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Old 07-11-05, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II FC
Awesome. Yea ive been around alot of high hp supras since I work for Boost Logic which is a sister company to Performance Motorsports. Nice numbers.
Yea boost logic is a great company. I have a built auto trans from them along with various other parts. Both companies have advanced performance parts in the supra community a great deal.

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Old 07-11-05, 11:47 PM
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Chris Johnson is a well respected member in the supra community so I do not disregard his comment at all. The 67mm turbos make mid 600rwhp on stock cams and stock intake manifold. A personal friend of mine has one of the highest power output from a 67mm turbo by utilizing the aem standalone, cams and headwork.

http://www.moreboost.org/graphics/turbos/CTC67H_SO1.jpg

And you asked for a 61mm turbo with no spray. This was done with a small exhaust housing (.58a/r). Typically guys run a .68 a/r which yields ~30rwhp or so.

http://www.moreboost.org/graphics/turbos/T61_TM1.jpg

You can check out the rest of the power ratings that various turbos on the 2jz produce at www.moreboost.org. I will try to get more graphs once the supraforums are back up and running.

nice, i knew it could be done..i just couldnt find those damn dyno sheets..
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SP61GT- Also utilizing NEW 61mm GT compressor wheels, the SP61GT delivers 50 more RWHP than the SP58GT. A perfect choice for a 6 spd supra car on stock fuel. Maximum RWHP is 650 if fuel requirements are met. Now available with anti surge housing!

taken from the sound performance website

Hey!! that looks familiar
Old 07-12-05, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II FC
The bike in the vids is a 05' ZX10R, the quickest production bike out, quicker than a Hyabusa. Its funny how you say they shouldnt get walked by that bike yet you dont even know what bike that is.

No it isn't the fastest production bike. Unless something has changed since last time I looked at bikes.
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Hey!! that looks familiar



No it isn't the fastest production bike. Unless something has changed since last time I looked at bikes
i always thought the zx12r was the fastest production bike..
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i always thought the zx12r was the fastest production bike..
Well I guess you could say that or you could say the ZX10R is. Since they both have around the same hp yet sportbikez claims that the 12R runs a faster quarter mile yet the 10R traps higher.

Taken from sportbikez...

ZX-12R
Max HP- 160rwhp (sportrider mag)
Max TQ- 91 ft lbs.
Top Speed- 186.4mph (restricted) 190mph (unrestricted for less then $100)
1/4 Mile- 9.87@146.29 (2002-up) Tested my Motorcyclist Mag.

ZX-10R
Max HP- 161rwhp (sportrider mag)
Max TQ- 80 ft lbs.
Top Speed- 184mph
1/4 Mile- 9.92@147.4mph Tested by Sportrider Mag (sister mag to Motorcyclist)
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^^cool, thanks for the info
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good god that bimmer is fast, i'm always impressed when i see vids of a turbo bimmer. that's hilarious that the supra got walked by both you guys
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Originally Posted by Turbo II FC
The bike in the vids is a 05' ZX10R, the quickest production bike out, quicker than a Hyabusa. Its funny how you say they shouldnt get walked by that bike yet you dont even know what bike that is.
so since Turbo II FC is claiming the supra runs a 11 second quarter. and the zx10r runs a 9.92 in the quarter how does the supra get killed by the 240 and evo and then the 240 turn around and get killed by the bimmer. i would think the bimmer would be running pretty close to the bike according to the videos. i was just thinking if that supra runs that fast and the bimmer beats eveything so badly i would think that it could keep up with a bike that runs only at most a little over a second faster. anyone else doubt some of Turbo II FC's comments?
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or maybe the supra was running like no boost and horrible gas that night?
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Think whatever you want 93 FD...what is there to doubt about my comments? Your comments have no validity behind them. Your trying to comprehend and assume too much from cars youve never seen. Just because the supra may run a 11(be that high or not, im not sure, Im just stating what the supra owner told me) and my friends 240sx pulled him fairly good, then my friend in the BMW turns around and pulls him doesnt mean that the 240sx is a 10 second car and doesnt mean the BMW is a 9 second car. BTW, if you knew anything about comparing cars to what they run in the quarter mile and then comparing them on the street, ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. You shouldnt make comparisons like that. Ive seen cars that run 11's at the track yet get pulled by cars on the highway that run 13's. How you may ask? The 13 second car couldnt hook up off the line yet he trapped 130mph while the 11 second car trapped 117mph. The same goes for the 240sx, he couldnt cut a good time yet his car is insanely fast on highway pulls(doesnt worry about traction since hes not launching).

