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Old 01-15-06, 05:07 AM
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i was wondering!?

well im going to enter my first drift event with my 86 rx7, and i was wondering i don't have lsd but i will get one soon and ill probly be trying to drift with open dif, and i heard that i will put a lot of stress on the rear end if i don't have one, is this true? also is there anything affordable for my to get so it will make dirfting easier?(besides lsd)
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really really hard tires?

Honestly, if you're worried about stressing your car this isn't the right sub-forum for you.

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Old 01-15-06, 09:52 PM
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why not which forum would be best for this topic
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First - Drifting isn't racing, and this is a racing forum. Most of the posters here are not trying to say that "Racing is good and Drifting is bad", they just recognize that they are completely different activities attracting completely different participants. Yes, most of the roadracers that post here are abundantly acquainted with the application and control of power oversteer, but we are primarily swapping technical info that will make us faster around the track. Drifting is a subjectively judged "artistic" competition that consumes most of the resources that racers are trying to preserve - like tires, motors, bodyparts, and public opinion.

Second - A question like yours suggests that you have a very poor understanding of both the vehicle dynamics of sliding automobiles, and the basic physical and mechanical operation of limited slip rear ends. Before asking a group of technically oriented people to spoon-feed you a lesson, perhaps some time with the search feature of this website and an internet search engine is in order to EDUCATE YOURSELF. Even if some of the good hearted posters here felt like going back to kindergarten and helping you out, you probably lack the basic terminology and understanding to tell whether they were giving you good information or bad!

Third and last - Whether fairly or not, "drifters" have earned themselves a negative reputation as a bunch of young, disrespectful punks who have problems with authority and rules in general. Since you live less than 20 minutes from me, I have legitimate concerns as to how you intend to practice your "drifting". The Puget Sound has a very well developed autocross scene that is fun, educational, competitive, affordable, and SAFE. It gives some very valuable opportunities to learn about vehicle behavior at the limit, and learn about the potential of your car, both modiified and unmodified. There are also two major roadrace sanctioning bodies (ICSCC and SCCA) in your immediate vicinity where you can learn about high performance driving and racing, and develop yourself as a driver far beyond anything you can currently imagine. What I don't want to see is you taking a ratty, poorly prepared, unsafe car out on public roads and killing yourself and/or innoccent bystanders trying to impress your peers in the "drift club". If you actually want to help legitimize "drifting" as something more than just dangerous and unskilled driving performed primarily by irresponsible sideways-hat-wearing, poorly educated teenagers with attitude problems then I issue you a challenge. Break the mold - learn to do it right, in a safe environment, with respect for those who don't want their wives or children killed on the way to the grocery store by irresponsible drivers. Oh, and learning to capitalize, spell, and punctuate could only help you look a little educated and responsible.

Contact me if you want some info on some real local opportuities to make yourself a driver.

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Originally Posted by cooliomo
why not which forum would be best for this topic
I was just being a smarty-pants.
I guess what I was trying to say was that long term longevity is usually a secondary concern of most race car drivers. "Through the race is good, through the season is great..."
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Dood..... "I can't wait to put a Strawberry Face on my Kouki"

I thint khe answer lies with a tightly packed factory LSD, and yes, trying to turn your car sideways and drive with incredibly high slip angles will work your diff. See thread below.

Bos- good thread here: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1492750
(for reference, "crx lee" is Lee Grimes from KONI NA)


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