NSX - Not much of a fight
03-13-07, 02:17 PM
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NSX's are nice cars, but lets not start making it the "rich mans ride." You can grab a good looking one for around 30gs nowadays. Plenty of people on this forum choose the RX over the NSX all day long.
Nice looking car, reliable, slow, unibody (one little bump...cyaaa).
Credit for the kill, but I agree with most of the points above that older guys in cars like these get real tired of everyone turning around on empty roads and chasing them down.
Nice looking car, reliable, slow, unibody (one little bump...cyaaa).
Credit for the kill, but I agree with most of the points above that older guys in cars like these get real tired of everyone turning around on empty roads and chasing them down.
03-15-07, 07:21 PM
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Haha. Most of the Rx-7's around my parts have exhaust that sound just as loud if not worse than the ricer Hondas that buzz around. An NSX is a very nice & respectable car, and that was a good kill for 3rdGenJeremy, but "teaching those ********" doesn't make you sound like any less of one.
The owners that do fork out the money for an NSX have paid enough to buy a nicely modded FD, but apparently chose not to. I guess they deserve the title *******.
Modded NSX's perform at extraordinary levels. Look at Adam Saruwatari's NSX for example. The original 3.2 liter motor has already proven itself as a compotent dragster, with specs at 1093hp @ 8600 RPM & 680ft.-lbs @ 6500 RPM running 7.39@ 175 mph in the 1/4. I guess he's an ******* for putting out that effort....
The owners that do fork out the money for an NSX have paid enough to buy a nicely modded FD, but apparently chose not to. I guess they deserve the title *******.
Modded NSX's perform at extraordinary levels. Look at Adam Saruwatari's NSX for example. The original 3.2 liter motor has already proven itself as a compotent dragster, with specs at 1093hp @ 8600 RPM & 680ft.-lbs @ 6500 RPM running 7.39@ 175 mph in the 1/4. I guess he's an ******* for putting out that effort....
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03-15-07, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7henry
Haha. Most of the Rx-7's around my parts have exhaust that sound just as loud if not worse than the ricer Hondas that buzz around. An NSX is a very nice & respectable car, and that was a good kill for 3rdGenJeremy, but "teaching those ********" doesn't make you sound like any less of one.
The owners that do fork out the money for an NSX have paid enough to buy a nicely modded FD, but apparently chose not to. I guess they deserve the title *******.
Modded NSX's perform at extraordinary levels. Look at Adam Saruwatari's NSX for example. The original 3.2 liter motor has already proven itself as a compotent dragster, with specs at 1093hp @ 8600 RPM & 680ft.-lbs @ 6500 RPM running 7.39@ 175 mph in the 1/4. I guess he's an ******* for putting out that effort....
The owners that do fork out the money for an NSX have paid enough to buy a nicely modded FD, but apparently chose not to. I guess they deserve the title *******.
Modded NSX's perform at extraordinary levels. Look at Adam Saruwatari's NSX for example. The original 3.2 liter motor has already proven itself as a compotent dragster, with specs at 1093hp @ 8600 RPM & 680ft.-lbs @ 6500 RPM running 7.39@ 175 mph in the 1/4. I guess he's an ******* for putting out that effort....
And brouli, make sure to learn English before you try to talk down on someone or something next time. Why ask a question when you are going to answer it anyways?
Now to my standards, the NSX, and the S2000 for that matter, have proven to be way above the Honda standard. Both are well balanced cars that have more than proven themselves in racing. And I don't mean drag racing. The S2000 has really proven to be a awesome autocross car while still having the Honda reliability, and the NSX is extremely popular in the JGTC.
03-16-07, 05:49 PM
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Acceleration-wise I don't think you can do better than a awd turbo inline 6 rated at 280hp (dyno proves otherwise). The NSX-R and Rx-7 Spirit R are factory rated, but the GT-R seems to be the only one of the 3 that is underrated under the Japanese gentlemen's agreement. Handling-wise they will all do some floor mopping.
