obviously wasnt taking it to the limit on the curves...my bad
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Originally Posted by wrx19
yea, i obviously wasnt taking it to the limit on the curves...my bad

Not at all.....
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Originally Posted by arghx
an LS1 Z28 should be able to hang in the straight line with an FD
Very true, a lightly modded LS1 will put you in the 12's all day.
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but an FD is a MOnsTA in the Twisties
Old 08-15-05, 02:08 AM
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Oh yea...I'm just starting to get used to how much grip there is in deh twisteeez
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nice death
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Originally Posted by wrx19
Oh yea...I'm just starting to get used to how much grip there is in deh twisteeez
Seriously, I find myself understeering in corners, so I won't spin out, but I think i'm really underestimating FD's capabilities on RT-615s. It's scary how well this thing turns.

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but an FD is a MOnsTA in the Twisties
Yeah true, but I think it'd be interesting to see a uphill match between z06 w/ suspension vs FD w/ suspension. I wouldn't be so quick to bet my money on this match. What do you guys think?

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Old 08-15-05, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kim307
Yeah true, but I think it'd be interesting to see a uphill match between z06 w/ suspension vs FD w/ suspension. I wouldn't be so quick to bet my money on this match. What do you guys think?
Maybe you should make another thread in the General Auto section so this guy's thread doesn't get whored out.
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Nice kill.
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Damn, i spanked a bimmer m3 by atleast 10 cars from a dig. And i wasnt even moving threw first
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Originally Posted by arghx
an LS1 Z28 should be able to hang in the straight line with an FD
3rd and 4th gen F-bods with slight suspension mods will definetly hang, or rape, a FD in "dA tWisties". My Volvo wagon might even hang with you...it has some mods, to
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Originally Posted by quick_brick
3rd and 4th gen F-bods with slight suspension mods will definetly hang, or rape, a FD in "dA tWisties". My Volvo wagon might even hang with you...it has some mods, to
ahahahahahhahaha!!!! havent laughed that hard in a long time.....
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good ****, must of been alot of fun?
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sounds like a fun race.

I dont see how the E36 came up so fast. I kill E46 M3s in my Z28 all day long on the highway ( but not in the twisties yo)
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wait u said low boost 7lbs? is this on stock turbos? yeah like fdnewbie said u must have a leak or something
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Originally Posted by DannyD
ahahahahahhahaha!!!! havent laughed that hard in a long time.....
really? maybe the volvo part..that IS a joke but not the information about the camaro. a BONE STOCK 91' RS Camaro (F41 Pkg) has been shown to out slalom a 99' Corvette. Once more, the stock RS (F41) pulled .88g's on the skid, pretty impressive for a base model car. once modded, the same car pulled .95 on the skidpad. Thats just springs and shocks and tires and Z28 sway bars; with more extensive mods, these same cars have yanked over 1.00g's on the skidpad. Keep in mind the 99' vette pulls .91g's on the skidpad. I'd like to know who started spreading the dis-information that domestic cars can't handle, but they most certainly can. I love RX-7's, all gens, but it just pisses me off that people think that f-bodys and other domestics can't handle. i'm not about drag racing, that is basicly a never ending pissing contest...
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Originally Posted by quick_brick
Once more, the stock RS (F41) pulled .88g's on the skid, pretty impressive for a base model car. once modded, the same car pulled .95 on the skidpad. Thats just springs and shocks and tires and Z28 sway bars; with more extensive mods, these same cars have yanked over 1.00g's on the skidpad. Keep in mind the 99' vette pulls .91g's on the skidpad. i'm not about drag racing, that is basicly a never ending pissing contest...
didn't a stock r1 pull .98 or .99 g's when it was first tested? i don't think everyone thinks a camaro can't handle, just that an fd is tough to match even with a stock suspension. i can tell you for sure that my 94 is easier to drive fast in the corners than my friends c5. the c5 may ultimately have a higher limit, but that doesn't mean it handles better.
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Originally Posted by legal-z
didn't a stock r1 pull .98 or .99 g's when it was first tested? i don't think everyone thinks a camaro can't handle, just that an fd is tough to match even with a stock suspension. i can tell you for sure that my 94 is easier to drive fast in the corners than my friends c5. the c5 may ultimately have a higher limit, but that doesn't mean it handles better.
exactly. but lets compare apples with apples here...the 3rd gen camaro started it's design process in the late seventies...the FD has alot newer technolgy and engineering standards. Lets compare a 91' RS Camaro and a 91' FC...the 91' Camaro pulls .88g's stock, and the FC pulls .89g's stock. The FC benefits from being 300 pounds lighter than the camaro. And, pardon me on the comment about 4th gen f-bod's, they are just fast pigs :P


american cars CAN handle!


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