Rotary Noob

I was out on a date last night, so i had the girl in tow, and i was going to play around a little with this red (i assumed stock) Z06. I pull up along side him on the street, and he has no hood, and a magnuson blower sticking out the top where the hood would be.

He was cool though, we talked at the stop signs a few times after he kicked my *** (soon as i saw the blower i knew he would...) He was probably only boosting to 6psi, maybe 7. Probably making around 500-550 rwhp.

In first gear, i could hang with him, because all he got was tire spin. Anything after that, and I was gone. It was beautiful though. So, if anyone around the lincoln/rocklin area sees a red Z06 Vette, without a hood sporting a blower, I dont think i need to say this...but its fuggin mean.

Scrapiron7

So, you mean your dad's vette got beat by another vette?

1RevvinFC3S

Nice. I've had a sudden urge for a C6.

Rotary Noob

Hey bricke, why do you have to be a pretentious *******? Did it ever occur to you (this is not the first time I've said this by the way...) that maybe it belongs to me? Yeah. Thats right, me. Dont be a douche bag, and assume things about me (you could easily read up on some of my first posts, which also happened to be in the kill section, in which i dealt with the same stuff you just said). You dont know me, you didnt bother to read, and you are clearly just another aging (soon to be old) guy that thinks I am a punk kid driving my parents car.

And for that matter, why do you randomly bust in with blatant assumptions? You could be a little more tactful, at the very least. I could make fun of the fact that you drive a ford, or that you chose a piece of **** as a truck and wasted your money, but as a general rule, I leave people to their own devices. So, do what your mommy told you way back when YOU were a kid, and dont say anything at all if you dont have anything nice to say, jackass.

1 Revvin, Ive wanted to go up against a C6 for a while (not to mention that i want a C6 Z06...that thing is sex on wheels), but none of the ones ive seen driving around will have a little fun on the freeway, they all just stare at me like im nuts...

Would be fun to see if the stock one (more HP/TQ than me) would do. The gearing is WAY different, I want to see if I would beat the base C6, or the Z51 package C6. I think the Z51 would pull on me, but im not sure about the base...it would be really close either way.

Scrapiron7

Haha. I can easily afford your silly Z06, but I don't think it's going to tow my boat nearly as well

turbodrx7

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^I dont think anyone cares what you can afford or already have. I hate people that feel the need to flaunt their wealth when ever they get the chance.

Good death rotary noob, modded z06s are usually no joke, especially blown ones.

-Austin

Rotary Noob

^Agreed. I honestly dont care what you use your truck for, or if you could afford my "silly" Z06. Besides, your "silly" ford doesnt get 36 mpg highway, my "silly" Z06 does.

Yeah, it was a good death, got the girl i was out with turned on, so no complaints on this end! :thumbs_up:

For the longest time, i wanted to work on my vette...but, with the price of parts, and the fact that its got rare factory options on it (and that stock goes for higher resale, than if it were modded), as well as a complimentary bottom end (about 20k miles on it so far) and a new transmission, which has maybe 400 miles on it (for a total of only 400 dollars...thank god for warranties) I would say that its a pretty bitchin piece to hold on to, and maybe trade it in on a 06, or 07 Z06 eventually.

At one point I was looking around at some of the blowers, and turbo kits available to the Corvette, and there arent that many. Magnuson (screw type) and Vortech/Procharger (Centrifugal type) are pretty much the only superchargers, and range from 5k-10k for just the blower. The turbo kits, you can have custom work done, but no kits are really offered, except through Lignenfelter, and I think Mallet (as well as a few other specialty vette places, but no where near me, or in my price range) Most of the time, they dont even boost that high, like i said, only about 6 psi on the one that kicked my ***, but with high comp ratio (11.0:1), and a fairly free revving engine, that 6psi does wonders.

When i was catching up to him to see if he would play, I didnt realize that he was blown, it was an oh **** moment when I did realize it...

EZMONEY

Nice death man. So you have a c5 ZO6 and a FD? I'm just going by it saying 13b and ls1 power. I though the c5 ZO6's were a LS2?

dregg100

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ls2 is the base C6, the '01 zo6 was ls1, 02-04 was ls6, and the 06-07 zo6 is ls7.

rotary noob, have you looked at STS remote mount turbos, they offer a complete tt kit that has everything, i wanna say its $5500-6000? the 7psi kit makes like 540-550 whp and you can get a 12 psi kit which im sure the numbers are really impressive!

Rotary Noob

EZMONEY: YEah, I have a C5 Z06, but not an FD. I have a 88 GTU. Yeah, I do have a 7 though, good guess without reading up on it though. The Z06 is actually built off the LS6 (or the LS1 for the 2001) motor. The C6 Z06 was built off the LS7 motor.

