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07-07-03, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by 45psi
No I do not want to run, by looking at you sig you would need about 2-300 more hp to even have try to hang with me. If you want, I will turn the boost down and we will go top end. But I warn you, this could get ugly!
No I do not want to run, by looking at you sig you would need about 2-300 more hp to even have try to hang with me. If you want, I will turn the boost down and we will go top end. But I warn you, this could get ugly!
I dunno man. I'm fast enough to pull an SRT-10 and a single turbo supra on pump gas at highway speeds. I just find it inconceivable that an MR2 could pull me on the highway. I have a good friend with a GT3540 who has dynoed at 470.....maybe that would be more to your liking 
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07-07-03, 09:19 AM
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If you have a chance, look at the mr2 gear rations. A stock mr2 top speed is 161. And has NO PROBLEM pulling past 180.
I will love to run your friend from a stop, roll, reverse, it doesn't matter. My car should be done in less than a month. If you have a friend in Houston, lets line em up.
Oh 470 is quite impressive, but if you read my last post I stated that you are going to need 2-300hp to even come close to my dyno figures.
I will love to run your friend from a stop, roll, reverse, it doesn't matter. My car should be done in less than a month. If you have a friend in Houston, lets line em up.
Oh 470 is quite impressive, but if you read my last post I stated that you are going to need 2-300hp to even come close to my dyno figures.
07-07-03, 09:32 AM
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Well im not gona bother quotin all that is above, but 45pis, all of the rx7s listed are all 2nd gen. I thought we were comparing 3rd gen vs 90-93 mr2s?? Although the times listed look right for a 3rd gen so idk if its a 2nd or 3rd.. And no offense to ur freind, but if he just added an ic and he blew up the motor, he doesnt know how to keep one up. Yea realibily isnt very good for a 7 and we all know that. That doesnt mean that its bad though.
07-07-03, 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by EricM
Ah, so we are comparing JDM vs JDM ?
Let me start then,
That's how your almighty, all-conquering Supra big brother did, and that's not the first time. Furthermore, your godly MR2 is not even there to qualify the times.
ZeroBanger, please finish this off.
Ah, so we are comparing JDM vs JDM ?
Let me start then,
That's how your almighty, all-conquering Supra big brother did, and that's not the first time. Furthermore, your godly MR2 is not even there to qualify the times.
ZeroBanger, please finish this off.
The MR-2 CAN'T Win, Even more important...
The -7- CAN'T Lose!!!
07-07-03, 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Well yippee. An FD will outperform a similarly modded MR2, hands down. Drag Strip, road course, autocross, top end highway pull. So, I'll ask one more time: wanna race?
Well yippee. An FD will outperform a similarly modded MR2, hands down. Drag Strip, road course, autocross, top end highway pull. So, I'll ask one more time: wanna race
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Just curious but you mentioned VIR in one of your posts; were you at the Mazda driver's VIR event last fall? I remember a red 3rd gen with Fikse wheels in my run group (yellow), was that you?
http://www.mazdadrivers.com/9_yellow...es/image15.htm
07-07-03, 10:14 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Directfreak
[B]Don't the MR2's have a problem with burning up piston 3 at about 350 hp?
IIRC you have to build a new intake
, to make more power without frying no 3.
I have heard that to, but have not come across anyone with that problem. There are people running over 450 on stock motors(without changing the intake manifold) with no problems. So unless it happens to me I aite worried.
When I look at a cars performance, there are a number things to look at. For one, reliabilty. Freaky Monkey you even said yourself there are issues of reliability with the rx7. So why if I am looking for a car to modify, bother purchasing a car thats unreliable? Two resale. I can easily turn around and sell my car for 15,000 US dollars without a problem. I have been offered trades and cash for my 2. Three, potential. Yes both cars have it, but I don't want to spend all my money fixing up mistakes left by a "certain car company". Four, if I do run into some problems, what high performance company can I take it to to help assist me in correcting my problem. There are very few companies that actually work on rx7's.