03-16-07, 06:04 PM
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NSX's aren't that great in a straight line. That's not really what they were built for. I can beat a NSX in my Automatic RX7 (if i wasn't afraid of blowing it up going WOT 
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03-16-07, 07:11 PM
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RX-7 still wins in endurance though.
I still can't figure out how they made something that is made of aluminum weigh 3200lbs though.
If mazda could make an oil metering system that works and improve fuel efficiency and drop it in something like a miata they'd kill the s2000 hands down, the only thing it has over the miata is the power.
As far as my opinion of the NSX goes, it looks like ven more of a copy of something european than the FC does and it's underpowered. It runs good 1/4 times because of its transmission and because of traction. It weighs more than an FD. I've never driven one but there's alot more exotic and alot more performance per dollar for an FD than an NSX.
As far as the dragster car, there is an RX-8 that is faster than that, and plans to go quite a bit faster. I can't wait to see it.Then again i dont like pulling up numbers of other peoples cars to argue.
There however, are WAY more people with fart canned honda's than rx-7s. There are far more hondas made and available from 78 - 07 than there are rx-7s, people put those ebay mufflers on civics accords i've even seen a system like that on an element.
I still can't figure out how they made something that is made of aluminum weigh 3200lbs though.
If mazda could make an oil metering system that works and improve fuel efficiency and drop it in something like a miata they'd kill the s2000 hands down, the only thing it has over the miata is the power.
As far as my opinion of the NSX goes, it looks like ven more of a copy of something european than the FC does and it's underpowered. It runs good 1/4 times because of its transmission and because of traction. It weighs more than an FD. I've never driven one but there's alot more exotic and alot more performance per dollar for an FD than an NSX.
As far as the dragster car, there is an RX-8 that is faster than that, and plans to go quite a bit faster. I can't wait to see it.Then again i dont like pulling up numbers of other peoples cars to argue.
There however, are WAY more people with fart canned honda's than rx-7s. There are far more hondas made and available from 78 - 07 than there are rx-7s, people put those ebay mufflers on civics accords i've even seen a system like that on an element.
03-16-07, 09:42 PM
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Haha, spoken in the words of a true rotary fanatic. I love FD's too, but some believe that the best car is the lightest. For the sake of power to weight ratio, that may be the case, but stability & touring wise, you wouldn't want your 2700lb car to crush like a can if you know what I mean. What it gains in weight reduction it loses in the ability to salvage torque, and thats just fact.
If there is to be arguing about how the FD is not indeed partially made for touring...then Mazda should hang itself for putting out a 'TOURING' model.
If there is to be arguing about how the FD is not indeed partially made for touring...then Mazda should hang itself for putting out a 'TOURING' model.
04-05-07, 07:52 PM
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nsx..... overpriced, underpowered..... that's pretty much it. yeah, they're nice, but for that much they damn well better be!!!! you still don't get as much bang for your buck with an nsx as with an fd. 
04-06-07, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7henry
Haha, spoken in the words of a true rotary fanatic. I love FD's too, but some believe that the best car is the lightest. For the sake of power to weight ratio, that may be the case, but stability & touring wise, you wouldn't want your 2700lb car to crush like a can if you know what I mean. What it gains in weight reduction it loses in the ability to salvage torque, and thats just fact.
If there is to be arguing about how the FD is not indeed partially made for touring...then Mazda should hang itself for putting out a 'TOURING' model.
If there is to be arguing about how the FD is not indeed partially made for touring...then Mazda should hang itself for putting out a 'TOURING' model.
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04-06-07, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
What are you talking about? 3rd Gen RX-7s have plenty of torque & the curb weight of the car has absolutely nothing to due with powerplant output. Salvaging torque? Funny stuff..... especially for a car that weighs as much as a microwave oven & runs twin sequential turbochargers. Drive a 3rd Gen - you will understand quickly. If you want even more torque, turn up the boost (I've got over 300 rwtq...more than a stock C5 Vette 5.7L V8. Torque is NOT a problem).
