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Old 10-27-06, 08:48 PM
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Enough with the flames.
We were all 18 at one time and we all started with a first car.Some of us had a POS and others had monsters. There is no law that says a first car has to be a rusted out grandma mobile.
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most of you "old timers" should know better than to bitch about this being a 7 forum concerning this kill.

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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Lol. All Ferrari is at that point is a name. The Corvette handles better, is faster, and is just as aerodynamically sound. All the 355 has on it, is the name. What car won the LeMans 24 hour for the last 9 years running? Not a Ferrari....
After reading this entire thread... this is the only post of yours i have a problem with. Whatever it is you have been smoking to make you think that the corvette handles better than the Ferrari, must be some good ****. So the corvette can go in a straight line a little faster than the ferrari big whoop. Ferrari got to the point it is today because it is one of the premier car manufacturerers in the world and has been for many years. If the corvette was soooo great, don't you think Chevy would be able to sell it for as much as a Ferrari? Even though i don't personally like the corvette, i'm not bashing it. I'm merely telling you to not get too excited and make statements such as corvett<Ferrari. And remember, the Ferrari you raced is one of the slowest produced... so don't get too cocky.
Keep it up though you sound like you are in a WAY better position than 99% of 18 yr olds are financially and carwise. Just be thankful for what you have and enjoy every minute of it at least somewhat responsibly.
Old 10-30-06, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 10thAEWHiteHeat
After reading this entire thread... this is the only post of yours i have a problem with. Whatever it is you have been smoking to make you think that the corvette handles better than the Ferrari, must be some good ****. So the corvette can go in a straight line a little faster than the ferrari big whoop. Ferrari got to the point it is today because it is one of the premier car manufacturerers in the world and has been for many years. If the corvette was soooo great, don't you think Chevy would be able to sell it for as much as a Ferrari? Even though i don't personally like the corvette, i'm not bashing it. I'm merely telling you to not get too excited and make statements such as corvett<Ferrari. And remember, the Ferrari you raced is one of the slowest produced... so don't get too cocky.
Keep it up though you sound like you are in a WAY better position than 99% of 18 yr olds are financially and carwise. Just be thankful for what you have and enjoy every minute of it at least somewhat responsibly.
A c5 z06 can do more than just beat a ferrari Modena in a straight line. A c5 Z06 pulls roughly a G on the skidpad. The Modena pulls a .92 (which is about what a base model C5 pulls with the gymkhana package).

Performance has less to do with the Ferrari's price tag and than the name, quantity of production and the fact they are hand made rather than assembly line built. Ferraris are a luxery good, meaning they have very low supply and demand for them actually decreases as more are built. Chevy could actually build a car that outperforms many Ferrari models in speed, handling, reliability, gas milage et cetera (*cough*C6 Z06*cough*) and people would still pay less for it simply because of a Ferrari's scarcity and luxery status. Though they generally are amazing cars, they are not untouchable in performance, so don't assume ferrari>chevy (or mazda for that matter) either.
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Well thank you for not flaming me, what i meant by that statement, was for comparable models. 355, 360, and the like. A 550 or an Enzo would blow my doors off. Skid pad tests and braking tests, all favor the vette in its range. And Ferrari's havent won at LeMans for a while now, not saying they are bad cars (its certainly not the case), but they havent been #1 or #2 for at least 9 years. Though Ferraris mostly stick to Forumla series, so its not much of a comparison.

True, Chevy could sell it for more, with what you are getting (they dont make much money off it with the price so low, its just the image that it portrays brings some customers to chevy) But they dont want to do that, because it is the "poor mans" sports car. It can hang with the big dogs on the street and the track, it crushes things 30 thousand out of its price range, and it looks fairly decent aesthetically. Im not bashing your statement, I would gladly take a Ferrari, but only if they knocked the price tag down about 200 thousand dollars.

My point was only that for the money, the Corvette IS the best thing you can buy. Everything comparable to it costs 30k+ on the base price. With what you save you can turn it into an insane monster by taking it to lingenfelter performance and getting a twin turbo kit for it and pushing it to 725 horsepower (Well okay, 40 thousand and change, but still they upgrade everything to match the numbers).

I do kinda have a thing for Vettes though. Regardless, thank you for the compliments, and the non flaming message, it is VERY much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by gregariousgreg
A c5 z06 can do more than just beat a ferrari Modena in a straight line. A c5 Z06 pulls roughly a G on the skidpad. The Modena pulls a .92 (which is about what a base model C5 pulls with the gymkhana package).

Performance has less to do with the Ferrari's price tag and than the name, quantity of production and the fact they are hand made rather than assembly line built. Ferraris are a luxery good, meaning they have very low supply and demand for them actually decreases as more are built. Chevy could actually build a car that outperforms many Ferrari models in speed, handling, reliability, gas milage et cetera (*cough*C6 Z06*cough*) and people would still pay less for it simply because of a Ferrari's scarcity and luxery status. Though they generally are amazing cars, they are not untouchable in performance, so don't assume ferrari>chevy (or mazda for that matter) either.
1.01 I believe. And yeah with the Z51 Package, i think youre right about the C5.

Could you have posted maybe 5 minutes later? lol.