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whatever u dont make to much sense im not saying u are a liar just that ur statements dont seem to be right to me atleast.
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Hmm, with your grammar it seems to me that your not making too much sense. Anyway, im sorry if my statements dont seem to be right to you but this is the truth. BTW, whats funny is that the supra was actually running race gas that night. But then again, so were my friends in the BMW and 240sx.
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why is that funny i was being sarcastic when i said that maybe the supra was running horrible gas. and why are you starting in about my grammar i thought this thread was about your buddies cars, not grammar.
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I wouldnt have mentioned it but you stated that im not making sense when im trying to comprehend your statements correctly.
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alright your just being stupid and if you cant comprehend what im saying then i dont need to go back and forth with you over nonsense.
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I know all of these cars in question, and can tell you that the BMW is ******* crazy. It is the second fastest car I have ever rode in (fastest being Chris Johnson's supra.) I posted a video a while ago of me racing that same 240sx, and it is also very fast.

93 fd- What doesn't make sense? I can vouch that he is not lying about these races, or any of these cars. That BMW traps over 130, and he has told me about many bike kills, including R1's, and alot of other liter bikes.
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im not saying he is lying just that his statements dont make sense. originally i was just saying i dont think the supra was a 11 second car by the videos but i guess it is i just dont know anything.
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Originally Posted by 93_fd
im not saying he is lying just that his statements dont make sense. originally i was just saying i dont think the supra was a 11 second car by the videos but i guess it is i just dont know anything.
Nope you dont. The supra traps low 120s and is an 11 second car.
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well apparently it wasnt a 11 second car the night you shot the videos. anyway u will think what you want an likewise for me but i dont have time to sit and argue about somone elses car.
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well apparently it wasnt a 11 second car the night you shot the videos. anyway u will think what you want an likewise for me but i dont have time to sit and argue about somone elses car.
HAHA, who are you to say that this car was not a 11 second car that night? Were you there? Do you know these people? Just do us all a favor and dont post anymore.
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Originally Posted by 93_fd
well apparently it wasnt a 11 second car the night you shot the videos. anyway u will think what you want an likewise for me but i dont have time to sit and argue about somone elses car.


man, your entire concept of these races is pretty funny. You should try to stop arguing on the internet for the sake of argument, and actually go out and make some runs for yourself...maybe with some experience, you'd have some clout and real basis for a good argument.



btw, I'm the owner of the 240sx in the vids, and the BMW was running 17-19psi in the races agains the Evo, not 14psi like originally stated. The Evo owner also slams on the brakes after the first run to make the exit, and that's what makes the BMW look that much faster. The Supra that night was in it's fastest form ever...there were no magical forces going against it to make it slower than it was when it made some 11 second passes. If anything, the Supra should run better on the highway than from a stop at the dragstrip.
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Originally Posted by 93_fd
well apparently it wasnt a 11 second car the night you shot the videos. anyway u will think what you want an likewise for me but i dont have time to sit and argue about somone elses car.
~2800lbs., 467RWHP vs. ~3500lbs., ~480rwhp(?).

Somehow it makes sense to me...

If you launch the **** out of a car at the dragstrip, powershifting all the way and generally beating the **** out of it to get the best time possible, you're going to get a good time. That doesn't somehow mean that you won't get walked on the freeway by a car that would probably run a low 11, mid-10@~130mph.
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93 FD = Lack of Knowledge

Dont try to argue with him guys, he will not understand the concept that cars perform different at the strip than they do on the street. The best way for people who doubt is to show them first hand. So 93 FD, if your car runs 13's find another car who runs similar times or maybe a little slower. I bet you will be surprised.


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