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04-07-07, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7henry
Torque I know is not a problem making with a turbo rotary. It's just peaky when it comes on. Natural for a rotary, opposed to other engines making torque curves relatively lower in the rpm band.
The torque curve is pretty FLAT....its not "peaky" whatsoever. A Sequential twin turbo system provides power & torque down low & then engages the 2nd turbo for additional HP (and slightly more torque) above 4,500 rpm). Dude, you need to do your homework. An FC is not the same as an FD (I've owned moddded 1st, 2nd & 3rd Gen cars - they are separate animals).
http://members.fortunecity.com/jremo1/id10.htm
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04-07-07, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
Wrong again. Here is s typical Hp/Torque curve for a slightly modded 3rd Gen RX-7. The curve looks pretty much the same for a stock or modded twin sequential turbo 3rd Gen. I don't think you have ever driven a 3rd Gen or you would not be making these comments?
The torque curve is pretty FLAT....its not "peaky" whatsoever. A Sequential twin turbo system provides power & torque down low & then engages the 2nd turbo for additional HP (and slightly more torque) above 4,500 rpm). Dude, you need to do your homework. An FC is not the same as an FD (I've owned moddded 1st, 2nd & 3rd Gen cars - they are separate animals).
http://members.fortunecity.com/jremo1/id10.htm
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The torque curve is pretty FLAT....its not "peaky" whatsoever. A Sequential twin turbo system provides power & torque down low & then engages the 2nd turbo for additional HP (and slightly more torque) above 4,500 rpm). Dude, you need to do your homework. An FC is not the same as an FD (I've owned moddded 1st, 2nd & 3rd Gen cars - they are separate animals).
http://members.fortunecity.com/jremo1/id10.htm
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04-08-07, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 3rd Gen Jeremy
Mini-vans aren't 50k used. I was just hoping that it was faster for being billed as an exotic with that price tag.
Thinking about picking one up, myself.
04-12-07, 10:43 PM
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When I was shopping for my car I either wanted the RX-7 or the NSX. The RX-7 because I love the looks, but I have never heard too much about their handling.
I know any turbo motor can be pumped up but reliabity goes down as power goes up.
My buddy who's a rotary mechanic warned me that any 7 I get, I would most likely have to change the engine soon. That didn't sound too appealing to me.
Also living in California and trying to find a smog hookup isn't worth it. Lastly I live near Fremont, and one pop of the hood would be a disaster at the state ref if I decided to do engine work.
The NSX on the other hand looks great, and handles very well. Supposedly you have Honda reliability but **** any engine can go at anytime, you just never know. So I found a very clean 1992 NSX with 120K miles for mid 20's. It's a car that I don't have to fix up at all but is quick enough for me to have fun in.
You'd have to drive one to appreciate it. If any of you swap test drives, let me know, i'm all over the bay.
I know any turbo motor can be pumped up but reliabity goes down as power goes up.
My buddy who's a rotary mechanic warned me that any 7 I get, I would most likely have to change the engine soon. That didn't sound too appealing to me.
Also living in California and trying to find a smog hookup isn't worth it. Lastly I live near Fremont, and one pop of the hood would be a disaster at the state ref if I decided to do engine work.
The NSX on the other hand looks great, and handles very well. Supposedly you have Honda reliability but **** any engine can go at anytime, you just never know. So I found a very clean 1992 NSX with 120K miles for mid 20's. It's a car that I don't have to fix up at all but is quick enough for me to have fun in.
You'd have to drive one to appreciate it. If any of you swap test drives, let me know, i'm all over the bay.
04-12-07, 10:55 PM
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well, ****, if i'd found one for around 20-25k, it would have been worth it, but the only nsx I found in my area was 42k. very capable racecar platform, but I still think they're overpriced and overrated in street trim. (unless it's like 25 grand... then it's ok!)
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