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http://scca.org/documents/2011%20Tec...lo%20Rules.pdf
14.10.E says you still need a catalytic converter in there somewhere (As opposed to 15.10.I where "exhaust manifolds and muffler systems are free").
15.10.P Any metal clutch assembly, metal flywheel, or metal torque converter
that uses the standard attachment to the crankshaft may be used.
Non-metallic friction surfaces (e.g., clutch disks) are permitted. Dow-
el pins may be added. Any hydraulic clutch line may be used. Re-
placement or substitution of the clutch slave cylinder is permitted, but
this does not allow non-original methods of clutch actuation (e.g. pull
type versus push type).
So it sounds like the clutch line, flywheel, and not having a cat would be primarily what bumps you up. Don't feel bad, as I'm sure you filled out the form well and jumped through all the other hoops, it just got missed somewhere, if it even amounts to mattering. But now you know, so get back out there and eat those Miatas.
14.10.E says you still need a catalytic converter in there somewhere (As opposed to 15.10.I where "exhaust manifolds and muffler systems are free").
15.10.P Any metal clutch assembly, metal flywheel, or metal torque converter
that uses the standard attachment to the crankshaft may be used.
Non-metallic friction surfaces (e.g., clutch disks) are permitted. Dow-
el pins may be added. Any hydraulic clutch line may be used. Re-
placement or substitution of the clutch slave cylinder is permitted, but
this does not allow non-original methods of clutch actuation (e.g. pull
type versus push type).
So it sounds like the clutch line, flywheel, and not having a cat would be primarily what bumps you up. Don't feel bad, as I'm sure you filled out the form well and jumped through all the other hoops, it just got missed somewhere, if it even amounts to mattering. But now you know, so get back out there and eat those Miatas.
#29
The header and exhaust also bumps up to CSP (Emissions parts (Cats) cannot be removed), but the TII hood actually bumps it to SSM. No body panel changes, including hood, are allowed below SSM unless the part is from a car listed on the same line in the rulebook. The vert and TII are in separate classes so no parts can be interchanged.
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Best run of the day, but knocked the last slalom cone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nkQAN9AosE
:45 is when the action starts, my technique is all over the place, i need a little cleaning up but it works i guess lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgxGKj5ZQuQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nkQAN9AosE
:45 is when the action starts, my technique is all over the place, i need a little cleaning up but it works i guess lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgxGKj5ZQuQ&NR=1
#33
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Looks like fun!
I had a similar experience (winning novice class at my first auto-x) They didn't even have a class sheet, they just threw all the newbs into the "NS" class and called it a day. It was funny seeing CRX's to Corvettes all in the same group. Back then all I had was a set of Ground Controls and a cat back so I'm pretty sure I would have been in one of the stock-ish classes.
Now I'm looking to get back in and I'm interested to know where I would class w/ my current mods: 87' T2, stock port, stock turbo, v-mount, rtek, HKS EVC, RB exhaust, 17# flywheel, Ksports, FD wheels 245/45/16 (just picked up some Advan A032's but not sure if I want to run them just yet)
I didn't see v-mounts listed specifically in the rules, but it seemed to give some leeway on intake setups. The only thing that seems odd is that a BOV is grouped with Supercharger pullies and bumps you to SM. I also have a ducted hood (not installed) that might bump me as well.
On a side note, at the last event I saw an S14 w/ either an SR20 swap or a KA-turbo that was classed as STX
EDIT: Here are some classing resources...
First find your class based on mods...
http://www.odr-scca.org/DIY-classing.htm
Then find your category based on make and model...
http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/index.shtml
I had a similar experience (winning novice class at my first auto-x) They didn't even have a class sheet, they just threw all the newbs into the "NS" class and called it a day. It was funny seeing CRX's to Corvettes all in the same group. Back then all I had was a set of Ground Controls and a cat back so I'm pretty sure I would have been in one of the stock-ish classes.
Now I'm looking to get back in and I'm interested to know where I would class w/ my current mods: 87' T2, stock port, stock turbo, v-mount, rtek, HKS EVC, RB exhaust, 17# flywheel, Ksports, FD wheels 245/45/16 (just picked up some Advan A032's but not sure if I want to run them just yet)
I didn't see v-mounts listed specifically in the rules, but it seemed to give some leeway on intake setups. The only thing that seems odd is that a BOV is grouped with Supercharger pullies and bumps you to SM. I also have a ducted hood (not installed) that might bump me as well.
On a side note, at the last event I saw an S14 w/ either an SR20 swap or a KA-turbo that was classed as STX
EDIT: Here are some classing resources...
First find your class based on mods...
http://www.odr-scca.org/DIY-classing.htm
Then find your category based on make and model...
http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/index.shtml
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Are you talking about a white s14 that looked pretty beat with a huge spoiler? If that is the car i'm thinking that guy is running 500 horse and ranked as national champ in his class last year. Watched him at SCCA nationals in Dover Delaware a month or so ago. He's a fast driver.
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What, there was a novice class??? I first started 5 years ago in a Honda Crx and took 7th of 32 my first time out. I was in SM class due to the B20B motor swap and I didnt think I was fast yet. So I put Megan racing suspension in and some better rims and tires and after that I was top 3 every event in that thing, just did not beat one STI other then that you name it i bet it. Sold that and got 4 laps in my 91 B13 se-r with an sr20det swap before I broke an endlink and was out and sold back to the original owner. (I got the car running and he wanted it back and made some cash.)
I would believe in some other thread but the last post date was in 08 and I know rules have changed.
