Rotary Noob

I dont mind that people tell me if something may not happen, but more so that they treat me like im 5...thats what gets me.

I know that it may not happen, but ive already gone into that

True, technology is always changing.

I dont want a 700hp monster to start in, but with what ive been drivin 350 hp in the rx would be comparable (though the RX would be faster)

I have the resources available to build the vehicle, I dont have the money to buy one.

Ive read through a Bickel Chassis Manual, but understood less than 1/4th of it. That will change as i learn more at my school.

I would gladly go out and run in SCCA, IT or anything of that nature, if i had the money, and a second running car. I dont want to break my DD out on the track, and have 2 broken cars. Again, thanks for the useful information.

FDNewbie

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More than that. Sequential shifters are SLOW. The problem is, ppl see videos of Hanz in his M3 GTR literally FLYING through the gears in his sequential box, and they think that's how a sequential shifter works. What they DON'T realize is he's got prob half a million in electronics (like the Ferrari-developed ECU you referred to) enabling those lightning fast shifts.

Like many other racecar-related issues, this is one of those "if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it" typa scenarios. An all out sequential tranny SETUP (ie not just the tranny, but everything you need to go along w/ it) will run you wel over what a pristine FD goes for Or like fd20b said, over $20K

~Ramy

RETed

On the contrary...
Your lengthy reply point just the opposite.

Dreaming about stuff is not the problem.
Dreaming about stuff and wasting people's time asking questions that are basically useless (it's just a mental exercise) is a...waste of our time.

I told you to produce **** and then post.
You made up a big thread about how you're developing your light kit and...it's still not finished.
Hell, there's no reverse mold yet.
LOTS of excuses about how you need sleep and don't have time.
**** like that is wasting our time.
Sorry if everyone else babies your ***, but I'm not your mommy.

Here's a thought...
Why don't you finish the light kits first, and THEN ask questions like this after you're done?

Mental exercises like this unnecessarily clog up forums like this.
Why don't you try to keep the forums cleaner without this kinda trash?


-Ted

sereneseven

OK! rotary noob, yes i said sell everything and go to a racing and then you told me to stuff it well **** YOU, YOU WILL NEVER BE A PRO RACER!!!! and you will never race with these people

AJ allmindinger,memo gidly,leo mia,micheal mcdowell to name a few who have started with nothing and made it happen....how you ask???? selling everything and going into a racing school and meeting a rich guy to take them to the top as in -Carl Russo , Rob Finlay ..... so sorry for giving you facts about how to turn your dream into a reality keep dreaming **** head.

fd20b

RETed, why do you care what this kid posts? Do you have a life? If you don't want to answer him and you think he is wasting his time and dreaming, move on man....... Let him dream, let him waste my time or somone elses time.... Do you even race? Do you have a national championship in anything? It sounds like you are an old retired, grumpy guy that has nothing better to do than bitch or tear somone down......

Rotary Noob, ask away and dream away buddy... The sky is the limit. One thing you want to keep in mind here, everyone has the right advise and wants to give it out. When somone gives you advise, just ask them if they have ever done it before... If you got questions you can ask me, I will help you out.

As far as a GOOD tranny, like I said before 7k for a dog box (Jerico, not so POS T5 tranny that will break after a couple of races) or a sequentail Hewland that will run you 20k plus....

I have owned 3 Jerico boxes now and I am looking at buy a Hewland sequential transaxel box for my new FD project (it is going to cost around 21k)....

Oh yeah and I have won a national championship racing, BP 2006 and I will win many more in the future...

My carbon fiber FD I built this year will be in the March or April issue of Import Tuner. My old FD was on the July 2002 Turbo Mag cover (wide body 3 rotor FD)..

Jeff Kiesel

Rotary Noob

Why thank you, my dreams have been shattered, please oh please help me, whatever shall i do with myself that i will never be a pro racer....*goes and slits wrists in corner*

oh noes, you called me a **** head, im so offendeded. dur......

Lol. Im sorry but that made me laugh, and got me strange looks in class...

