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Old 01-04-07, 04:01 PM
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nuvolari...that is great and going in my sig.

and to the OP, assuming standard 15% drivetrain loss....450x15%=67.5 450-67.5=382.5

382.5rwhp@ 3250lbs vs 350rwhp@2700lbs 32hp to compensate 550lbs?
maybe not annihilate...but i still dont think you would have any chance
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id still prolly have him from the lower roll for a bit dont u think simply because of tq? see a 383rwhp 7 would prolly have wat 330-345rwtq where as id have 440 or so...?
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yup...you prolly could grab the race through first gear...if i was in an Fbody, thats the only way i'd race...FD's are killer from a 40+ roll.
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I liked my FD the 5 years I owned it... when it ran right and wasn't costing me the mortgage!
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Originally Posted by R1988T
im not gonna lie it would take one hell of an FD, to beat this formula, about 450bhp and 475btq with 4.10s, but id gladly trade it for a 350rwhp 7....
Hey man, I respect your admiration for FDs, but a few things I want to say...

1: 7.80 in the 1/8 is low 14s/high 13s in the 1/4(unless you have a big turbo and are having spool issues or something, but for a throaty V8, you won't have that problem); FDs run mid-high 13s stock....stock.

2: to get a 350rwhp(which is very obtainable) you'd need to open the exhaust-- DP, hf-cat or mp, catback--in addition to other things. these parts weigh considerably less than stock. so much so that an aftermarket turbo-back exhaust setup could very well be considered a weight reduction.

3: totally stock FDs weigh various ammounts, but base and R1 models weight ~2800lbs. To my knowledge, firebirds weigh more than that with the motor out. Something in the ballpark of 3600lbs stock?

4: 350rwhp FD is looking to be in the mid-high 11s with a good driver...

5: Save your money. you are in high school, you have a relatively reliable performance car, you are going to have years ahead of you when you won't be able to afford an FD. Remember, the cheapest part of RX-7 ownership is the initial purchase of a car. Like any high end sports car, parts are expencive and break often.
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http://www.fastnuf.com/QMC.html
go here and type in my 1/8th mile time...plus ive had severall ppl tell me that my car is capable of 11.90's or so, btw...
my best time N/a is 8.63@81.88 with a 1.85 60 ft
my best time with N2O 7.83@89.13 with a 1.79 60 ft
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Originally Posted by R1988T
I really want one so bad i mean i love my car i really do its a 95 Firebird Formula and it runs 7'80's in the 1/8 which is pretty quick but i want a FD so bad and have for the last 2 years, i just really hope you owners of the 7 love every moment ur behind the wheel of these beautiful cars...
I own a '95 Firebird Formula as well as an FD,and they are both fun,but when the FD is running properly,there is no comparison..

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I dunno why everyone calls them money pits, I haven't had to spend money on anything besides upgrades I've wanted in the past four years.
I would say you respresent .001% of the FD community then..
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Originally Posted by R1988T
http://www.fastnuf.com/QMC.html
go here and type in my 1/8th mile time...plus ive had severall ppl tell me that my car is capable of 11.90's or so, btw...
my best time N/a is 8.63@81.88 with a 1.85 60 ft
my best time with N2O 7.83@89.13 with a 1.79 60 ft
Just curious, but what part of SC are you from?
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Spartanburg...why do u ask?
Old 01-05-07, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 93VRTouring
5: Save your money. you are in high school, you have a relatively reliable performance car, you are going to have years ahead of you when you won't be able to afford an FD. Remember, the cheapest part of RX-7 ownership is the initial purchase of a car. Like any high end sports car, parts are expencive and break often.
This is the best advice for you... Right now try and focus on education and then when you are done buy your FD if you get a good paying job. The wait sucks, but it is worth it. Trust me I just went through this. I have always wanted to buy an FD and admired them from afar all the way through college and my professional school. Then at the end of my schooling (as a graduation present to myself) I started looking and found a beautiful silver on red FD in good shape that was nearly stock. But I do also have to say if I was not a successful clinical laboratory specialist it would be difficult (or a VERY long road) trying to mod the car. Unless your parents hand you tons of money you could not properly maintain one of these during college. Good luck with the future.
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Originally Posted by R1988T
http://www.fastnuf.com/QMC.html
go here and type in my 1/8th mile time...plus ive had severall ppl tell me that my car is capable of 11.90's or so, btw...
my best time N/a is 8.63@81.88 with a 1.85 60 ft
my best time with N2O 7.83@89.13 with a 1.79 60 ft
my $.02

You seem like a pretty cool guy and I checked the site and that would put your nitous time at about 12.2 in the 1/4. And with that 60ft i'd say you were at least on a decent DR but probably slicks.

My bolt on FD( about 300hp) on balding street tires ran a 9.0@84 in the 1/8th with a craptastic 2.3 60 ft. that was a VERY crappy run (13.6 @107) now plug your 8.6 run in that calculator and you are only running 13.5... my point is a 300 hp FD with the driver mod would easily run deep into the 13's on street tires.

