Looking for help with race parts
02-09-07, 02:01 PM
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Looking for help with race parts
History: My uncle raced a 2nd generation E-Production RX-7 under team name FROG (Fast Revving Old Geezers) built by Mariah Motorsports. This car did not turn out to be as good as he wanted so he was having another RX-7 built by another company. The car was not completed before he passed away about a year ago. My aunt recovered the parts that were to be used and has asked me to sell them for her. I know what most of the parts are but I could really use some help with a few of them, especially the motor. The company that was to build the car kept very poor records and even lost some of the parts so we are not comfortable asking them for help selling the parts or identifying them. I have listed all the parts on my website along with pictures and descriptions, www.type1r.com/forsale/index.html. I will start selling everything once I can get a handle on the following parts. Thanks in advance for all your help.
I will start with the motor. I was told this motor was professionally built by Dave Patrick in Bakersfield, California. Does this name ring a bell with anyone? There are three areas which have been stamped. Both of the rotor housings have “KB001” stamped into the top of them which I assume represent my uncles initials followed by which motor it is. There was supposed to be two motors built but the other is supposed to be at Dave Patrick’s house or shop. The other stamping is on one of the rotor housings near the Mazda 13B casting which is “PRE.” I am not sure what this means and I was hoping somebody would recognize it. The motor appears to be all new but I can not be sure without taking it apart and I am neither willing to ruin a good motor or skilled enough to do it. Looking in through the exhaust ports I can see the rotor and the walls of the housing which both look shiny and new. I can even spot some of the lube the builder used to pre-lube the housing walls. Is there any way to tell if the motor has been run or not or the brand of the rotors? My uncle was the kind of guy who bought the best out there so I am wondering if the rotors are lightened. If the motor is all new with the dry sump what would it be worth?
The strut housings I have appear to be AWR units with struts already in them. I am wondering how to remove the strut from the tube. There is what appears to be a large nut on the top of the strut with two holes in it. Is there a special tool that is used to turn this or am I missing something?
The subframe looks like it is brand new with the AWR toe modification done to it. Is there a way to find out if it was refurbished, like a VIN stamped in it somewhere, or a lock washer that would leave an impression? I would hate to say it is new and have it turn out to be used.
The fuel cell is an odd shape. Can anyone tell me if this appears to be for an RX-7?
I can only find information on the web about a front Speedway Bar for the 2nd Gen RX-7 but I have two. They are different thicknesses and the arms are different, leading me to believe that one is for the front and the other is for the rear. Is this correct?
I have two flywheel ring gears. One has an aluminum center hub, is there supposed to be a friction plate that bolts to this because these look like they are for an automatic transmission?
Do camber adjusting plates sell separately from the Ground Control Shocks or should I sell them together?
The power steering rack has the holes plugged to hook up the power steering lines, is this correct or are the plugs to keep dirt out during shipment? Does Mazda Speed sell refurbished racks?
Do these steel brackets look familiar, I can’t figure out what they are for. (Please see website)
Same goes for these aluminum brackets. (Please see website)
-New 13B motor which was built by Dave Patrick.
-New PBS transmission with quick change gears, mounts and linkage.
-New PBS gear set 29 tooth and 36 tooth
-(2 sets)New PBS gear sets 29 tooth and 30 tooth
-New Torson limited slip differential
-New ring and pinion. 43 tooth ring and 10 tooth pinion (4.33)
-New flywheel ring gear. 116 tooth
-New flywheel ring gear. 116 tooth with aluminum center hub.
-New Ground Control Advanced Design adjustable shocks.
-Used Ebaich springs.
-Used AWR front strut housings with adjustable spring perches with unknown struts installed.
-New 10 gallon Fuel Safe fuel cell with bladder and necessary hardware.
-New Peterson 3 gallon oil tank.
-New Peterson 400 Series oil filter
-New Peterson scavenge filter.
-New Momo carbon/Kevlar racing seat. Nascar K/C model
-New fiberglass wide body fenders, front bumper with air dam, rear bumper, hood.
-New fiberglass under tray pieces.
-New Mazda rear subframe with AWR adjustable toe modification.
-New lexan windshild
-New lexan rear window
-New Burns Stainless TIG welded stainless steel exhaust system.
-New AWR 3 ˝" aluminum intake
-New AWR Mazda control arms (left and right) with needle bearing modification.
-New Speedway Engineering sway bars with arms.
-2 New sets of Hawk rear brake pads blue compound.
-New Hawk front brakes pads black compound.
-New K&N air filter
-Refurbished? Koyo steering rack with power steering holes plugged.
-New AWR subframe and differential housing bushing kit.
-Factory rear spoiler in white
-Unknown steel brackets
-Unknown aluminum brackets
-New Tilton aluminum pedal set with (1) 5/8" and (2) 3/4" master cylinders.
Thank you for the assistance,
Mike
I will start with the motor. I was told this motor was professionally built by Dave Patrick in Bakersfield, California. Does this name ring a bell with anyone? There are three areas which have been stamped. Both of the rotor housings have “KB001” stamped into the top of them which I assume represent my uncles initials followed by which motor it is. There was supposed to be two motors built but the other is supposed to be at Dave Patrick’s house or shop. The other stamping is on one of the rotor housings near the Mazda 13B casting which is “PRE.” I am not sure what this means and I was hoping somebody would recognize it. The motor appears to be all new but I can not be sure without taking it apart and I am neither willing to ruin a good motor or skilled enough to do it. Looking in through the exhaust ports I can see the rotor and the walls of the housing which both look shiny and new. I can even spot some of the lube the builder used to pre-lube the housing walls. Is there any way to tell if the motor has been run or not or the brand of the rotors? My uncle was the kind of guy who bought the best out there so I am wondering if the rotors are lightened. If the motor is all new with the dry sump what would it be worth?