I honestly dont care how THEY did it, because im not them. What about Stephan Papadakis? He started with a Civic Si hatch on the streets, and autocross courses, now hes a pro, and making more money than he can shake a stick at.

I really dont care how other people make it in the world, because I am me.

Thanks for showing me your true colors, have a wonderful day.

RETed, you do sound bitter, but whatever. If you dont like what im saying, dont post about it, or just leave me alone, wouldnt be a loss to me if i didnt hear from you.

Thanks for that fd20b

sereneseven

Oh darn i really thought that spouting immature rederick whould break through to you since abviously rational thought processes are not one of your strong points.

and O my mistake i thought you were talking about trying to go pro in ALMS which would be the circles i work in and i asked around but no, no one here has heard of this papadakis guy? but than again I havent seen any civics around here either.

but good for you i'm glad you know who are and have a good career plan, I so know what you mean following other footsteps is so over rated re-inventing the wheel is so much better.

Rotary Noob

LMAO people are giving me strange looks for laughing in class again.

Yeah, your wealth of knowledge overwhelms me. I'm sorry that I laughed at you, I'm so ashamed. Papadakis is a legend in the sport compact drag series, and the D1, and has all the numbers to back it up. Including the most important one $$$$$$.

Name: Stephan Papadakis

Team: AEM Racing

Class: Pro RWD

Birth Date: February 8, 1977

Hometown: Redondo Beach, Calif.

Cars: 2003 AEM/DriverFX.com RWD Civic,
2004 AEM/DriverFX.com Honda S2000

Engine: 3.2L Acura NSX / 2.2L Turbocharged

Sponsors: AEM, DriverFX.com, Memphis Car Audio, DC Sports, Honda Factory Performance Toyo Tires, Motegi Racing, Advanced Clutch Technology, Specialty Products Company,Garrett Turbo Systems, Cosworth, Modern Image Signworks and G-Cube Designs.

Best 1/4 Mile E.T. : 6.52 seconds

Best MPH: 213.5 MPH

Not exactly a bad ending (especially for the money he is making from his sponsors) for a guy that started with a Civic.

It is a slightly different direction than i want to go, but I dont care, still shows what you can do when you put your mind to it.

Keep thinking that you are something special, im sure someday someone will think so...it just wont be me. Learn correct grammar, and how to type. Would it really kill you to put an "h" after the O, or capitalize the "a" in and? I would think someone that works in a place of such awesome power as yourself could write a decent sentance....

Youve given me a few laughs though, so thanks for that. And now, (and I honestly mean this) Have a nice day.

sereneseven

LOL wow you really have put alot into this, do you have a poster of him in your bedroom??
sorry your right all of my advice about driving schools was just silly street racing will teach you so much more and its free and you must be good considering you raced all those guys on the freeway and never crashed.

never meant to imply i was somebody special i meant i just have special needs
I love it when people resort to grammer insults

EProdRx7

Now that's some funny ****! Thanks serenseven.
So "newb" what I said before about hanging on every word should have also included keep your big "I think I know it all already" mouth shut. Most of the guys you should be following around like a hungry puppy, the team bosses, have forgotten more then you will ever know about racing. They are willing to teach as most of us are willing to give advice about racing but you need to have respect for the experience that they have gathered over many many years. If you are serious about a career in racing stop the dreaming and start getting involved. People ask me all the time how I have learned the things that I know, it's because it not the first time I've done it... One project will lead to the next. I watched a guy at Limerock align his car with string and a tape. He let me help and after I said to myself, "I could do that" so I did. That lead to a better understanding of how the suspension works. One of many lessons learned by being a good listener and getting involved. Are you getting my drift.

Black91n/a

Does anyone else find it funny how he says he wants to get a $5-20k tranny when he can't even afford to go racing in one of the cheap classes?

I thought I was a reasonably good driver too, untill I did my first driving school at the track. I'd also done go karts before and was reasonably good, but that didn't stop me from sucking at the track. Driving a car is very different.

