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Old 12-03-09, 06:14 PM
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To build or not to build.

I've just recently purchased another FC and was considering making this into a track only car. To race in the G70 series or GT sprints in ontario. I've spent about a year looking for a track only car and have not found any or at least one that I was willing to spend the money.

Is it worth while building one? Any websites or complete build threads?

What I will be doing is taking my 400rwhp+ 10th AE and converting this back to stock and building this FC up that already has a majority of track ready parts.

Sort of a hard decision as its a costly venture but something I've always wanted to try. For sure this project will take some time to come together.

I already have a fully prepped race engine but might be better to have a slightly less expensive engine to start to weed out the gremlins.

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Old 12-03-09, 06:29 PM
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Old 12-04-09, 02:18 AM
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I just started my build up from a $200 FC, I dont regret it. Would be easier to buy a car yep, but I love building things, and its going to be so much more fun knowing I built the car in the end..
Comes down to priorities, do you want to just get in and drive? Or do you WANT to build a car?
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The general advice is buy your first track car, build your second.
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I just built a 20b bridgeport with a dogbox tranny, I have to tell you that is the most impressive rx7 i have ever been in. It feels like a true race care, so if that is in your budget do that swap
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Just do it Ian. If I can be of any help let me know. Garth, whom worked alongside Joe at RPM does incredible cage work at a reasonable price. We just picked up the peripheral port race truck from him. It helps that you're close to the three tracks you'd be frequenting. Maybe a tow dolly to keep things on the cheap side the first season? A tow vehicle/transporting a racecar is a big hurdle for many. I loved building mine because I now know every bolt, nut, seam, etc. intimately.
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Old 12-04-09, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zayrx7 View Post
I just built a 20b bridgeport with a dogbox tranny, I have to tell you that is the most impressive rx7 i have ever been in. It feels like a true race care, so if that is in your budget do that swap
No budget for something like that. Maybe once the whole car is set up and raced for some years I could move up to a 3rotor/dogbox. Right now even with the big turbo the first few years will be run at a relative low boost for reliabilty and for me to "learn" racing.

I could only imagine how much fun a 20b with dogbox tranny would be
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Old 12-04-09, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerJason View Post
Just do it Ian. If I can be of any help let me know. Garth, whom worked alongside Joe at RPM does incredible cage work at a reasonable price. We just picked up the peripheral port race truck from him. It helps that you're close to the three tracks you'd be frequenting. Maybe a tow dolly to keep things on the cheap side the first season? A tow vehicle/transporting a racecar is a big hurdle for many. I loved building mine because I now know every bolt, nut, seam, etc. intimately.
Well I am not sure who to get a cage done by. The roll bar in my 10th AE was done by Obrien motorsports and is a piece of art.

Are you tracking next year?

Peripheral port race truck??
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If you need any stock engine bay thing Ian let me know.
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What class are you planning to run in?
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Originally Posted by Gene View Post
What class are you planning to run in?


http://www.casc.on.ca/roadRace.php

I plan on running the G70 series to start. Then move up to the GT sprints. You run in a time bracket. If I break out of the time I move to the next class so I plan on starting at the bottom and working my way up.

Problem is I will be using all of my big turbo/ems from my 10th AE so my car will be way faster then I.

I swung by my buddy's shop who has been racing for years and now races a 20B 3rd gen thinks that to build an FC up will be very expensive. That is to build it up properly Just a proper cage alone will be $4000. I had my roll bar installed 5 years ago with full interior and pretty much a half cage for $1500. I'm a huge novice and really do not know the whole costs involved.

All I can say is I will take my time and if it takes a few years to build so be it...............

nismo... Thanks for the offer. I will PM you if I need anything. By the way I no longer have your email account. I tried send an email from work one day and it bounced back....
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[url]nismo... Thanks for the offer. I will PM you if I need anything. By the way I no longer have your email account. I tried send an email from work one day and it bounced back....
Yeah, I don't Work for OPG any more contract expired, so I'm now a Union Millwright, so no email access.
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That's an interesting classing system. Makes sense, you can build your car exactly as you like and always have someone to race against.

You could just buy this:

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...38357404pp.htm

If you're just starting out racing and want a rotary, I highly recommend starting out with something slower and cheaper to maintain than a 3-rotor turbo
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Old 12-08-09, 06:31 PM
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I've built my FC over the last six years or so. Early build pics are on my website www.rxracing.com.
I have a dog box 13B about 400rwhp and 2300 lbs of car to push with it. I run Yokohama Slicks and the car is pretty well sorted now. In my local (Alberta) Time attack series I was able to beat a Porsche GT3 and a corvette Z06 (505 hp version).
Honestly, a better starting choice might be an FD.
The FC is a fun platform and it does quite well with what it has (struts and multi-link) but I think the FD might be a better platform.
The FC will need toe steer eliminators and springs/dampers to even get in the same ballpark as the stock FD from a handling perspective.

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Originally Posted by TrentO View Post
I've built my FC over the last six years or so. Early build pics are on my website www.rxracing.com.
I have a dog box 13B about 400rwhp and 2300 lbs of car to push with it. I run Yokohama Slicks and the car is pretty well sorted now. In my local (Alberta) Time attack series I was able to beat a Porsche GT3 and a corvette Z06 (505 hp version).
Honestly, a better starting choice might be an FD.
The FC is a fun platform and it does quite well with what it has (struts and multi-link) but I think the FD might be a better platform.
The FC will need toe steer eliminators and springs/dampers to even get in the same ballpark as the stock FD from a handling perspective.

-Trent
Awesome website. Going to read all of it An FD would be better but I have two FC's. Both to nice to build in a track car really. The wife will kill me if she see another car
It also seems I need to move now and get a bigger garage
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It also seems I need to move now and get a bigger garage
Yes. The hardest part about having a track-only car is finding a cheap, safe place to keep the trailer (and truck).
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