eage8

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For all the guys running DTC-70s in the front, are you running stock calipers? are you custom ordering the 70s from hawk? I don't see and application for the FC or the FD...

Also what tires are you guys running? I imagine in street tires you'd probably want do to a DTC60/30 anyway.

Brent Dalton

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On my FD, I have stoptech ST40's in the front and RS/RZ in the rear(which use stock size pads). The 70's are available for the stoptech's, but the 60's are the highest available for the rears.

088

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I'd like to know as well. The Hawk dealer didn't think that was an option, however, which is why I ended up with HT-10 front / Blue rear.

I haven't tried that, but, here is a data point with the 10/blue combo.
On a set of heat cycled, scrubbed-in Hankook Ventus Z214 C51 (medium compound) with car weight at 2800 lbs. Ambient temps 60-65F on a sunny day.

First two laps required a bit of special care. I had to modulate and extend my braking zones as I got heat into the tires. Otherwise, it was fairly easy to lock the fronts or the rears, depending on the corner and slope. (I haven't needed to do that with any previous tire / pad combination -- it just might be a bad match.) Once the tires were up to temp, I could shorten the stopping distance a bit and pretty much had the right amount of stopping power. I'd say that, under threshold braking, I felt a little bit too close to the threshold the rest of the race. I can deal with that, but not being able to brake late in the first two laps compromised my competitiveness just when it was needed most (field is tight, and need to clear some cars). But it would be fine during an open track day, qual, or even time trials, where only the best lap matters.

How 10/blue would compare to 60/30? Hard to predict. The Hawk brochure tries to be helpful with a bunch of charts having little red blocks that try to measure stopping power, fade resistance, etc., depending on vehicle weight and application (hawkperformance.com/downloads/brochure-road-race.pdf), but it doesn't really answer where the 'older' compounds fall on the friction scale compared to the DTCs.
I wish Hawk would just publish mu (coefficient of friction) numbers or charts.

hollowfikation

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I have run carbotech with great success when I had my s2000. I plan on running carbotech for the FC as well. Anything xp8 and higher can withstand very high brake temps with no fade. I ran xp10 front and xp8 rear for the s2000.....with proper ducting I plan on running xp12 and xp10 for the fc.
http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp
pricing won't break the bank either

088

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^ +1 for carbotech. I used to run XP10 front on my FC (and some less aggressive rears of unknown brand). The main issue was that Carbotech brake dusk is extremely corrosive compared to most other brands. After prolonged use, the dust particles reacted with my SSR GT7 rims, leaving them unesthetically pitted (not a huge issue for a road racer, but this was a dual-purpose car at the time). The 5zigen FN01-RC were a little more resistant. FWIW, I ran XP10 front / XP9 rear on my Mazdaspeed Protege with equally excellent results. The OEM Racing Hart wheels are painted and the dust simply washed off.

Add another +1: If you have an odd application, just send your old pads to Carbotech and they will return them with new linings in a friction compound of your choice! So, in theory, applications = all vehicles.

hollowfikation

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You had issues with the corrosion of the brake dust? I never had those issues....I've seen issues with the corrosion from Hawk pads, but not carbotech...normally hosed off the brake dust and I was good to go, I used Rays 57motorsport wheels and they are painted.

eage8

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right on the pad descirption carbotech says their dust is non corossive... odd.

I talked to mazdaspeed about the 60/30 combo and the guy I was talking to runs that same combo on his spec miata and likes it a lot. I think I'll give it a try. hopefully they'll hold up well to 300whp and 2750 lbs. Just ordered some front brake ducts too...

my brother runs XP10/8 combo on his 300 whp s2000 on street tires and was going through a set of pads per HPDE weekend... it's gotten better now that he's running RP2 enduro pads on the front and made some brake ducts but it still made me hesitant.... They're more expensive than the hawks too.