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Old 09-26-02, 12:53 PM
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Lightbulb What would be needed to get an 90 TII into Road racing?

I am thining about putting my car into the NHRA road racing circuit but i am wondering what is needed to do so. i mean what do i have to do to the car! does anybody know? do i have to take a course or something?
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um..

NHRA is a drag racing organization..

So are you looking to do drag racing or road racing (aka Grand Prix or circuit racing)? In which case, you have several organizations to choose from.

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umm sorry... i Knew that! ummm well it would be road racing and circuit racing!
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If you swap in an N/A engine, transmission and rear end with and SCCA legal rollcage and safety equipment you can run ITS with Silkworm. I'm not sure were the TII can run other than autocrossing.
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Actually, legally, he can't even do that. The VIN number on the body has to correspond to a model that is legal for competition.

However, you can run in a few classes, even wtih the turbo, but it depends on the SCCA region.

Here in California (and a lot of other regions), you can prepare your car to IT Rules (cage/safety gear/etc), and go run in ITE. Alternately, you could run SPO (don't quote me on that, I forget if they allow turbos, but it's a catch all class, so they should)

They really don't like turbo cars all that much.

So roughly, what do you need to do?

Install a 6-8 point SCCA Legal roll cage (you'll need the rules before doing this, SCCA has some strict rules on cage design)
Install 5 point harnesses
Install a window net
install a fire extinguisher
Install a seat brace (and preferrably a race seat)
Install an electrical cut off switch

I think next year, you'll be required to have tow hooks front and back, but not certain.

Those are absolute minimum requirements on what you have to add.

There's a lot of rules on what you can change/modify/remove, you'll need to get the rule book to go over all of those.

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You can also run NASA Super Unlimited. No rule with regard to performance, only saftey related rules included in the CC&Rs. I beleive this is the class Real Ride Racing competes in. I'll be running my TII/To4s in this class in the spring.
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NASA SU is a run what you brung class. no rules for performance modifications only safety items. my turbo II and a second one I built finished 1-3 in the LA region last year with three different drivers. both cars ran the turbo II engine, fiberglass bodies, and full slick race tires. In Canada you could run the car in the Canadian GT championship also. it is a series based on lap times and anything goes in that series also. unfortunately the SCCA club regions have a hard time with turbocharged cars so they basicly don't allow them. SCCA PRO series have allowed limited number of turbos and superchargers but still has a hard time regulating these cars.
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so where would i find imfo ont eh Cnadadian GT championship?
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Sorry, don't know on the CGT stuff. You might ask on ImprovedTouring.com

Let me ask you a question jreynish..

How prepared are you to get into this kind of stuff? If you don't mind, let me encourage you to go to my website and read over my story http://www.lcaf.com/silk/RX-7/rx-7.html

Can you build your own race car? Sure. no doubt about it. It's a wonderful experience, and when you're done, you KNOW this car inside and out. However, should you is the question you should be asking yourself. In my case, I'm a perfectionist, this was my first time building a race car, and I didn't know squat about my car in the first place (I knew cars, just not RX-7s). I started with a dead car on top of my misery.

As you can see from my story, it took me roughly 2 years and 9 months to get my car to the point where I can truly call it safely prepared for racing. It may not take you as long, but are you prepared to have your car sitting in your garage for months on end? Do you have a truck that can tow this vehicle to the track? how mechanically inclined are you?

Honestly, you're 1000 times better off buying a used race car from someone reputable. Make sure you get to see it run before you buy it (preferrably try it out on track for a session or two during an open track day). Buying a race car is pennies on the dollar in most cases, usually comes with tons of spares, plenty of wheels with spare tires, and oftentimes a trailer too.

If you aren't quite ready to buy a car, but just want to get out on track, consider looking into open track events at tracks near you. These events are run by organizations which allow you to bring your street car to the track, in a controlled way, to experience most of the thrills of racing, while minimizing (not eliminating) most of the risks involved.

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here is the link to the CGTCC download some of the rules and regulations. be warned there are some very fast cars and drivers in this group but they do allow alot of race cars that cannot be raced any where else. http://www.casc.on.ca/
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well i was simply dabbleing in the idea i am VERY mechanically inclined however not soo much with the Rx-7's but i am getting to know more and more as i work on my car! And the open track's have a pace car that doesn't allow me to even push my car whatsoever! which sux cause the pace car usually is slower than mine and doesn't handle as well!
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