What are the actual difference between between 2nd and 3rd gen rx7's? Besides hp.
[B]Don't the MR2's have a problem with burning up piston 3 at about 350 hp?
IIRC you have to build a new intake
, to make more power without frying no 3.I have heard that to, but have not come across anyone with that problem. There are people running over 450 on stock motors(without changing the intake manifold) with no problems. So unless it happens to me I aite worried.
When I look at a cars performance, there are a number things to look at. For one, reliabilty. Freaky Monkey you even said yourself there are issues of reliability with the rx7. So why if I am looking for a car to modify, bother purchasing a car thats unreliable? Two resale. I can easily turn around and sell my car for 15,000 US dollars without a problem. I have been offered trades and cash for my 2. Three, potential. Yes both cars have it, but I don't want to spend all my money fixing up mistakes left by a "certain car company". Four, if I do run into some problems, what high performance company can I take it to to help assist me in correcting my problem. There are very few companies that actually work on rx7's.
What are the actual difference between between 2nd and 3rd gen rx7's? Besides hp.
07-07-03, 10:18 AM
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What does a stock rx7 run in the quarter. 14.0-14.3. is the norm. Now when my car was stock, I posted a 14.2 at 99 mph. A friend of mine with a Jspec mr2(bone stock) ran a 13.3 at 105. So when comparing it to the US spec mr2, all I can say is where did the 55 extra hp go. Jspec No comparison.
07-07-03, 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by 45psi
What does a stock rx7 run in the quarter. 14.0-14.3. is the norm. Now when my car was stock, I posted a 14.2 at 99 mph. A friend of mine with a Jspec mr2(bone stock) ran a 13.3 at 105. So when comparing it to the US spec mr2, all I can say is where did the 55 extra hp go. Jspec No comparison.
What does a stock rx7 run in the quarter. 14.0-14.3. is the norm. Now when my car was stock, I posted a 14.2 at 99 mph. A friend of mine with a Jspec mr2(bone stock) ran a 13.3 at 105. So when comparing it to the US spec mr2, all I can say is where did the 55 extra hp go. Jspec No comparison.
Your car is slow and your dick is small. GET OVER IT.
EDIT: LOL, your comparing with a JSPEC motor? Guess what? This is not japan. Compare a 280 HP Spirit R which runs 12's STOCK. You still lose.
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07-07-03, 10:40 AM
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its getting out of the hands...
Here u go
The MISTERTWO Cannot lose.. happy now?
Guy i know with 93 mr2 dynoed around 190 with exhaust / intake / bov at 15psi. Stock rx7 dynoed at low 200ish...
Here u go
The MISTERTWO Cannot lose.. happy now?
Guy i know with 93 mr2 dynoed around 190 with exhaust / intake / bov at 15psi. Stock rx7 dynoed at low 200ish...
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07-07-03, 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by 45psi
When I look at a cars performance, there are a number things to look at. For one, reliabilty. Freaky Monkey you even said yourself there are issues of reliability with the rx7. So why if I am looking for a car to modify, bother purchasing a car thats unreliable?
When I look at a cars performance, there are a number things to look at. For one, reliabilty. Freaky Monkey you even said yourself there are issues of reliability with the rx7. So why if I am looking for a car to modify, bother purchasing a car thats unreliable?
07-07-03, 11:13 AM
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My car is my daily driver and is perfectly 100 pct reliable. I agree the engine does not last as long and that is a big draw back, but the problem is engine longevity *NOT* reliability IMHO. Someone that cant afford the class of a car like a FD would probably buy a MR-2 and then come over here to bash the FD to feel better about his purchase.
Dont like it, bite me.
Dont like it, bite me.
07-07-03, 11:30 AM
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Wow your friends on the MR2 board seem to agree the FD is faster
http://www.board.mr2faq.com/showthre...47#post1214847
http://www.board.mr2faq.com/showthre...47#post1214847
07-07-03, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by 45psi
If you have a chance, look at the mr2 gear rations. A stock mr2 top speed is 161. And has NO PROBLEM pulling past 180.
