Koni 8611 Double Adjustable in FD possible?
07-16-07, 10:15 AM
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Roen,
This $1600 cost of revalve and adding compression adjuster is what I want to avoid.
The thought of using 8611 was that it is off the shelf item with double adjustment at cost of about $300/piece, for total of $1200 instead of $1600 + $600 on your figures.
For total of $3000 like your solution, I might just add $500 for a Penske coilover setup and included suspension tuning by Guy Ankeny.
This $1600 cost of revalve and adding compression adjuster is what I want to avoid.
The thought of using 8611 was that it is off the shelf item with double adjustment at cost of about $300/piece, for total of $1200 instead of $1600 + $600 on your figures.
For total of $3000 like your solution, I might just add $500 for a Penske coilover setup and included suspension tuning by Guy Ankeny.
07-16-07, 10:32 AM
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remember, you still need to revalve your damper to match your springs. That's about $150 per corner. You save about 400 dollars, but you lose the ability to drive around with Koni's while you figure this thing out. =P
You just have to measure the dimensions of it and see if it matches the body of the Koni shock for the FD. See if the attachment points are the same as well. If not, then just call Koni and see what they say.
You just have to measure the dimensions of it and see if it matches the body of the Koni shock for the FD. See if the attachment points are the same as well. If not, then just call Koni and see what they say.
07-16-07, 01:45 PM
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FD is about 0.7:1
Did everyone miss my post a few posts ago on how to do it for the FD? It's not that hard, if you have the money. It's completely written up already!
I even listed which parts to buy. It may not be an 8611 but it's functionally identical to one. (Independent compression and rebound adjusters + custom valving to match custom coil-over springs from Eibach Race Springs/Ground Control)
I don't trust Japanese brands for one reason alone: hearsay. It's a horrible reason to dis-trust them, but I'm not fond of non-independent adjusters that adjust both compression and rebound at the same time, i.e. lockstep.
For further reading (even though the subject matter is autox, it can also apply to road racing), please read http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html
It's a page on which shocks the author thinks is good, and which shocks, in his word, are "crap."
Here are the cost estimates for the FC setup, I think the FD setup may be quite similar.
Koni Struts: $680
Revalve plus add compression adjuster: $1600
Ground Control Coilover Kit w/ Eibach Race Springs (these are linear, unlike the Eibach pro-kit, which I believe are progressive and crap for hard track driving): $409
Ground Control Camber/Caster Plate: $299
Total: ~$3K
I think high-end Japanese coil-overs cost $4k?
If you have even more money, you can look to see if Ohlins, Penske, Moton, or JRZ have fitment with their independent triple or quadruple adjustable shocks. (independent high and low speed compression and rebound adjustment). But I think this is like $10k or $10k a corner? Something ridiculous.
Did everyone miss my post a few posts ago on how to do it for the FD? It's not that hard, if you have the money. It's completely written up already!
I even listed which parts to buy. It may not be an 8611 but it's functionally identical to one. (Independent compression and rebound adjusters + custom valving to match custom coil-over springs from Eibach Race Springs/Ground Control)
I don't trust Japanese brands for one reason alone: hearsay. It's a horrible reason to dis-trust them, but I'm not fond of non-independent adjusters that adjust both compression and rebound at the same time, i.e. lockstep.
For further reading (even though the subject matter is autox, it can also apply to road racing), please read http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html
It's a page on which shocks the author thinks is good, and which shocks, in his word, are "crap."
Here are the cost estimates for the FC setup, I think the FD setup may be quite similar.
Koni Struts: $680
Revalve plus add compression adjuster: $1600
Ground Control Coilover Kit w/ Eibach Race Springs (these are linear, unlike the Eibach pro-kit, which I believe are progressive and crap for hard track driving): $409
Ground Control Camber/Caster Plate: $299
Total: ~$3K
I think high-end Japanese coil-overs cost $4k?
If you have even more money, you can look to see if Ohlins, Penske, Moton, or JRZ have fitment with their independent triple or quadruple adjustable shocks. (independent high and low speed compression and rebound adjustment). But I think this is like $10k or $10k a corner? Something ridiculous.
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