Could you say that again............in English

 

hahaha
He thinks teds an idiot and you don't know what you're doing, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks!!

 

i am no expert but i have two good friends that drifted the crap out of FC's the panda's. i honestly don't know exact setups but they both did very well! the ebrake should be used for minor adjustments. i tried to drift my FD out of all the times i tried i got it to drift two turns ever. its mainly due to that i suck lol

i'm building a S13 and S5 T2.....sooo we'll see what they can do. roomate has a S5 T2 also that he drifts decently all it has turbo back exhaust and hks hiper coilovers. i'll have some new videos in a month

 

Why can't anyone ever stick to just answering the damn question?

This guy didn't post this thread asking for drifting advice! Why do you all feel compelled to come in here and shout: "I'm a better driver than you, nyah nyah!" ?

Anyways...

So far the best idea I've heard is to use a clutch cylinder. You'd probably want to put it on the left like a porsche 944, that way you can keep the stock e-brake for safety and passing state inspecions.

On an FC there is only one brake line going to the back brakes. This means you would only need one cylinder.

You'd have to do some math up front to get the right diameter clutch cylider though, and the right length lever arm for the handle (& clyinder attachment point). I bet you could build a prototype for less than $100.

 

It sounds like you don't get it either...

It's like someone asking...can I run 20" rims on my FC?
Sure, it can be done, but if there was a "better" alternative, wouldn't you suggest it?
That was my point.
I find the original posters point for this mod to be unnecessary, so why bother trying it?  Sure, if he wants to go ahead and try it - more power to them.

I was trying to prod how well this guy can drift.  If you don't know the drift scene by now, there's a LOT of posers and fakers who don't know what the **** they are talking about.  There are very few know how an FC/FD reacts under drifting, and pursuing a hydraulic handbrake system hints to ignorance.

Hey, I was just trying to save the guy some wasted time and effort.  But if you're all for experimentation, just go for it...


-Ted

 

It's a bright new day Everyone simmer down a little...

 

Not to jump on the band wagon but I gotta go with Ted here. I'm not a champion drifter..but I do have a little experience.

I never found any real success in the sidebrake, it would snap the fc around so unnaturally I didn't like it. Even inside my underpowered NA lifting off accel or trail braking works way better for me because it seems like more of a natural controlled transition. Of course this only works if you enter with a pretty damn good amount of speed.

aka less snap. The ebrake isn't your friend in FC from my exp, its better to just use other methods imho.

just my 2 cents, I'm not too sure if I know what I'm talkin about any comments Ted?

 

I have tried not to add any more to this thread, since the original poster got all insulted.

You seem to understand what I was trying to say though...


-Ted

 

I'm sorry, but I'm so busy lately I hardly even read the threads and really can't put more detailed answer. And this kinda debates can take forever, I usually back off. However, just think about what I have to say and tell me if there is any common sense in there.

I agree with you braking drifts and lifts are very controlled, more than hand brake. (Handbrake can also be very controlled, if you do it in the straight and you left it engaged for a while, while you gradually keep increasing the angle of the car).
But sometimes, snap is advantage. Why? Imagine, in certain point, you want instant oversteer. Your car is stable, but you want oversteer in tenths of second. No pre-drift moves and precalculation of how to enter the corner involved, no additional place needed to do it, just pure response. This is when it comes handy. For example, counter drift before the main drift of the corner on a narrow and tight path.
I know, you have other means to do it. E.g., shift lock or clutch kick. Very similar good response, but very agressive on material in imho.
This is the case why I want it and why I need it. I know it can be used for some corrections inside the drift, but frankly I've never used it this way and don't have big plans on using it this way, at least at this point of my skill.

There's one point I'd like to say. Drifting is quite a subjective thing actually, because technique is subjective. So please all of you take this in consideration. Saying someone is 100% right, or that HANDBRAKE is totaly useless - this tells more about subjects character and attitude than anything else. No matter how good you're, there's always someone better. I don't nearly want to say I'm more skilled here than my opposers. Just want to say, that usually there some truth in everything.

And TED, regarding you visiting Europe. If you come somewhere near Slovenia, we can meet. There are quite some limitations in this case, about my car being finished/track_ready, me being adapted to the car, limited tracks and track events in small country as Slovenia and my schedule is also quite full sometimes. If you were for real, shoot a PM and we can figure out something...