I will love to run your friend from a stop, roll, reverse, it doesn't matter. My car should be done in less than a month. If you have a friend in Houston, lets line em up.
Oh 470 is quite impressive, but if you read my last post I stated that you are going to need 2-300hp to even come close to my dyno figures.
If you have a chance, look at the mr2 gear rations. A stock mr2 top speed is 161. And has NO PROBLEM pulling past 180.
I will love to run your friend from a stop, roll, reverse, it doesn't matter. My car should be done in less than a month. If you have a friend in Houston, lets line em up.
Oh 470 is quite impressive, but if you read my last post I stated that you are going to need 2-300hp to even come close to my dyno figures.
no insult intended, but I don't think you're very familiar with modded FDs. The more I think about it, I don't need my friend to race you----I want to
.Re: the 2-300 extra hp.......my friend and business partner Steve Kan dynoed ~550 at a dyno day a while back, and two Supras dynoed over 800. I put down 337 on the stock twins, and another supra put down ~425. All 5 of us went out on the highway and made numerous 40 to ~150ish punches. FDs 2, Supras 0. Not sure by how much he pulled on them, but I handily beat the Supra by about 3-4 cars every time.
Steve has pulled modded Hayabusa's at highway speeds. He has run a 10 flat at almost 140 mph. Do you think you can compete with him?
Until I redeploy, it's kind of a moot point. If you get the chance, go and make a 40 to 140 pull on pump gas and let me know how you do.
take it easy--
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07-07-03, 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by 45psi
No I do not want to run, by looking at you sig you would need about 2-300 more hp to even have try to hang with me. If you want, I will turn the boost down and we will go top end. But I warn you, this could get ugly!
No I do not want to run, by looking at you sig you would need about 2-300 more hp to even have try to hang with me. If you want, I will turn the boost down and we will go top end. But I warn you, this could get ugly!
Your ignorance is showing.
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07-07-03, 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroBanger
wow, its 12-1 infavor of the FD's on the MR2board now. I guess 45psi decided to vote, LOL.
wow, its 12-1 infavor of the FD's on the MR2board now. I guess 45psi decided to vote, LOL.
07-07-03, 01:38 PM
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07-07-03, 02:32 PM
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Ok where did I ever post that a stock mr2 was faster? I said an mr2 ran a 14.2-14.5. Compared to a 13.9 at the most for an FD. And where did the extra 55hp go.
I already know that stock for stock it would be hard for an mr2 to pull a FD, that is not what I have been saying. I have been stressing the potential part of the equation.
I already know that stock for stock it would be hard for an mr2 to pull a FD, that is not what I have been saying. I have been stressing the potential part of the equation.
07-07-03, 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by 45psi
Ok where did I ever post that a stock mr2 was faster? I said an mr2 ran a 14.2-14.5. Compared to a 13.9 at the most for an FD. And where did the extra 55hp go.
I already know that stock for stock it would be hard for an mr2 to pull a FD, that is not what I have been saying. I have been stressing the potential part of the equation.
Ok where did I ever post that a stock mr2 was faster? I said an mr2 ran a 14.2-14.5. Compared to a 13.9 at the most for an FD. And where did the extra 55hp go.
I already know that stock for stock it would be hard for an mr2 to pull a FD, that is not what I have been saying. I have been stressing the potential part of the equation.
07-07-03, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by 45psi
Ok where did I ever post that a stock mr2 was faster? I said an mr2 ran a 14.2-14.5. Compared to a 13.9 at the most for an FD. And where did the extra 55hp go.
I already know that stock for stock it would be hard for an mr2 to pull a FD, that is not what I have been saying. I have been stressing the potential part of the equation.
Ok where did I ever post that a stock mr2 was faster? I said an mr2 ran a 14.2-14.5. Compared to a 13.9 at the most for an FD. And where did the extra 55hp go.
I already know that stock for stock it would be hard for an mr2 to pull a FD, that is not what I have been saying. I have been stressing the potential part of the equation.
07-07-03, 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by 3RotorRocket
