fd vs. b18c1 civic
11-28-06, 02:57 AM
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race him, post your win, tell us how he complained and tried to tell you that i cant believe you beat me, I missed 3rd gear excuse blah blah blah...
and if you lose, well... then say you missed 3rd gear.... haha..
well good luck, just race... you still own a way higher potential 7, compaired to his honda... no matter how many bolt-ons he throws on it... its still a honda
b16, b18.... doesnt matter 4 pistons vtak
7's dont fear civics... period.
and if you lose, well... then say you missed 3rd gear.... haha..
well good luck, just race... you still own a way higher potential 7, compaired to his honda... no matter how many bolt-ons he throws on it... its still a honda
b16, b18.... doesnt matter 4 pistons vtak
7's dont fear civics... period.
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11-28-06, 03:50 AM
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I was thinking a coupe can weigh less than 2000 pounds? Even 2 door cf parts won't get you even close to that far unless you completly gut the interior, those things were heavy as hell stock.
11-28-06, 11:20 AM
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i think you would lose because:
A. that looks like a b18c5, not a c1. BIG difference in performance (c1=160hp, c5=200).
B. that car comes stock under 2300 lbs. i think 1800 lbs is an exageration, but 2000-2100 is do-able, making the power/weight ration ridiculus.
your fucked, my money is on the civic
A. that looks like a b18c5, not a c1. BIG difference in performance (c1=160hp, c5=200).
B. that car comes stock under 2300 lbs. i think 1800 lbs is an exageration, but 2000-2100 is do-able, making the power/weight ration ridiculus.
your fucked, my money is on the civic
11-28-06, 11:44 AM
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This is my convo with him.
Him-Fully built b18c1 and tein suspenshion and all kinds of ****.. about 13k in to that car man i ****** love it
Me-how much hp you putting down to the wheels?
Him-190-200
Me-tru how much does your car weigh?
Him-1800-1900, well stock my **** is 2100 and its lightnd like hell.
Thats just what he said, so i dunno
Him-Fully built b18c1 and tein suspenshion and all kinds of ****.. about 13k in to that car man i ****** love it
Me-how much hp you putting down to the wheels?
Him-190-200
Me-tru how much does your car weigh?
Him-1800-1900, well stock my **** is 2100 and its lightnd like hell.
Thats just what he said, so i dunno
11-28-06, 01:02 PM
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I agree with anyone who says you will beat him. I have raced countless GSR swapped Civic hatches and coupes and even sedans and they don't come close to an FD with bolt ons... Pretty sad to tell you the truth. From a dig it's easy and from a roll it's cake! With your mods you should walk him
11-28-06, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
i think you would lose because:
A. that looks like a b18c5, not a c1. BIG difference in performance (c1=160hp, c5=200).
B. that car comes stock under 2300 lbs. i think 1800 lbs is an exageration, but 2000-2100 is do-able, making the power/weight ration ridiculus.
your fucked, my money is on the civic
A. that looks like a b18c5, not a c1. BIG difference in performance (c1=160hp, c5=200).
B. that car comes stock under 2300 lbs. i think 1800 lbs is an exageration, but 2000-2100 is do-able, making the power/weight ration ridiculus.
your fucked, my money is on the civic
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/hon...256/specs.html
edmunds say its 2601 lbs and thats the lowest ive seen. under 2300 is an exaggeration..and under 2k..its straight bullshit
even if it was a b18c5, it aint like its something fast
a real deal integra type-r weights either the same or a bit less and they run 14 seconds stock. unless your fd is really havin issues..i wounldnt worry bout it.
dont forget a b18c5 the motor has 130lbs of torque...
be very afraid
11-29-06, 12:18 AM
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man how many of us really checked the weight of the car? none... ok, well its NOT a b18c5, it has to be a c1, unless your friend is a retard... FYI the type r valve cover (b18c5) fits on all b-series vtec engines, which im pretty sure is what he did... if he doesnt know what he has, hes an idiot... that would be the equivalent of a guy having a mustang gt and not knowing if its a v6 or v8... so if that guys car is fully built, yea it should put out some nice power... but the car weighs 2612 lbs, and even if it is fully gutted, like i said before, theres no way in hell that thing will weigh 18-1900 lbs... unless he was driving a shell with a motor, coupes are also heavier, id say i t weighs 2300 at the least... you should be a little more intimidated by hatchbacks... with b18's and b16's and b20's... **** what you shoul really worry about is if someone rolls up on you with an h22a, in any honda that would be quick, coupe or hatch... the h22 is around 190-220 hp and around 160-175 lbs of torque... man just race him, dont worry, he may get you off the start but you should pull in your topend... im sure you got the win, from a stop or rolling... race and win, then post the story... like mazrx7fd said, sevens dont fear civics... (well most of em lol) and from what im reading franklin im guessing you dont know too much about cars yet... just keep postin and learn about whats out there on the streets, play some gran turismo 4 and youll learn fast lol (i didnt do that btw) but yea just keep posted and checking out mags and anything else you can to learn about the competition... well good luck man and dont worry...
robert
btw heres a helpful link:
2000 civic si
robert
btw heres a helpful link:
2000 civic si
11-29-06, 07:57 AM
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I forgot I raced a full bolton H22a swapped 94 ish prelude, and man that thing is quick, however, I was only putting down 265 ish rhp, and I pulled on him about 3-4 cars no problem on top of 4th gear. But that damn thing has some tq and it pulls hard like no other Honda though. Like mazrx7fd says, sevens dont fear any hondas. Thats the fact.
