Race Car Tech Discuss anything related to road racing and auto X.

First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 2, 2012 | 11:37 AM
  #26  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Well there is the first problem= disco potato! hehe

You think 2 years of racing and rings is a short life? Seriously??? I would change the rings at least once each season just to make sure it is all good! Has he done the cooling reroute mod? The stock cooling on the Miata's is not the best. The thermostat housing need to be relocated!
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2012 | 11:40 AM
  #27  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
jrx13, yes they do make pretty nice parts. I am actually looking at getting the Smartwire system as well. I have a contact to get new parts at about 15% under retail. Not bad when you are dealing with something that is $2g!

Originally Posted by MazdaMike02
awesome thread, i look forward to updates.
Thank you, there will be more updates on a daily basis, promise!
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 05:34 PM
  #28  
jrx13's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Likes: 2
From: San Francisco, California
Originally Posted by abeomid
jrx13, yes they do make pretty nice parts. I am actually looking at getting the Smartwire system as well. I have a contact to get new parts at about 15% under retail. Not bad when you are dealing with something that is $2g!



Thank you, there will be more updates on a daily basis, promise!
Smartwire would be really really nice. What about engine management? Make it all integrated! Cameras too and fire system, all of it! (Yes I'm living vicariously through you!)
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2012 | 05:36 PM
  #29  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
I have a MegaSquirt MS3+MS3x. They have a module for the megasquirt as well which bring most of the data needed in. The only external sensors I have got for the racepak are the oil temp (engine, trans, diff) and oil pressure!
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2012 | 01:53 AM
  #30  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
The steering column is in now! I can steer the car now!









Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0316.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0317.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0318.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0320.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0321.jpg  

Reply
Old Oct 6, 2012 | 09:53 PM
  #31  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Finally with the long weekend here I had some time to put the turbo manifold together. Definitely fun work!











Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0324.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0326.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0329.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0332.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0333.jpg  

First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0334.jpg  
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 08:42 PM
  #32  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Had a small turbo (GT35) sitting around and figured I put it on there until the EFR shows up. One bolt should hold it for now!











Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0337.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0338.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0339.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0340.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0341.jpg  

First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0342.jpg  
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2012 | 10:52 AM
  #33  
nofords's Avatar
Mr. September FB 2011
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
looks great!

What is your plan for heat shielding on that exhaust?
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2012 | 12:51 PM
  #34  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Thanks! Well the header will be coated inside and out. Possibly a shield for the turbine housing. Aside from that, not much. I mean all the brake and clutch parts are in the cabin, so the heat shield is really to keep under hood temps down!
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2012 | 12:58 PM
  #35  
chicagozer's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 128
Likes: 9
From: Foster City, CA
I had no idea the Miata motors would make that much power. Wow.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2012 | 08:41 PM
  #36  
craaaazzy's Avatar
Slowly but surely
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,678
Likes: 10
From: GA
Very nice build! I wish I had the time, money, and skills to do this myself. If only i won the lotery. Subscribing...
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 01:03 AM
  #37  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Thanks! Yes they can make good amount of power with enough boost!

I have the side pipe figured out! Will make the mounts this week!







Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0343.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0346.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0348.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0353.jpg  
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:42 AM
  #38  
nofords's Avatar
Mr. September FB 2011
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
My comment regarding heat shielding was pertaining to the fact that it was in your passenger compartment.

Not only will it be loud, it will be hot too!
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 07:53 AM
  #39  
dream36realms's Avatar
死*神*
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
From: Delaware
very nice build going on here. If I had the money and time, I would totally be doing a similar project. although mine is based on the LSx motors. I just like the idea of gutting the car to its bare minimum then doing the cage work followed by ALL fiberglass body to include the floor. might leave the roof metal with a sunroof though since after it is done it will be a daily driver
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 01:28 PM
  #40  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Originally Posted by nofords
My comment regarding heat shielding was pertaining to the fact that it was in your passenger compartment.

Not only will it be loud, it will be hot too!
Well there will be a box built around the exhaust with gold shielding. One thing you have to remember is that this is not a rotary, so it will be a couple of hundred degrees cooler to start with. On top of that the turbo will cool down the exhaust further. We have done similar setup on a few rotaries with no issues. So I am confident it will be fine. Same goes with the noise. There are quite a few miata's that run on track with turbo and no muffler. Two main reasons I went with the BP engine over rotary. Less noise and less heat. With a rotary, you have to have muffler coming out of your ying yang to meet sound requirements. Tired of dealing with black flags!
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2012 | 01:30 PM
  #41  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Originally Posted by dream36realms
very nice build going on here. If I had the money and time, I would totally be doing a similar project. although mine is based on the LSx motors. I just like the idea of gutting the car to its bare minimum then doing the cage work followed by ALL fiberglass body to include the floor. might leave the roof metal with a sunroof though since after it is done it will be a daily driver
Thank you! Unfortunately money and time are not the only thing that feed this project!
The roof is steel. That's one part of the car that needs to be original even for racing. I wouldn't want to have a car like this as a daily driver. It will not be the best thing on the street! Getting old for that!
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2012 | 09:33 PM
  #42  
getgone's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 331
Likes: 4
From: Scottsdale, AZ
I love to see these projects, but--like BigAl's build--when do you guys get to the point of racing it. I've 'built' my own as well only I've only really torn **** off to strip it down, not custom build the components/chassis.I get alot more track days that way. Haha. Have fun with this.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2012 | 12:55 AM
  #43  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Well I have other cars to race. This one will just win races! haha

Well the exhaust is all done and welded. Only piece required will be an elbow from the turbo to the flex when the turbo shows up!









Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0363.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0364.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0366.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0367.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0369.jpg  

Reply
Old Oct 12, 2012 | 08:43 PM
  #44  
nofords's Avatar
Mr. September FB 2011
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Originally Posted by abeomid

That's some damn tight clearances!
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2012 | 11:09 PM
  #45  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
There is more room than it appears. As well the pipe will move down and back once some more trimming is done and the new sheet metal is added. But yes it is close to the crank angle sensor!
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:02 PM
  #46  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Well the rear suspension is finally done. The brackets arrived and are welded now. I partially mounted the exhaust too and it has the proper clearance I was planning on!











Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0371.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0373.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0374.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0375.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0381.jpg  

First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0377.jpg  
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 01:16 PM
  #47  
slapshot's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Thanks for posting ths build. Great fabrication and fun to watch.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 01:39 PM
  #48  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Thank you! I have more:

The coolers' location and mounting has been redesigned for a better venting out of the hood and under the car. It is a v-mount system now. The exhaust is fully mounted now too (excuse the crappy photo) and I have made a mount for the windshield defroster.









Attached Thumbnails First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0395.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0396.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0398.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0399.jpg   First Gen Race car Build - Mazda BP Engine-img_0400.jpg  

Reply
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:02 PM
  #49  
scrapp's Avatar
89GTUs (38k original mi)
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 678
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Im speechless....... This must be my lucky month, Ive been curious about miata engines in rx7s for a long time now, and this is the second one Ive found within the week. Its not an FC, but at least it falls within my requirements of needing to be a true racecar.


So cool. I understand everything your doing and why. so happy to follow this build, congrats!
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2012 | 02:30 PM
  #50  
abeomid's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Thank you! It has a FC subframe if that matter, hehe!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:05 PM.