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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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My 15 year old RX-7 chasing down Ferraris

Coaching for the Ferrari club at Thunder Hill







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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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would have been a fun day to be there
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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So, you were instructing for the Ferrari club? And you went faster than the students?

You could have done that in a first gen.
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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So, you were instructing for the Ferrari club? And you went faster than the students?

You could have done that in a first gen.

LOL, I'm such a child.



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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Thanks for sharing, I always love to see video of RX7's being tracked.

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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It must've been the cinematography, or the fact that this was an instructional session, but that video looked like a Sunday drive. I don't mean that in a disparaging way... the shifting seemed lethargic, the exhaust was stock-sounding almost, the braking was very gradual instead of at-the-limit of control that you would expect, and you easily pulled ahead of those Modena's in a straight line. But since you were instructing, I presume they were just trying to learn the line anyway so you were coasting through.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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You saw "lethargic" while I saw "smooth". I don't think he was trying to "learn" the line - his turn ins, apexes and track-out seemed pretty much spot on. Now I'm not an instructor, nor do I play one on TV, but over the years I've had many in my car. I have seen some that were almost violently twitchy in throwing the car around the track. I've had others who made a very big point of not upsetting the balance of the car. Both had something very valuable to teach me.

Just MHO,

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Smooth driving! Thanks for sharing.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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if you didnt have a stock seat, you could relax, and not have to grip the steering wheel do hard, and it would help you w. head room.

and spring/ shock combo?
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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love the Fer-ricer fly bys at the end!
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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love the Fer-ricer fly bys at the end!
Are you serious? It is on a track...
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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regardless of you being the instructer, it musta been pretty cool to pass a ferrari in your 7...
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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damn, that's ******* awesome!!
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Nice driving! Loved the ferrari shots at the end, the race prepped car sounded EVIL
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadwick
Thanks for sharing, I always love to see video of RX7's being tracked.

Dan
Me too. You all need to put a camera in yours cars and post more vids.

You saw "lethargic" while I saw "smooth". I don't think he was trying to "learn" the line - his turn ins, apexes and track-out seemed pretty much spot on.
Danky. Definitely no more than 7/10s driving there. I consistently remind myself that I'm in a street car.

f you didnt have a stock seat, you could relax, and not have to grip the steering wheel do hard, and it would help you w. head room.

and spring/ shock combo?
Head room is a big problem. Eibach pro springs Ohlins shocks.

regardless of you being the instructer, it musta been pretty cool to pass a ferrari in your 7...
Yes, yes it was.

Nice driving! Loved the ferrari shots at the end, the race prepped car sounded EVIL
There were two 355 challenge cars there, and they were sinkin fast. It was great fun to watch them play with each other.

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Dang, Paul, I've got to bring the Beast out to one of your events so we can really lay down a waxing on those fellas. I guess if I had over 100K of machine I'd probably nurse it like they were...no I wouldn't. Hell, I've got 60K in my car and I flogged it pretty good by the 4th session my first day (ran a 2:23 in group 1 with passing only on the straights, stuck in really timid newbie traffic in the turns). I can't believe how quiet your car is - I've got Pettit's race muffler and even with the resonated midpipe it still make quite a racket - do you have the RB muffler?

And yes, Paul drives a smooth line - for those of you not familiar with Thill you can see how at mark 3:47 (turn 3) Paul is a good 1/2 car width closer in to the inside that the 355. That turn is off camber about 1.5 degrees on the inside, and goes to around 3 degrees off camber if you get more than a car width wide. That's why he so easily caught the 355 cabriolet through that corner without adding any throttle - the 355 driver had their left side in the 3 degree off camber zone and it probably made the *** end of that rear engined car very light, even at those slower speeds.

Go little rotor, go!
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Dang, Paul, I've got to bring the Beast out to one of your events so we can really lay down a waxing on those fellas. I guess if I had over 100K of machine I'd probably nurse it like they were...no I wouldn't. Hell, I've got 60K in my car and I flogged it pretty good by the 4th session my first day (ran a 2:23 in group 1 with passing only on the straights, stuck in really timid newbie traffic in the turns). I can't believe how quiet your car is - I've got Pettit's race muffler and even with the resonated midpipe it still make quite a racket - do you have the RB muffler?

And yes, Paul drives a smooth line - for those of you not familiar with Thill you can see how at mark 3:47 (turn 3) Paul is a good 1/2 car width closer in to the inside that the 355. That turn is off camber about 1.5 degrees on the inside, and goes to around 3 degrees off camber if you get more than a car width wide. That's why he so easily caught the 355 cabriolet through that corner without adding any throttle - the 355 driver had their left side in the 3 degree off camber zone and it probably made the *** end of that rear engined car very light, even at those slower speeds.



Go little rotor, go!
Get the beast up here! Hook on Driving has got a lot of cool events coming up, including a Historic NASCAR run group at a two day event and a charity event for "Tracking for the Cure" Benefiting Susan G. Komen For the Cure of breast cancer.

http://www.hookedondriving.com/home.cfm

Paul

oh yea.. I have a RB duel tip and stock cat and my car is very quiet, but have been meatball at Laguna for sound. Go figure.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Shoot, your HOD events are so blessed expensive....but it's hard to ignore the amount of track time you provide.....my employment issues continue to be murky and until that gets sorted out my racing time is limited.

In re to this comment:
Paul said "There were two 355 challenge cars there, and they were sinkin fast. It was great fun to watch them play with each other."

How fast is 'stinkin', from a lap time perspective?
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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ummmm...
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Old May 6, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by justint5387
Are you serious? It is on a track...
Hell no! It was supposed to be funny... but I guess on the second throught it wasnt as funny as I hoped. Oh well, whatever, this thread is still a WIN!
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Old May 8, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Gotta admit I really like the sound of those ferraris

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Old May 11, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Going out with your students is like shooting fish in a barrel! No surprise you could catch them and leave 'em in the weeds. That said, you still whipped Ferrari butt with a lowly 7, and that is going to be fun. Got to admit, I did the same kind of thing this weekend at a school. Satisfying, but hollow. Ya' gotta beat your peers to have meaning, as opposed to just fun.
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