Good points.
Old 10-31-06, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Thanks for the info, but unfortunately, all of the events are passed for this year....so uh....yeah. But honestly I have looked into the SCCA, and i would like to race the professional classes, which is why i want the liscense, im sure you know more about that than i do though, since ive only read about it. Are there dues for the SCCA or a enterance fee to run those events? I dont really have spare cash...
You'll needs lots of experience to even qualify to try for pro class, I'd recommend doing some SOLO II (autocross) before doing any road courses. In road course HPDE's you'll usually go through a set of brake pads if not a set of brake rotors.
The car will require some serious maintenance as well. I'd budget about $10K a year if you wanna stay competitive and not kill the car.
There is always an entrance/event fee and a yearly membership fee.
Racing is not for the thin of wallet.
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Originally Posted by niburu
You'll needs lots of experience to even qualify to try for pro class, I'd recommend doing some SOLO II (autocross) before doing any road courses. In road course HPDE's you'll usually go through a set of brake pads if not a set of brake rotors.
The car will require some serious maintenance as well. I'd budget about $10K a year if you wanna stay competitive and not kill the car.
There is always an entrance/event fee and a yearly membership fee.
Racing is not for the thin of wallet.
Thanks for the Info, much obliged.
Old 10-31-06, 04:03 PM
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the vette never loses!!!
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wow wtf.

All this was unnecessary flaming, good kill man. I love being 18 myself and having people know I have an LS1 FD.

Again, good kill.

If anything deserves flaming, it's this right here:
https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/haha-mustang-vs-fd3-592227/#post6257769

Weaving in and around traffic, "DRIFTING LANE CHANGES," take all your whining and bitching there..

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Old 10-31-06, 05:15 PM
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Hey, kick *** with that conversion, I was seriously thinking about doing that to my FC. Ive since decided, that i would rather have a rotary running 40+ pounds of boost. Meh, lol. The LS1 rocks. Thanks
Old 10-31-06, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Ive since decided, that i would rather have a rotary running 40+ pounds of boost.
Are you a drug lord..? How do you think you can afford that..
Old 10-31-06, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Hey, kick *** with that conversion, I was seriously thinking about doing that to my FC. Ive since decided, that i would rather have a rotary running 40+ pounds of boost. Meh, lol. The LS1 rocks. Thanks
try doing 40+ psi it on your stock turboes too if you get the chance
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First off, I dont have "stock turbos" because my car didnt come with them. Its a GTU Douche bag. Second, yes I know it will cost money. I never said it was going to happen in the next year, or the next two, or even the next 10. Yes, I also know that the stock equipment would have issues with all of that boost. But it is possible, though expensive. Dont flame me when it makes you sound like a jack ***. I was just saying that it was something I would like to do. I dont make fun of you for having dreams and ideas do I?
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
First off, I dont have "stock turbos" because my car didnt come with them. Its a GTU Douche bag. Second, yes I know it will cost money. I never said it was going to happen in the next year, or the next two, or even the next 10. Yes, I also know that the stock equipment would have issues with all of that boost. But it is possible, though expensive. Dont flame me when it makes you sound like a jack ***. I was just saying that it was something I would like to do. I dont make fun of you for having dreams and ideas do I?
40 Lbs of boost is A LOT to run through a 13B. You're going to need to do some interesting internal work to do it relatively safely.

Anyways, nice kill on the Ferrari, and keep it safe. It's a shitty feeling to hear about a forum member crashing their car, and even shittier knowing someone got hurt or killed. And it's happened on this forum a few times since I've been here, which is more than it should have.

And like I said before in one of your threads, head out to Auto-X!! It's a hell of a rush, and WAY safer than street racing!

Take it easy.
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Thanks Spot skater. Yeah, Itll be a complete refabrication of all the internals more than likely (and probably the housings too) But it will be fun in the end. It will be interesting, granted.

Yeah, hearing about friends or buddies crashing always sucks. And ive had a couple that hit a tree sideways in their cars, with 5 friends in it with em. Not good. Or another guy i know drove off a cliff with a total of 8 people in a camry, 3 were in the trunk.

Only thing i need to know is when the next Auto X is. I actually resisted the urge to go for 160+ last night, and settled for 100 coming off the 80-113 interchange. Man, there was NO one on the road though...anyways. Yeah, just waiting on the next Auto X i can find, and ill be taking my vette hopefully, or god willing, ill find a cheap clutch for the GTU and take that.
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Thanks Spot skater. Yeah, Itll be a complete refabrication of all the internals more than likely (and probably the housings too) But it will be fun in the end. It will be interesting, granted.

Yeah, hearing about friends or buddies crashing always sucks. And ive had a couple that hit a tree sideways in their cars, with 5 friends in it with em. Not good. Or another guy i know drove off a cliff with a total of 8 people in a camry, 3 were in the trunk.

Only thing i need to know is when the next Auto X is. I actually resisted the urge to go for 160+ last night, and settled for 100 coming off the 80-113 interchange. Man, there was NO one on the road though...anyways. Yeah, just waiting on the next Auto X i can find, and ill be taking my vette hopefully, or god willing, ill find a cheap clutch for the GTU and take that.
Check the racing/auto-x section on here, or the West Coast section. I know in the NE section there are posts throughout the season for when they have them.
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Originally Posted by spot_skater
Check the racing/auto-x section on here, or the West Coast section. I know in the NE section there are posts throughout the season for when they have them.

+eleventy seven million

Ill check when theyve got stuff. Still need money, but ill at least try to show up, if i cant race.
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