11-29-06, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jic
that for sure is a 99-00 civic si
and which reminds me..the intake manifold does look like a stock b16 manifold.
and all i can see is a damn cold air intake which doesnt even really free up any horsepower than make vtak sound more cool.
been there done that....i got money that all he did was change the stock b16 black valve cover to a red itr/ctr valve cover then claiming all this bs that the motor is fully built and it weights 1800-1900 pounds
and which reminds me..the intake manifold does look like a stock b16 manifold.
and all i can see is a damn cold air intake which doesnt even really free up any horsepower than make vtak sound more cool.
been there done that....i got money that all he did was change the stock b16 black valve cover to a red itr/ctr valve cover then claiming all this bs that the motor is fully built and it weights 1800-1900 pounds
11-29-06, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by F.T.P. rotaryrocket
they upgrade the gsr IM to a single stage like the ITR and the Civic si over the GSR dual stage IM. he could've swapped a b16 head on that block since it flows marginally better than gsr head. anyway that car could be gutted but i doubt he dropped 600-700 lbs. yoshimitsu runs 14.0's with his stock ITR motor in a DC2 teggy and mild weight reduction. it only makes 165whp. Now he is into the 13's though with a few more mods. so if they dropped that civic down to 2300 lbs and he has 200+whp in ideal conditions he could be running a 13.8.
11-29-06, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eightsixlife
man how many of us really checked the weight of the car? none... ok, well its NOT a b18c5, it has to be a c1, unless your friend is a retard... FYI the type r valve cover (b18c5) fits on all b-series vtec engines, which im pretty sure is what he did... if he doesnt know what he has, hes an idiot... that would be the equivalent of a guy having a mustang gt and not knowing if its a v6 or v8... so if that guys car is fully built, yea it should put out some nice power... but the car weighs 2612 lbs, and even if it is fully gutted, like i said before, theres no way in hell that thing will weigh 18-1900 lbs... unless he was driving a shell with a motor, coupes are also heavier, id say i t weighs 2300 at the least... you should be a little more intimidated by hatchbacks... with b18's and b16's and b20's... **** what you shoul really worry about is if someone rolls up on you with an h22a, in any honda that would be quick, coupe or hatch... the h22 is around 190-220 hp and around 160-175 lbs of torque... man just race him, dont worry, he may get you off the start but you should pull in your topend... im sure you got the win, from a stop or rolling... race and win, then post the story... like mazrx7fd said, sevens dont fear civics... (well most of em lol) and from what im reading franklin im guessing you dont know too much about cars yet... just keep postin and learn about whats out there on the streets, play some gran turismo 4 and youll learn fast lol (i didnt do that btw) but yea just keep posted and checking out mags and anything else you can to learn about the competition... well good luck man and dont worry...
robert
btw heres a helpful link:
2000 civic si
robert
btw heres a helpful link:
2000 civic si
11-29-06, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
we dont know its an si. it could be a dx model (2359 lbs) wich could be dropped to 2200 pretty easily (granted the motor swap ads a little weight itself). and if it IS built to 200whp, which is really not that hard with a gsr motor, then he will most likely win.
i say f*** the honda and make him realize he bought the wrong car for the wrong reasons.
honda drag racing is...
11-29-06, 05:46 PM
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stock teg type r 195 hp......2600lbs......14.7 quarter mile
stock fd ............255 hp.......2800lbs.......13.9 quarter mile
go poop before you race....i think you'll take'em
stock fd ............255 hp.......2800lbs.......13.9 quarter mile
go poop before you race....i think you'll take'em
11-29-06, 10:26 PM
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just run him an see what happens. fix the boost problem and you'll take him no problem. b18c1's are only good when the vtec kicks in and thats not till aroud 4500 rpms
11-30-06, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jectrx7
just run him an see what happens. fix the boost problem and you'll take him no problem. b18c1's are only good when the vtec kicks in and thats not till aroud 4500 rpms
i dont think it helps much..but it sounds badass
11-30-06, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by eightsixlife
man how many of us really checked the weight of the car? none... ok, well its NOT a b18c5, it has to be a c1, unless your friend is a retard... FYI the type r valve cover (b18c5) fits on all b-series vtec engines, which im pretty sure is what he did... if he doesnt know what he has, hes an idiot... that would be the equivalent of a guy having a mustang gt and not knowing if its a v6 or v8... so if that guys car is fully built, yea it should put out some nice power... but the car weighs 2612 lbs, and even if it is fully gutted, like i said before, theres no way in hell that thing will weigh 18-1900 lbs... unless he was driving a shell with a motor, coupes are also heavier, id say i t weighs 2300 at the least... you should be a little more intimidated by hatchbacks... with b18's and b16's and b20's... **** what you shoul really worry about is if someone rolls up on you with an h22a, in any honda that would be quick, coupe or hatch... the h22 is around 190-220 hp and around 160-175 lbs of torque... man just race him, dont worry, he may get you off the start but you should pull in your topend... im sure you got the win, from a stop or rolling... race and win, then post the story... like mazrx7fd said, sevens dont fear civics... (well most of em lol) and from what im reading franklin im guessing you dont know too much about cars yet... just keep postin and learn about whats out there on the streets, play some gran turismo 4 and youll learn fast lol (i didnt do that btw) but yea just keep posted and checking out mags and anything else you can to learn about the competition... well good luck man and dont worry...
robert
btw heres a helpful link:
2000 civic si
robert
btw heres a helpful link:
2000 civic si
Thx you are right i dont know much about cars, i am learning though. I read through the forums everyday and try to take in as much information as possible. My car is in the shop right now and i plan on racing him when i get it back, hopefully i will have a video camera to tape it.