My Friend Eddy And I on my spare time have been working on this project. He currently purchased an LS7 and is getting it moddified. I recently helped him remove the 12a motor,trany and rear diferential out of his 84 fb. The project with me and him is to reduce the weight of the fb and get the tallest rear differential that will work on the car the best to keep traction. I guess we will also look for an msd super 7 ignition to keep tration of the line and great tires but the motor is getting worked on now. I think it's over kill but thats the fun part.

 

Well if your going to compare the (big boys) the ford gt and the zo6 look at it with a numbers point of view. now this is just of the top of my head but I think I'm preaty close.

zo6
500hp v8 no super charger
about 3150lbs
$80,000
great front to rear weight ratio due to tranny in the rear
great drifter
top speed 200

ford gt
supercharged v8 = 500hp . . .
weighs a lot more than 3400 lbs thats 1/10 of a mile for every 75 lbs I think
$140,000
all the weight is behind the driver so it can oversteer and understeer easely
top speed 205?

.... Final verdict..... please give that Gt a smaller pully on the super charger! or put a supercharger on the zo6

 

But you do agree that ford had something to do with this. See I can just see Ford saying "we are not paying more money than we have to." But If it was not selling why did they return with the RX8. There is demand for this type of car maybe the body style helped out and even the power of the renesis cuz HP helps to sell. And I know Mazda prides them selves in being the only one to have prodused and marketed the rotory Unlike GM and Mercedes that hold patents for the rotory and never did anything other than a couple of concepts. You know that Mazda Wanted the rotory back in the USA after the they stoped producing the FD.

 

The ZO6 runs a higher displacement motor. The GT is only 5.4L. It also runs 550 horsepower. I'd like to see the new 2007 Shelby GT500 Mustang run a ZO6. That'd be a better race than an 04 Cobra. I think it'd really depend upon the gear ratio of the tranny in the Shelby as to who would win. I'd want to see that race more

 

But it still runs! LOL

 

I coulda swore I saw sleek lights (unless that was aftermarket).

 

Stop bragging about that Lingerlkjelkjr Crap twin turbo that cost what ? 70,000 dollars on top of the price of the car. YOU could build a 1500 HP SINGLE TURBO MUSTANG FOR 20,000 that would destroy that LL vette... I hate vettes and when people try to brag that their the greatest . AND its not a supercar its a chevy. Maybe supercar performance but nowhere near the quality of those supercars. geez which would u rather have..????

In the end it all comes down to how much money you have and your driving skills.. But money isnt everything either you have to know what ur doing. Buying all the best **** wont give you the fastest car.... their is always someone faster then you NO MATTER what car you drive...

I know some guys with junk yard completely stock 5.0 mustand motors with a big turbo about 900 hp and maybe 10k invested total running 8 sec 1\4 mile times. motors blow up and then buy another used cheap *** junk yard block for maybe 300 bucks..

 

Do the same work to a more powerful motor and a lighter car and you will get better performance. Yap your right it all comes down to the money anyone spends and that is why there is a big price difference between the vette and the stang. Dose that make it better? And thats why God created colors so that you can choose your favorite. I prefer the vette that has less weight the motor is behind the front suspension for less oversteer. and it is more aerodynamic than the 2006 stang. please note I like the 2005 stang and even my girl drives and 05 stang. But I think I know better. . . Don't tell her that. LOL thats why she's a girl. And even so How long is a car that is made for less than 300 hp and now has 3 times the power going to last. And I know this for I have a turbo car that is a peice of crap. a 96 Saturn Sl1 looks completely stock on the outside but I love blowing the doors open from some of these lil hondas. They never saw it coming. That is the way your mustang boys feel. And it's cool. As long as we have his gm ford dodge rivalry it makes the world a more exciting place! But in my world Vettes are entery level supercars that make tha ferrari's and lambos and even bmw's sweet *****!

 

At the end of the day though, these are sports cars, and the first priority is performance. Thats where the Z06 excels, so its doing what its supposed to at price per performance level which sets it nicely among the rank of supercars. You can't really dumb down a car like the Z06, while at the same time trying to uphold a mustang (even though the new GT's are very nice cars).

Modded cars are just up in the air, and as they get older, performance per dollar rules the day- nothing special with mustangs outside of their displacement.

 

Right, stop talking about the lingenfelter "crap twin turbo" that in reality cost 45 large and you get a two year/24,000 mile warrenty garentee. That means you could race the **** out of the car and when it breaks go get it fixed, I don't know but if I could have a warrentied 800 plus horse power supercar(and yes the new Z06 is a supercar chevrolet could put the price at 145,000 like the GT and call it one if they wanted) that still has A/C and power steering, still idols like the factory, passes emisions I would be all for it, plus how often would your pos 5.0 with 1000 shot naws last in real world driving(or would it even be legal to take to the streets and race a new Z06? yeah right keep dreaming bud).

 

No the car in the video had flip ups, which chevrolet stopped putting on the vette with the C6

 

Okay. You ,sir, are an idiot.

There are plenty of 500+ HP street foxes on the street which would rip the new Z06 a new one. Hell, there are plenty of 500+HP street cars that are streetable that will beat the z06. Where have you been living for the past 5+ years??..

Foxes and 1g DSMs are the domestic and import budget racing kings(respectively). And there are plenty who could clown a stock C6 Z06. With no nitrous BTW.

The Z06 would simply pull at a higher speed against most cars with similar HP levels due to weight and aerodynamics.