Add another 50 hp and some sticky tires like the ones you run and that same FD is gonna run deep into the 12's(high 11's) just like your nitrous times. I would deffinately not call that an easy win for the 7 but a win none-the-less. BTW i don't put much stock in those calculators.......to many un-named factors and also, FDs come stock with 4.10's

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Old 01-06-07, 10:29 AM
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really they have 4.10's stock? thats sweet if thats in all the year models...and it was on nitto dr's not the best but good enough....they were my uncles old ones just 255/60's i think....
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FD 93-95 are the only u.s ones that come with 4.10's stock.

BTW have any pix of your car? sounds pretty mean
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Originally Posted by ProjectD
FD 93-95 are the only u.s ones that come with 4.10's stock.

BTW have any pix of your car? sounds pretty mean
the autos come with 3.90s, right?
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^you sure are correct. the autos do not come with 4.10's but i forgot what ther were equiped with. you are probably right about the 3.90's
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Originally Posted by R1988T
http://www.fastnuf.com/QMC.html
go here and type in my 1/8th mile time...plus ive had severall ppl tell me that my car is capable of 11.90's or so, btw...
my best time N/a is 8.63@81.88 with a 1.85 60 ft
my best time with N2O 7.83@89.13 with a 1.79 60 ft
I think your gonna be short of an 11 with that 1/8 trap, but i may be wrong

With my setup (streetport, small single 13psi, right around 350 wheel) , on slicks i was running consitent 7.5ish @93-94 mph traps 1/8's, with 1.61-1.65 60fts...with 11.87 at 116mph 1/4's

With the PT67 i have now, i wont have much problems touching 10's on relatively low boost this spring

and IMHO, those who think rx7's are money pits, are very much wrong, learn to do the work yourself and dont buy "packages", peice the things you need,

Hell on the powerplant in my car , i spent a total of around 1600 total, $1100 for the new Haltech E8 and $500 to fully build my engine, street ported with 9.7 rotors. And i beat the **** out of that engine this full last year at the track and street and still have 105-110psi on all rotor faces

Heck the rearend is the tiny stock NA LSD unit, and that lasted on 1.60 launches with slicks from a 6.5k clutch rideout

Not trying to call anyone out. just my O
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yeah, the FD is more like an addiction rather than a car, I've always loved the cars I've owned (modded civic, then stock mustang gt, then modded impreza, now modded FD, but this car is something different, it's like an obsession. And you always feel like you need to always keep doing things to it to make it just that much better. It's like putting in your donations to the rotary gods to make them smile at you, but when the car sings, you can't stop smiling all the way home. And the looks you get when open the car up, it's like no one on the road expects the car to take off like it, I get stares from guys in porsches and corvettes all the time, even one guy in an elise almost ran off the road turning his head back to see my badging to find out what kind of car it was. It's friggin great......... This car is like sex.........
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I dont have any pix but i can take some but its completely stock rims, exterior and interior...you know like a sleeper...ill take some pics though if yall wanna see, im going to the Drag strip tomorrow(1/8th mile) im gonna run some passes of the juice ill post them if yall would like to see and im on street tires just kinda bored this weekend...the only real mod on my car are N20,Exhaust,gears...and the driver of course but i have like one pic on my myspace...www.myspace.com/hokie7
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I guess I just lost my motivation, too many beater fds and v8s around now.
That's pretty sad. All the shitboxes and V8 conversions just motivate me to have a more powerful, more tastefully modded FD
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
That's pretty sad. All the shitboxes and V8 conversions just motivate me to have a more powerful, more tastefully modded FD
That's what I'm talkin about. Right on, and your doing quite a great job about it.
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That's what I'm talkin about. Right on, and your doing quite a great job about it.
Thanks bud. I got some seat time in the car yesterday, and I really like the powerband of this turbo. At just 12 psi, the car flat out rips
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Originally Posted by R1988T
Spartanburg...why do u ask?
I'm over in Greenwood, which is a little over a half-hour away. Let me know if you find one close and I'll help you go look at it to make sure everything's alright on it.
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Originally Posted by Nuvolari
Well, I'll tell you something, this is no longer a sports car . . . it's a quest! It's a quest for fun! I'm gonna have fun, and you're gonna have fun! We're all gonna have so much fu**ing fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our Goddamn smiles! You'll be whistling Zip-a-dee-doo-da out of your a**holes!
Alright Clark Griswold! lol

Yeah, I'm so in love with my FD. I've only had it for a little over two years, but at this point I can't see EVER getting rid of it. I guess it would change once I had a family, but we'll see. It's given me a few problems but nothing too big. I bought a house with a 2 car garage so both my cars would have a home, but like I jackass I don't take good enough care of the house and recently realized I should have bought a garage that isn't being used anymore, that's all I really need, haha.
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
I'm over in Greenwood, which is a little over a half-hour away. Let me know if you find one close and I'll help you go look at it to make sure everything's alright on it.
aight man appreciate it...
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