Dregg100: Yeah I checked out STS, but ive heard mixed things. Ive seen a vid of a Lignenfelter turbo vette, and an STS turbo vette. 680 for the lingnen, 740 for the STS (the 12psi kit you were talking about) The STS won of course, but it looked really close, for a differenece of 60 horsepower (dont know tq numbers). Youre about right on the price though, its pretty low. Problem is, you have to upgrade everything else to go with it. The tranmission can take it, but the flywheel and clutch should be changed, and you should keep an eye on everything else. The valve train should be upgraded, fuel pump (thats a given) as well as injectors, so the true price really still comes around to about 8-9k.

Thats what I want to do to my 7, put a remote turbo on it. It would quiet the exhaust down, a whole hell of a lot, no one would know that its a turbo (other than the FMIC...), I wouldnt have as much issue with heat in the engine bay, and I could mount them at the Y pipe. That was my plan at least. Some of the instructors at my tech school say that it is a waste, but the STS site says they match the compressor to the application, so there isnt any lag...so im torn. Ill probably talk to STS about their system and use my car a guinea pig and just buy their standard kit, and do the fab work myself.

10thAEWHiteHeat

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bricke got .......

Scrapiron7

not hardly

dregg100

iTrader: (34)

well the sts kit comes with fuel stuff, and the 7 PSI kit (the one i know the most about causr i want it) is 100% everything needed. it even comes with a programmer to flash the ECU. the only thing i dont like is getting rid of my titanium mufflers.

dakotaracer

sts is a waste imo, it's not bad but you can get so much better power, numbers and track times with a front mounted turbo setup....


also the 01's had ls6's that had alot of issues.... 99-00 FRC's were basically z06's with ls1's

dregg100

iTrader: (34)

then consider how much a front mounted turbo system raises your underhood temps verses the sts. plus just the travel from the the turbos to the intercoller lowers the intake charge 100 degrees! then it goes throught the intercooler. really i guess its whatever floats ur boat.

01 z they still called the engine ls1. i really wish they would have kept making FRC's during the zo6 production, but i that must just be me.

dakotaracer

the sts kits don't produce great track times, the theory is great and it isn't a half bad choice for semi cheapness.... but you can get so much more out of a front mount.... i think the fastest an sts kit has gone is somewhere in the 10's... i would just do a decent sized front mount and call it a day, front mount or sts you don't wanna push more than 7-8 psi stock internals...

Rotary Noob

if you lowered the compression ratio, and you had all the pieces forged and cryo treated, you could run up to about 12-14psi, with good reliability. I think an STS went 8.5 or 9.0 fairly recently...I could be wrong though, I havent seen the article in a couple weeks. Only problem with front mount, is the heat. Fiberglass = flammable, and I dont want my hood going up in flames, and the lower charge air temp would be nice too.

Agreed, it is a cheap alternative, but it does work. I just wonder how it would fare on a 13b, the exhaust pulses being different than a piston engine...Might work out better. And it would quiet the thing down, thats for damn sure.

dregg100

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i dont see why the fastest one has gone is 10's.

dakotaracer

just the setup it is, if they have gone faster it is recent and i didn't know.


but considering people go 7's and 6's with front mount turbo's in the 1/4.... it isn't going to a huge problem with heat vs the back.... i still personally prefer a front mount turbo.

Rotary Noob

I know that a remote isnt quite as efficient as a front mount, (gasses cool down in the pipes, and shrink, all that fun physics stuff) But, I think you can make it work just as well, if you do the tuning to it. It would be far more of a sleeper with the turbo mounted in the back. Especially if you ran mufflers after it, as well as dumping the blow off back into the exhaust. With all of that, you MIGHT be able to pass the FMIC as another radiator (to non rotary people, aka, ignorant people.) because your rotary is mad sick dawg.

dregg100

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colder charge is more dense, which means more air, not less. just recirclulate the blow off, dont dump into the exhaust, and paint the intercooler black. they'll never know. hehehe

Rotary Noob

Yeah, the colder charge air is good, but the colder egt's arent. the hotter it is, the better it can spool the turbo, as hot gasses are "larger" than cold gasses. I dunno, some of the instructors have been saying that its a waste of money, so I need to figure out what Im going to do, when I have the money to do it, with the knowledge to back the decision up.

Either paint it black, or fab an underpan so that i can mount it nearly flat, and run the piping through the stock air box (and not actually use it of course), and then through the regular platic coated pipe, from airbox to UIM.