The new Z06 is a great car for the price, and can own 95% of the cars on the road. But lets be realistic here, the Z06's only competition on the street are 100+k cars and modded cars. So in reference to people saying that stock for stock is fair. No it isn't. No stock car cheaper than the Z06 can compete. You can only compare it with modded cars.

 

OK go by one and beat the **** out of it and drive back to lingenfelter when it does blow a pistion thru the hood and say "hey its warrentied right ? you fix it" I wonder if they will say its driver error and not there fault or actually fix it for you for free... YOU KEEP DREAMING BUDDY.

GM could price the car at 145,000 but they know better because noboby would spend supercar price for a CHEVROLET with ugly chevy interior and a 30 foot long hood to look over. sorry, thats the feeling I get when I drive one had to throw that in... the best thing the new zo6 has going for itself is the price but thats about it to me.. and im not saying mustangs are better either... I just love how everyone talks like the zo6 is the end all car... its a great car for the price but I could still think of a million other ways to spend my 75,000.

its going to be so funny once there are videos of turbo hondas putting bus lengths on the new zo6. whats a matter now little 1.8 liter is beating up on a 5.7 and has to cry about well if I had a turbo then things change....blah blah

 

The guy has pop up headlights. The new Z06s don't have pop up headlights.

 

*cough* 7.0 Liters

XD

 

LOL... oh yea... must of been thinking ls1... seems like chevy has to up displacement everytime it needs more power 5.7 - 6.0- 7.0 .. I guess they are maxing out there technology in those engines..

 

Ah, ok. I didn't get a good look (and it wasn't like he stayed beside the mustang long anyway).

Or just doing a damn good job of building them. With such an engine, the tuning potential is going to be great, while not even touching its reliability.

 

I think you were talking to me. I'll try to provide some info.

It's a Superformance mk111, 1965 Shelby Cobra replica. The real Shelby Cobras in new condition are over 2 million dollars now, so I went with a nice replica. They make them in South Africa as a rolling chassis. Carol Shelby endorses this particular build and has signed my car. Once in the USA you install the engine and trans of your choice. I went with the Roush 427R. Shelby and Roush seem to be teaming up, so it's probably the way to go. The engine is built by Roush off of a Dart 351 Windsor, bored and stroked to 427 cubic inches. Basically it's a small block with Roushed up AFR 205 aluminum heads, roller cam, roller rockers, forged this and that with the goodies to make it strong. Being a small block it saves quite a bit of weight over the big block. The bench test on 92 octane unleaded pump gas and a Holley 750 double pumper was 561. HP with 542 ft lbs. I'm running an 870 cfm carb now, but not sure what it puts to the ground. I have a five speed manual Tremec TKO TCET5008.

I drive around with about a 1/4 tank of gas so without me in the car it's under 2400lbs. The 700 + lbs less weight than the new Z06 and more power makes for nice acceleration. I recently picked up a set of M/T street drag radials which put my 0 - 100 in the 6s.

Here's a link to find info about the car.
http://www.superformance.com/mkIII.aspx

here's a drag radial rear view shot
http://members.***.net/gschroeder18/...%20radials.JPG

here's a good shot of the engine and stuff
http://members.***.net/gschroeder18/...aRoush427R.JPG

 

Ok . . . Ok. . . Start a small list of those foxes and make sure they are under $80k. Then I will state that zo6 is a piece crap but until then The zo6 is on the top of my list.

 

You where the one to start the statment that there are millions of modefied cars on this earth that will destroy the zo6 on the 1/4 mile. You easly speak about a go cart with a v8 that cant handle and can't brake but it is suppirior? No warrenty and about to blow up. Then you compare to millions of other cars that are over 100,000 that you like. nothting wrong with that But I could use 20,000 or more to fix up the zo6. or even get a second car. Maybe a Honda shivic for a daily driver. But all and all I belive there is no other car that will last a person 30-50 yrs that has 505 hp and mid11's on the 1/4 mile. That Is the epitemy of quality to me.

 

Hey Bro. That's sweet. The old saying is power to weight and you got it. I really like that Ford. How dose it handle I never road in one. but just of the top of my head you should be in the 10 sec. 1/4 mile.

 

The 427 / 7.0L is the Corvette's Leman's racing engine. They have been using it since they first started Lemans. With in a 5 yr period the Drivers of the Chevy team learned the tracks did their homework and finished kicking *** on the Audis porches jags, Ferraris, saleen (which I like) and all others for 3 yr's in a roe. They have and hold the championship right now on all foreign manufacturers. With the new Body style they decided to incorporate the same motor that won to their more expensive competitors and put it in to production. Yea it's the cheap man's super car. I will state it like that. But. . . I would defently laugh in anyone’s face that will spend more money on something more inferior to race in the same class. The only way to down the vette will be on the proving grounds of Lemans on the yrs to come. I hope the Foreigners have something up their sleeves for right now Chevy's rattling oil leaking valve tikin motors are kicking your expensive lower reliability foreign and expensive, Turbo charged ***. How great is technology if it can't handle the originality. And Like Rye Tacahashi says in the movie Initial D. "Every car has it's limit when you find it and you know you can't pass it, just get another one." The new vette's limit is up obviously up there with the expensively Big BIG Dawgs. And some one out there will push it's current limits even ferther.

The saying is and will always be "there is no replacement for displacement and when you can't bore any bigger then there is forced induction and NOS.

GM's Rule: Keep It Simple Stupid

 

If you think if its not possible to make a 500+hp fox for under 80k you are a moron.

 

That's a NEW Z06. The one with the 7.0L engine. NO POP-UP HEADLIGHTS!

 

I think we are talking about two videos here, one with a C5 and one with a C6.