I would believe in some other thread but the last post date was in 08 and I know rules have changed.
#38
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Novice class is for beginners, once you win you are ineligable for the novice class and you will be classed according to where you belong.
Before I got started I went with my brother (74' chevy nova) and his friend (07' Honda fit) they were both in novice class with: C5 corvette, 90's sabb, Na miata, Toyota mrs, toyota tacoma, and mazda 3.
Neither of them won so they were in novice class again when I went. I won (closest comp was a 7th gen prelude about .5 back) and so the next time I went I was put whever a mostly stock TII (catback and ground controls) belongs , I think it might have been CSP
Before I got started I went with my brother (74' chevy nova) and his friend (07' Honda fit) they were both in novice class with: C5 corvette, 90's sabb, Na miata, Toyota mrs, toyota tacoma, and mazda 3.
Neither of them won so they were in novice class again when I went. I won (closest comp was a 7th gen prelude about .5 back) and so the next time I went I was put whever a mostly stock TII (catback and ground controls) belongs , I think it might have been CSP
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holy cow! it left out half my comment.
I am wondering what class I would be in in my 1993 Mazda Rx7 FD? I searched the SCCA site and look at what you had posted and still unsure on the class I would be in.
here what is done to the car:
Stock intake
Stock motor with stock turbo's
Stock rims with Hoosier slicks
full exhaust with CAT
upper front strut tower
Upgrade lower sway bars(front and rear)
racing seats
Koni Yellow suspension
I believe I am in ST but I just cant figure out the classes. Any one help me out to figure ou the class i would be running in? like I said in my other post, "I would believe another thread but that was in 08 and I know rules have changed since then."
I am wondering what class I would be in in my 1993 Mazda Rx7 FD? I searched the SCCA site and look at what you had posted and still unsure on the class I would be in.
here what is done to the car:
Stock intake
Stock motor with stock turbo's
Stock rims with Hoosier slicks
full exhaust with CAT
upper front strut tower
Upgrade lower sway bars(front and rear)
racing seats
Koni Yellow suspension
I believe I am in ST but I just cant figure out the classes. Any one help me out to figure ou the class i would be running in? like I said in my other post, "I would believe another thread but that was in 08 and I know rules have changed since then."
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holy cow! it left out half my comment.
I am wondering what class I would be in in my 1993 Mazda Rx7 FD? I searched the SCCA site and look at what you had posted and still unsure on the class I would be in.
here what is done to the car:
Stock intake
Stock motor with stock turbo's
Stock rims with Hoosier slicks
full exhaust with CAT
upper front strut tower
Upgrade lower sway bars(front and rear)
racing seats
Koni Yellow suspension
I believe I am in ST but I just cant figure out the classes. Any one help me out to figure ou the class i would be running in? like I said in my other post, "I would believe another thread but that was in 08 and I know rules have changed since then."
I am wondering what class I would be in in my 1993 Mazda Rx7 FD? I searched the SCCA site and look at what you had posted and still unsure on the class I would be in.
here what is done to the car:
Stock intake
Stock motor with stock turbo's
Stock rims with Hoosier slicks
full exhaust with CAT
upper front strut tower
Upgrade lower sway bars(front and rear)
racing seats
Koni Yellow suspension
I believe I am in ST but I just cant figure out the classes. Any one help me out to figure ou the class i would be running in? like I said in my other post, "I would believe another thread but that was in 08 and I know rules have changed since then."
do you have your stock downpipe (with pre-cat)?
if not you'll be in SSM, if you do, you're in ASP.
#43
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I'm moving out of CSP this year. I bought race tires last years, and started killing everyone (even SSM, etc.). I don't want to kill the competition in CSP, or force everyone to buy tires, so I'm "moving on up".
Time to start chasing the big dogs... lol
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Time to start chasing the big dogs... lol
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#46
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wow .. I never knew hte FB was such an impressive car ... SCCA down here in miami has competetive cars in just about every class . specially STR . and on ocasion SSM gets this supercharged Miata that kills , and in ASP there are vettes , GT3's , and I cant remember if the exiege is in ASP or another class but they all fight for FTD
#47
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if you have upgraded springs , you are in ASP , because of the seat , rear sway bar , upgraded springs you are in ASP .
reffering to RX7 btw lol
Last edited by Tem120; 01-22-12 at 08:45 AM.
#49
+1 I've been saying this for a couple years now. In the last 5 years at the Solo National Championships there have only been a few FBs in CSP. They all finished in the back half of the standings, myself included. I welcome you to come to Lincoln for the National Tour 5-57 and the Nationals 9-4 or you can go to Peru, Indiana for their Tour 8-4. There are others but farther away from you.
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this is incorrect , in A STOCK , you do not need the stock downpipe with precat , much less in any category there after specially ASP. lol
if you have upgraded springs , you are in ASP , because of the seat , rear sway bar , upgraded springs you are in ASP .
reffering to RX7 btw lol
if you have upgraded springs , you are in ASP , because of the seat , rear sway bar , upgraded springs you are in ASP .
reffering to RX7 btw lol
"Modifications of any type, including additions to or removal of, the
catalytic converters, thermal reactors, or any other pollution control
devices in the exhaust system are not allowed and the system must
be operable." p.79 of the 2012 Solo Rule book.
http://www.scca.com/assets/2012_Solo...ry_reduced.pdf
In Street Prepared you do have the ability to change the whole exhaust train, provided the exhaust is "quiet" and exits behind the driver.