7THSIGN

and you should check out our previous statement saying the guy couldnt drive his car. i mean really, how many of those rich guys that can afford those high priced exotics really know how to drive them??? not too many if you ask me.

and no, thank you for playing sir

RotaryWeaponSE7EN

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Nice kill man. Rotarys OWN!

Outkast

I have an FD with a streetport and a t78 and I was unable to catch a stock Porsche 911 Turbo in 2nd and 3rd gear. Although I was only running 10 psi in the daytime with a passenger and a full tank of gas, I think I was still making more power than a bolt-on FD. Nice job on the 350Z, I think your car is running high 12s.

`sl!mXP

well it doesnt take much to drive an awd tt 996 especially on the highway. Believe me, im 18 and Ive driven em a couple times (used to work at a porsche dealership) and its pretty easy for me lol. Im very surprised that you were able to beat a 996tt so easily with only 2 mods done. But if you did, awesome kill!
Are you positive it wasnt a 996 C4S? The only difference is that the tt has intake vents on the rear quarter panels, but other wise the cars look exactly the same, maybe you got confused?

7THSIGN

yeah i know what you mean, but there are so many people out there just have the money to drop on go fast cars but dont even know how to drive them.

I wish I could have been with my cousin when he ran the car but I wasn't, so I have no idea what it looked like. but I know a decent amount about Porsche's since my shop specialize in them:

luiml73

iTrader: (1)

I'd run you, Take a pick




All kiding aside, I'll be running the ferrari pretty soon. I'll post a thread with the outcome.

7THSIGN

sick! very nice

von

IndyKid.

The power to weight ratio shows that it only takes a 630rwp RX7 to beat a 900rwp Supra.

And a 360rwp FD to beat a 500rwp Supra.

Are you sure your friends are racing?

steve c

Interesting thread and one that has me interested.

I am a 02 911 turbo owner looking to buy a 3rd gen to play with.

Given that mine has run a 12.2@116 totally stock I would think you would need more than your listed horsepower to have the outcome you describe .. but hey who knows.

RX7UP

Good Kill

Rx7thHeaven

The typical HP to weight calculations do not work that well from my experience. Especialy when you are dealing with a rotary that makes no torque and a supra which makes GOBS of it. People will argue with this all day long and say that TQ doesnt matter but from my experience it does. My experience with this is as follows, My friend has a supra that puts down 520 rwhp and right at 500rwtq on pump gas and stock fuel with an SP63 single turbo setup. I had a T78 making 442rwhp at 18 psi and 333rwtq. His supra would pull my Rx7 by several car lengths through 3rd and 4th gear. We were playing around the other day and I can run just as close to him with my LS1 in the FD and it is stock except for no cats, intake and exaust. So based on similar Ls1's it should be making around 330rwhp and 330-340rwtq. Also you cant forget one other major factor, the Rx7's weight advantage becomes less as speed increases. At highway speeds it is less about HP vs Weight and more about HP vs Wind resistance. That is why high HP cars can pull some bikes at high speeds above 100 or so, but would get crushed by the bike from 30mph. OH well just my $.02

von

rx7heaven. Good obvservation. However, the FD has a DC of .29 which at high constant speed im sure equates to alot of power.

About torque. Since torque is horspower X RPM then at those higher speeds your speaking of I would think that Torque is what becomes less apparent as opposed to horspower. If your in the rotary power band then his torque wont be an advantage.

BUT if your in your lower gears especially seing how you had a T78 then I would think that would make all the difference your talking about (lag).

I know your telling the truth with your driving experiences but I have also heard of many poeple beating high HP supra's in there 7. I mean its all over this board for one thing. So it's sort of a moot point. Until I build one for myself and go out racing ofcourse.

rx-7s rock

I'm not sure why you're bragging about a kill where you were up against a car that you knew could rape you, but it didn't. I'll bet $20 the porsche driver was just toying with you.

von

RX7's rock. Thats not the point of posting kill races. The point is who won or not. The reader can make of it whatever they want but that doesent mean he didnt win. If all we did is post kills of cars that we knew we had an advantage over (specs wise) then this kill section would be pretty damn pointless and boring.