Seriously, track time is more important than building a fast car.

sereneseven

"And all you people saying well sell everything you own go to a racing school hope you meet a rich guy...STFU dude. You sound like a retard for saying things like that. Im not a moron, I realize that it takes many things to race, and live (at the same time) in this world. Some of which are: stable financial situation, transportation, food to eat, place to sleep, gas, tires, parts...the list goes on. I REALIZE THAT."

um, does this make any sense to anybody??

Rotary Noob

Ive noticed that you have special needs, one of them is your typing, and your spelling. Maybe you could go back to high school, and ride the short bus everyday?

I dont have a poster of him, im just more open to more classes of motorsports than you it seems. Im not allowed to remember what I read? Im not allowed to use google to get that set of facts?

You really do think that im ignorant dont you? Yeah i raced on the freeway, ive done stupid things, but you see, ive learned from that, and ive never been arrested for it, knock on wood. Ive been lucky, and fortunate in my experiences so far, but I have never stated that I am a god on the street or track. You forgot to include that i see, which means youre trying to make me seem like an irresponsible, ignorant, arrogant fool.

But, this is entertaining, please insult me again, it takes up time, and has proved entertaining so far.


Okay, since you bring up the money issue that ive already covered, ill go over it again. I have said that I dont have money, I was asking what you thought about it. I wasnt asking you to test the feasibility of me actually buying the thing. Because I dont have the money, youre right. But that doesnt bother me, because I wasnt planning on buying it, or at least, not anytime in the near future.

Yes i get your drift, there are people that have more time doing what I would like to do, with far more experience than i have.

I dont respect anyone that hasnt earned it however, yeah, they know more, alright, yeah ill listen to them, but what theyve done doesnt inspire me to automatically make myself their bitch and try to kiss their *** to see what i can learn.

Honestly (really, not sarcastic at all) I am glad that you have a better understanding of how everything works, and im sure that you have a better car as a result. Maybe, I will have that same knowledge eventually, and be able to set up my own car in the future (because as of the present, I cant, for the simple fact that I dont know enough).

I realize track time is important. This is just an idea i had when i was thinking one day, after watching the 24 hours at sebring. Sorry that I actually wanted to ask a question and see if anyone had some practical real world knowledge about it.

The car is only as good as the driver, Yes, i would agree with that. I know that I have more that i could learn. I understand that, but dont have the money. Yes i would like to get involved, no i dont have the money. Is that a crime? Going to school, surviving off Ramen, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, paying rent and tuition?

Rotary Noob

Alright, screw it, more than likely, Im not going to get you to understand what im trying to say, so whatever, say what you would like.

I was only trying to ask a simple question, but yet again, stupidity won, and all i got was flames about my age and monetary situation. Thanks guys, thanks alot.

To those that actually helped, thank you for your opinions, and advice.

You know what I find hillarious about this though? The fact that if i was 30, 35, or 40, more of you would probably have decent advice to give me. Not just act like I'm a retard and give me **** about every little thing.

sereneseven

ah welcome back

so you insult me and so i respond in a simalar manner and all of a sudden i'm the guy picking on you LOL

you asked a question that many race fans ask like "how fast does it go" its a one those things that doesn't have an answer and if you have to ask.......you also mentioned you wanted to go to ALMS well what i told you were the facts starting out without $ means you have to dedicate your life to your goal and even then you need to be lucky. and then when i told you you will never be a pro, well it is pretty abvious that you don't have the dedication to follow through on your dreams considering you don't think you will have to eat **** sometimes to get what you want.I've seen a lot of guys just as good as AJ who just werent in the right place at the right time or thought they were to good to be a rich guys bitch.

your really to easy you know, thanks i had no idea who papadakis was really no idea, my point was your comparing apples to oranges you can't compare a mid level drag race guy to being a paid driver in a top level pro roadcourse/oval series

as for you being ignorant and arrogant....mmm yes i agree considering you admit that you don't know what your doing (thats the ignorant part) but than when people who do offer advise you tell them to STFU cuz you already know what your doing(thats the arrogant part).

sereneseven

ok since your still online i asumme you are trying to come up witth a witty response....i however am going to bet so i will finish my part of this thread with my favorite line

"THE BUMS WILL ALWAYS LOSE"

Rotary Noob

No, i asked a functionality question. There is a difference. You arent the bad guy, you just dont understand the point that im trying to make to you apparently. The point is, that all i wanted was information about a true sequential dog box, and not a whole lot of **** about my ideas. Let me reitterate.

