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Old 11-14-03, 08:56 PM
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What's your favorite brake pad for road racing?

I have used Carbotech Panther pads in the past and was quite pleased with them. I was just wondering what everyone else has tried and liked...or disliked.
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Old 11-14-03, 10:17 PM
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Carbotech XP, Very nice, last, and DO NOT EAT you rotors, I can brake with anyone out there running blues, and I have rotors at the end of the day, Carl
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Carbotech XP1109s.

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Old 11-15-03, 07:32 AM
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Who is the best resource for Carbotech? Quick, before I go buy Hawk Blues for the front and blacks for the rear. Mind you the snow will hinder testing of any new pads for MONTHS. *sigh*
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I get them direct from Carbotech.

http://www.carbotecheng.com

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Best pads, bar none are Performance Friction race compounds. Their performance is superb, they don't dust much, they are easy on rotors, yadda-yadda. They are not cheap, but the best parts usually aren't. Everything else is a notch below.
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so what would be the best rotors? [can you tell i'm a newb?]
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Old 11-16-03, 01:53 AM
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Wilwood Polymatrix B or any of the specialized Performance Friction compounds.
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Old 11-16-03, 01:10 PM
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I dont think PFC or WIlwood makes a pad for an FB.
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Old 11-16-03, 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rx7carl
I dont think PFC or WIlwood makes a pad for an FB.
Hawk Blues are the pads on the FB I just got. I'm not sure about rotor wear. I do have 6 extra rotors. I guess I'll find out soon enough.
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I've used the Blues with success, but I have gone through some rotors :-)

I wanted to try the PF pads but if I recall correctly they don't make them (PF 93s) in the correct size for the stock FD calipers anymore--according to Pegasus Racing.
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alot of the PFC compounds are not "off the shelf" setups for street car calipers. people like Porterfield and others can bond the PFC compounds to any backing plate. this is not cheap but we are talking the "best" not the cheapest. you can get the brake material from PFC and others(in compounds that are not widely advertised) and contact some of the brake pad companies and they will mount the material to your backing plates.
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Hawk blues on very used never turned brake rotors.

Hey is the brakes that make it a race.

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Hawk Blues Always.
Used a set of Blacks at sebring for a "Chin" event on a ITA 1st gen... They weren't up to the short course. Next time there Blues.. and was fine. Minimal fade etc, and they stopped real well.
Used blues on a 86 Sport, and a 10 Anne.. and both cars were fine pushing em real hard, (Track events) for over a hour. Never overcooked em... and I tried LOL.
RX-3 used Blues also.. and well... Umm... The rotors are solid.. and at Daytona.. well... lets just say the RX-3 has inferior brakes and leave it at that LOL...

Have used Blues on the Track with No problems. DO NOT USE THEM ON THE STREET... Your rotors will die in a month. I tried.. And they almost never get up to temperature.. soooo they dont stop well.. and wear like crazy. On the track they are great. I just have a spare set or rotors and pads for the track.

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Performance friction if you have a good week at work otherwise Hawke
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how about wear with the different carbotech pads and street use?
ok or not recommended?
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I'd say the Carbotech bobcat for the street and then the Carbotech XP1108's on the front, and Carbotech Panther Plus for the rears.
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I don't mind changing rotors twice or three times a season on my dad's car, so we use Hawk Blues front, blacks rear (no prop. valve)
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I am running XPs on my SupraTT, very nice. I do left foot brake for about 200ft on cold mornings, but once you start driving they are low dust, linear, and very good initial bite. You will never fade them on the street, they are low dust, and very rotor frindly even when cold. The PF may be a better pad, but at 1.5-2x the price the PF are not in my budget, and I have yet to be signifigantly out braked by anyone in my run groups on the track. this includes 03 ZO6s, and 996TTs. Carl
BTW Barwicks second recomendation is spot on IMHO.
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I'm running Hawk HPs. Very satisfied.
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has anyone tried the hawk ht10? im looking at these for my next set. i use blues currently but i want something with more initial bite.
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Originally posted by specRX7_22
I don't mind changing rotors twice or three times a season on my dad's car, so we use Hawk Blues front, blacks rear (no prop. valve)
Seriously, you guys are using blacks on the rear with no bias valve? Wow. I tried that once...axle hop sux.
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Hawk blues are excellent pads. I have been surprised by how good their bite is. I recently switched from blacks to blues, and the difference is night-and-day. Into turn 1 at Summit, I was getting fade from the blacks just about every single time - I tried several different approaches to that braking zone, but they always ended up leaving me with basically no confidence as I approached turn-in. With the blues, using the brakes as I always had, I got absolutely no fade there, and I got much more consistent feedback. I also noticed much more precise modulation with the blues than with the blacks. After a few laps to adjust to the new pads, I was able to brake significantly later into turn 1 than I could have with the blacks.

I have never tried Carbotechs, but they have certainly been suggested to me numerous times by other racers. Maybe someday, but I am definitely happy with the blues!
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I also noticed minimal rotor wear with the blues. Not nearly as bad as I had expected, from hearing others talk about how they "eat rotors". The blacks ate more rotors than the blues ever have for me! I believe the issue to be that the blacks were overheating, whereas the blues are staying within their optimal temp range. The fade I experienced with the blacks supports this theory...

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Guys, use Performance Friction and quit messing around. They are the best available. 01s are my current favorite compound.
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