Good kill

rx-7s rock

Well lets see....he didn't talk to the guy, they were messing around in traffic, and he didn't even line up with the porsche. Tell me o wise one how that is a kill? lol, the kills section IS pointless and boring aside from the vids people post.

Marshall

Nah, not torque, its because the single turbo 7 has a powerband shaped like a triangle and the Supra's is a nice flat plateau with a closer ratio tranny to boot. You may have peaked 442 in the RX but I guarantee the average hp in the powerband was ~380 -whereas the Supra peaked 520 and probably averaged 510.

RX7SIGN

Rx7 Rock to be humble you seriously don’t know what you are talking about man. You obviously didn’t read my post. You need to have your facts straight before you post no offense. First of all the guy clearly was pushing the car to its full potential. What point he was shifting at or at its peak power and how fast I don’t know. Second of all we weren’t "messing" around in traffic. (I am constantly around Porsches considering my shop specializes in them I have rode in 11 second 911s to stock ones, Porsche Pitstop check there credits...He was pushing it. At the light he clearly floored his car and I did too. I DRAFTED him shifting very quickly up until my shift at 8,000rpms into third where I pulled lanes and pulled on him about two cars. Then we LINED UP and he clearly pushed the car again to its full potential and I pulled on him again. Also If you read I took the turn very quickly where he did not, helping to further cars. You obviously have never experienced any competitive racing. It’s possible to be faster or have a winning outcome due to more experienced driving. If you can please PM so I can receive my 20 dollars that you bet on. Actually keep it and buy yourself some knowledge on the beauty of the engineering required to create a rotary motor perfect enough to be an everyday car and compete and win LeMans. Ha-ha Just kidding man. No harm intended but just please understand the situation before you rag on me. I am a very humble guy and I wasn’t bragging if you re-read my post I said the car wasn’t driven correctly and if so the outcome would be different. Regardless I BEAT HIM.

kurrupt999

I dont believe it.

rx-7s rock

Ummmmmm.....you contradicted yourself there, but whatever. If you read MY post I wasn't ragging on anyone. I was asking a rhetorical question as to why you're getting all excited over racing a 911 on the streets.

Wow, um I could rip your post to pieces, but I'm not looking for an e-***** battle. Why don't we see whos car is faster, hmm? Mine or yours? I'll put my $20 down on that. Anyone else want to take bets?

kurrupt999

I got my rx7 on bruce lee.

7THSIGN

Who cares whos RX7 is faster... All this RX7 on RX7 crime has to stop! lol haha j/k

No but really my cousin only has downpipe and exhaust, but like I said, I do mid to high 12sec passes and hes only 1-2 car behind me by 4th gear, so I just think his car is performing great and he drives it very well.

As we all know anything can happen on the streets, its a much different atmosphere and environment at the drag strip.

Im sure the guy wasn’t playing with my cousin because I play with other cars sometimes to make them think that they are keeping up then smash the gas and go WOT. But I still stand strong and think that the guy wasn’t driving the car right and that’s why he lost.

Drivers race.

Shinobi-X

This is a misconception. Weight will matter anywhere you look at it. If you're trying to accelerate from 0-60, or 60-100, weight will not disappear as speed increases. The car with a better power to weight, regardless of speed, and all other things being equal will accelerate quicker. However, other factors do compound as speed increases, and one of those is wind resistance as related to aerodynamics. In relation to cars, bikes tend to have greater drag coefficients, and that along with "lesser power" to combat this resistance is part of the reason cars tend to pull them in the higher speed ranges.

RX7SIGN

Good point.

BlackRX7Turbo

And what, praytell, do you do for a living that you own a 612?? Sweet!

BlackRX7Turbo

That's all you have and you're running mid 12's?? Either there's more to that story, or I REALLY have to learn to drive...