I didnt ask for advice on my life, or how to function, whether or not it was true. All i wanted to know about was the %^#damn transmission. I dont care what small percentage there is, so dont give me all your theories and **** about how it wont happen, im not interested in hearing them. Oh yeah, i will never be pro, I cant handle the stressssssss!!!!1111eleventy.

Youre welcome on the info for papadakis. He is however not just a "mid level" drag racer. He is a very well paid, sponsored, professional driver. Just because its not road racing or oval track doesnt mean its not a motorsport event (drifting isnt racing...). Yeah, its different from autox or something of that nature, but its still something he gets paid for, for driving.

You have it twisted. I admit that I could stand to learn more. I know enough to be functional in an everyday situation.

The arrogant part however you misunderstood, I dont want to hear your theories or your **** about how it will never happen. You dont know that, you dont even know who the hell i am. And now youre going to say that it doesnt matter if you know me or not, or that you dont care if you know me, you know my type. Maybe im generalizing with that a little too much though. Who cares. The point is, you dont know what ive done, my experiences, or my thought process. The same is true for you. I have no clue who you are, what youve done, etc. But then, i wasnt trying to judge you.

I dont ask how fast it goes, mainly because I can watch and see how fast it goes.

Rotary Noob

how very big of you. You will finish your part of the thread and everything is settled the heavens will part, and you are god. Glad to hear it.

Dont let the doorknob hit you on the way out.

RETed

Ah, someone who worship Papadakis...
You realize that he used to be some punk *** street racer before he got big in import drag racing?
You wanna do pro road racing, but you worship a Honda drag racer?

Oh, I tell you what...
Since all I see from your pics is your wannabe V8 FC stuck on ramps in the middle of some overgrown field (that paints a really good picture that you can afford all of this?), why don't you put up a dig pic of your account balance or a wad full of $100's...and then I'll shut the **** up.
Deal?


-Ted

Black91n/a

One thing that's VERY different with someone like Papadakis and ALMS pros like Wayne and Will Nonamaker is that Steph got in at the ground level of an emerging series that went from being amateur level to pro, it's very different in the road racing world. You can't go to the ALMS with just you and your tuned street car, stay there long enough and eventually become a pro driver with sponsors. That's more or less what Steph did, he got lucky and was in the right place at the right time, if he'd been racing American cars he'd still be an amateur. Don't think that it'll happen to you, those were some very special circumstances.

The reason everyone's not being super cooperative is that you're essentially wasting their time asking them to give you an answer you'll never need/use, then getting mad at them for telling you how to learn more. This is just another case of bench racing, but instead of dreaming on your own you just had to invilve others. We really don't care about what far fetched plans you have. Try to keep an open mind and be polite, if you start acting like a jerk, no-one will want to help you learn. Not to make this an age thing, but you need to grow up and stop having temper tantrums and getting all pissy at the smallest little thing.

The bullshit walks when the flag drops. A racecar isn't going to set any lap records if it never gets on track.

Once again. SEAT TIME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!!!

Rotary Noob

I dont worship papadakis...or his civic. Im just saying he started from nothing, and look where he is now.

Yeah, he used to street race. And? Just because you used to street race, or did a few times, doesnt make you a horrible person, yeah, not the smartest thing to do...but oh well.

Its not a wannabe V8 FC...The V8 is in the vette that is in the background, (dont remember which picture, but its there) I plan on keeping the 13b in the 7. Yeah, its on ramps, its not running, need to replace the clutch. Not in an overgrown field either. Its a 20x40 dirt area in front of where I live, where the owner of the property said i could put it. Though i can see where it looks like an overgrown field.

If i had hundreds of dollars, gladly. I dont claim to be a millionaire. I just have ideas/thoughts, and they happen to cost lots of money...is that not allowed? ...****, i thought it was a free country and all that...