The strut housings I have appear to be AWR units with struts already in them. I am wondering how to remove the strut from the tube. There is what appears to be a large nut on the top of the strut with two holes in it. Is there a special tool that is used to turn this or am I missing something?
The subframe looks like it is brand new with the AWR toe modification done to it. Is there a way to find out if it was refurbished, like a VIN stamped in it somewhere, or a lock washer that would leave an impression? I would hate to say it is new and have it turn out to be used.
The fuel cell is an odd shape. Can anyone tell me if this appears to be for an RX-7?
I can only find information on the web about a front Speedway Bar for the 2nd Gen RX-7 but I have two. They are different thicknesses and the arms are different, leading me to believe that one is for the front and the other is for the rear. Is this correct?
I have two flywheel ring gears. One has an aluminum center hub, is there supposed to be a friction plate that bolts to this because these look like they are for an automatic transmission?
Do camber adjusting plates sell separately from the Ground Control Shocks or should I sell them together?
The power steering rack has the holes plugged to hook up the power steering lines, is this correct or are the plugs to keep dirt out during shipment? Does Mazda Speed sell refurbished racks?
Do these steel brackets look familiar, I can’t figure out what they are for. (Please see website)
Same goes for these aluminum brackets. (Please see website)
-New 13B motor which was built by Dave Patrick.
-New PBS transmission with quick change gears, mounts and linkage.
-New PBS gear set 29 tooth and 36 tooth
-(2 sets)New PBS gear sets 29 tooth and 30 tooth
-New Torson limited slip differential
-New ring and pinion. 43 tooth ring and 10 tooth pinion (4.33)
-New flywheel ring gear. 116 tooth
-New flywheel ring gear. 116 tooth with aluminum center hub.
-New Ground Control Advanced Design adjustable shocks.
-Used Ebaich springs.
-Used AWR front strut housings with adjustable spring perches with unknown struts installed.
-New 10 gallon Fuel Safe fuel cell with bladder and necessary hardware.
-New Peterson 3 gallon oil tank.
-New Peterson 400 Series oil filter
-New Peterson scavenge filter.
-New Momo carbon/Kevlar racing seat. Nascar K/C model
-New fiberglass wide body fenders, front bumper with air dam, rear bumper, hood.
-New fiberglass under tray pieces.
-New Mazda rear subframe with AWR adjustable toe modification.
-New lexan windshild
-New lexan rear window
-New Burns Stainless TIG welded stainless steel exhaust system.
-New AWR 3 ˝" aluminum intake
-New AWR Mazda control arms (left and right) with needle bearing modification.
-New Speedway Engineering sway bars with arms.
-2 New sets of Hawk rear brake pads blue compound.
-New Hawk front brakes pads black compound.
-New K&N air filter
-Refurbished? Koyo steering rack with power steering holes plugged.
-New AWR subframe and differential housing bushing kit.
-Factory rear spoiler in white
-Unknown steel brackets
-Unknown aluminum brackets
-New Tilton aluminum pedal set with (1) 5/8" and (2) 3/4" master cylinders.
Thank you for the assistance,
Mike
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02-09-07, 05:52 PM
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It has come to my attention that my description of the Mariah Motorsports built machine stated above comes across as if I were claiming they build inferior vehicles. This is not was I was getting at and in fact that exact car won the 2004 SCCA So-Pac National Region Championship and is pictured on the home page of their website. I have met the gentlemen at Mariah during the initial shakedown of the car and I must say it was a stunning machine and all the guys were very professional and knowledgeable with their cars.
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02-10-07, 01:17 PM
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Mike, sorry to hear about your uncle. A great place to post these items will be, http://prodracing.com/prodcar/
That motor is a nice piece of work. The build details would be most interesting. Assuming that it has ceramic seals its worth a bunch. I would venture a guess at $6K+. (Build cost much higher than that)
There are a number of people racing the second gen in EP, should sell fairly quickly.
good luck!
Paul
That motor is a nice piece of work. The build details would be most interesting. Assuming that it has ceramic seals its worth a bunch. I would venture a guess at $6K+. (Build cost much higher than that)
There are a number of people racing the second gen in EP, should sell fairly quickly.
good luck!
Paul
02-10-07, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cpa7man
Mike, sorry to hear about your uncle. A great place to post these items will be, http://prodracing.com/prodcar/
That motor is a nice piece of work. The build details would be most interesting. Assuming that it has ceramic seals its worth a bunch. I would venture a guess at $6K+. (Build cost much higher than that)
There are a number of people racing the second gen in EP, should sell fairly quickly.
good luck!
Paul
That motor is a nice piece of work. The build details would be most interesting. Assuming that it has ceramic seals its worth a bunch. I would venture a guess at $6K+. (Build cost much higher than that)
There are a number of people racing the second gen in EP, should sell fairly quickly.
good luck!
Paul
Paul,
Thank you for your help. I am currently working on getting the specs on the motor to assist in selling and also the gearhead side of me is intrigued by this motor. I appreciate the link to the production racing website.
Mike
02-10-07, 11:00 PM
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I have received knowledgeable advice on most of the parts I was having issues with. Can anyone identify those brackets? Does anyone have a link to a company carrying the Tilton clutch assembly showing the aluminum ring gear and some prices? Thanks again for all your help!
Mike
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