Just because I dont have a large bankroll, doesnt mean that I wont save up and actually do things to this car.

I dont care if you like me, hell I know you dont respect me. I dont expect you to, honestly im not that disillusioned. Just try showing me a little common courtesy, and dont condescend towards me every post i make, and I wouldnt have any issues with you.
Deal?

Again on the FC on ramps thing, did you not notice the headlights and the mounting brackets had been removed? That i had mocked up a new design and documented it IN the car? That i had taken pictures of the mold concept that I am now using?

I swear, just because im 18, and posted an idea, people flame me. You didnt flame the guy that was making the Hella light kit for the FC, modifying the flip up design. He hadnt even started it when he posted...He just had more money, and engineering/cad experience behind him.

As for school and sleep, yeah, they are kinda required you know that? What is more important, school, and getting a marketable skill, or making headlights for my car, I wonder...

I should get some work done on them this weekend though, but thats not a promise.

How about this though, If i produce something, get a picture up, and get it posted, will you actually take me seriously? Thats the real question right there, isnt it?


Black91n/a:
You do have some insight there, but correct me if im wrong, Im allowed to ask questions, arent I? Yeah, im pissed off, because people keep telling me that it wont happen/cant happen/or how to live in general. It digs at me, i still bleed red.

Im only wasting their time, if they think they are wasting their time posting, but even then I didnt force you, or them to read or reply to this. I dont think you are trying to make it an age thing with your post here, but take a look back, I didnt start the rock slinging, though I did take part in it.

If people will talk to me like civilized human beings, then im more than willing to talk, but when you attack me personally, yeah im gonna get defensive.

Amen to your saying. I like it. I think im going to use it, if you dont mind.

RETed

Ah, 18...that explains a lot.
Thanx for sharing that with us.


I work 16 hour days and barely get 5 hours of sleep on the weekdays.
I make no excuses.


Um, I think a lot of us are waiting on this?
Dude, some serious advice...
You should've had something in hand before starting the thread.
Right now I think the majority of the thread is about you making excuses about not having the time.
If you had the product (or the prototype), this wouldn't be an issue.

I'm working on a custom front bumper myself.
No, I don't start threads and advertise that I'm doing it.
It's a side project.
It's been two years already since we started.
I knew it was going to take time.
I'm not about go advertise that I'm making one and see if anyone is interested.
Do you see the picture?


-Ted

Rotary Noob

Well, i suppose you at least arent hypocritical, or at least i havent found that to be the case, so i cant fault you there.

yeah, im 18. Is there a problem with being young? Im sorry i wasnt born earlier, i suppose I couldnt help it though, wasnt really by choice...

Im glad you can work with 16 hour days and 5 hours of sleep. My body doesnt function that well when i try to skimp on sleep. I have school for 10 hours, have dinner, go to work and stay there for 4 hours, come home, and sleep. I get out of school at 2am, and out of work at 7am. School starts at 4:30pm.

Intersted to seeing the design of that bumper. Hope to hear more about it in the future, ive been looking for one that I think looks decent. Havent found one yet.

Yeah, people will be less assholish about stuff if you can prove youve been doing stuff. I get it.

Edit: my question about you taking me seriously was rhetorical, i dont think you actually would, even if i did have the part done.

EProdRx7

"You know what I find hillarious about this though? The fact that if i was 30, 35, or 40, more of you would probably have decent advice to give me. Not just act like I'm a retard and give me **** about every little thing."

Maybe if you were older you would understand how immature these coments sound. Remember that most of the people responding to your question are doing so because we are older (I'm 41) and have done the same stupid **** when we were 18. I hate to see you make the same mistakes we made. Again , go find a race team in your area, be their bitch and get the knowlage you are going to need to earn the respect that you think you deserve.

Rotary Noob

I dont think i deserve respect, honestly. All i want is some common courtesy, and i would be more than happy.

Im no ones bitch, fuuuck that. I dont mind learning, listening, being mentored, but forget that noise about being on call 24/7 365. That doesnt work for me. I do understand what youre saying though. I need to get into the racing scene before i can START racing...that makes perfect sense. And it would definitely help my cause...