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Old 07-07-07, 09:15 PM
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Brand New Pineapple Racing engine

I have a brand new - never been installed - never been fired - Pineapple race engine with LSP and 3mm ceramic apex seals. It's a 5-year/60k gauranteed engine with all the goodies (cryogen, porting, oil loop kit, etc.)

I spent $5600 on it, but will part for it for $4000-$4500 if someone can use it.

All work was done by Rob Golden, I kept in close contact with him the entire time the engine was being built.

BEST ROTARY ENGINE YOU CAN BUY IN THE STATES.

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Old 07-08-07, 12:13 AM
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Darn, that sucks. Why are you selling it?
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damn good price. If I had the extra $$$$ laying around I would pick it up as a spare engine.
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Iím thinking about getting this engine, but I was wondering if this engine streetable?

Being a í71 I can run any setup that I want. Also what would be a good turbo for this engine (GT35R)?

Iím building my 510 from the ground up, and am wondering if this is a good start?

Iíve done a lot of searching and reading about what engine setup to run, and come up with a 13b w/ GT35R. With my final end weight being less than 2000 lbs Iím thinking that 400hp would be monstrous.

Thanks for your input
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Originally Posted by eyevan View Post
Iím thinking about getting this engine, but I was wondering if this engine streetable?

Being a í71 I can run any setup that I want. Also what would be a good turbo for this engine (GT35R)?

Iím building my 510 from the ground up, and am wondering if this is a good start?

Iíve done a lot of searching and reading about what engine setup to run, and come up with a 13b w/ GT35R. With my final end weight being less than 2000 lbs Iím thinking that 400hp would be monstrous.

Thanks for your input

That might be a little aggresive for the 510 chasis. You might want to go tube frame. Haha

A 510 with a sr20 engine weighs about 2200lbs, what mods do you have to bring the car less than 2000?

I was building a 510 sr20de and ended up selling it at about 80% finished. There is lots of money that goes into those things just to get them running with basic engine swaps. For 13bs you usually cut the firewall to get the engine mounted further back. It can be done without it, but the engien will sit pretty far foward
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emailed-no reponse. I was wondering if the engine was streetable as well.
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Sorry for the lack of responses...

The engine is streetable, it just has a 'loppy' idle unless you set it to 1100rpm or more.

As for a race engine, max power, you couldn't ask for a better 'start' - the engine will make you 600hp easily with the right setup, just assume 15-20% more horsepower than a stock 13B-REW at any boost level. The ceramic apex seals and cryogen parts are just for max reliability, which I spared no expense when having it built by Rob.

I actually just noticed on Pineapple's site that they don't list motor rebuilds any more...did they stop making engines? I thinking I'm starting to get cold feet to sell this thing - right now I don't think I could take any less than $4500+ Sorry.

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If any serious buyer does want to fork over that kind of cash for their project, I also have the full tuing kit: Apex'i PowerFC with datalogit and a wideband 02 sensor (never been used) to go with the engine.

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Is this the same new engine you allready used three years ago?

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...ghlight=engine

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Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
Sorry for the lack of responses...

The engine is streetable, it just has a 'loppy' idle unless you set it to 1100rpm or more.

As for a race engine, max power, you couldn't ask for a better 'start' - the engine will make you 600hp easily with the right setup, just assume 15-20% more horsepower than a stock 13B-REW at any boost level. The ceramic apex seals and cryogen parts are just for max reliability, which I spared no expense when having it built by Rob.

I actually just noticed on Pineapple's site that they don't list motor rebuilds any more...did they stop making engines? I thinking I'm starting to get cold feet to sell this thing - right now I don't think I could take any less than $4500+ Sorry.

P.S.

If any serious buyer does want to fork over that kind of cash for their project, I also have the full tuing kit: Apex'i PowerFC with datalogit and a wideband 02 sensor (never been used) to go with the engine.
Of course Pineapple still does engines!

http://www.pineappleracing.com/index...on=Custom&ID=2

You can buy a D series 20B for $4K.
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Originally Posted by GoRacer View Post
Is this the same new engine you allready used three years ago?

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...ghlight=engine
good find, I'm out.
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Old 07-12-07, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
I have a brand new - never been installed - never been fired

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Old 07-13-07, 09:05 AM
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Too funny...
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Old 07-14-07, 10:03 AM
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Jesus, has it been 3 years ago??? Good times back then...that was before the apex seal blew and it was rebuilt the second time. Rob actually honored his warantee even though it was probably my fault.

This engine is brand new; it's never been fired, like I said. I'm sure this is easy to verify by looking at it.

I'll post pics soon for anyone in doubt. Might take a few days though since it's at my mechanic's shop in LA (I'm in San Diego).
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what was replaced when the motor was rebuilt the second time?

you still have the warranty paper work right?
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Old 07-14-07, 11:38 PM
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Nope, don't have any warranty paperwork, don't think I ever did...I think the warranty goes away when it shifts owners anyways. That's what people have been saying at least.
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Originally Posted by PvillKnight7 View Post
what was replaced when the motor was rebuilt the second time?

you still have the warranty paper work right?

Call Rob or Blake and ask them about the motor and why they covered it. Also ask what parts were re-used and if it was a barebones or same quality rebuild as what they normally provide.

I think that will help your sale...or maybe not if everything is not above board. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
I have a brand new - never been installed - never been fired - Pineapple race engine with LSP and 3mm ceramic apex seals. It's a 5-year/60k gauranteed engine with all the goodies (cryogen, porting, oil loop kit, etc.)

I spent $5600 on it, but will part for it for $4000-$4500 if someone can use it.

All work was done by Rob Golden, I kept in close contact with him the entire time the engine was being built.

BEST ROTARY ENGINE YOU CAN BUY IN THE STATES.

Contact me at [email protected] if you want a quick response.

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I'm sure he built you a good motor. But he's known to have ripped off a bunch of people in FL. Motors all popped between 3K-5K miles. All FD's. People paid for porting and didn't get it, or 3mm seals and didn't get them.
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I'm sure he built you a good motor. But he's known to have ripped off a bunch of people in FL. Motors all popped between 3K-5K miles. All FD's. People paid for porting and didn't get it, or 3mm seals and didn't get them.
I'm tired of seeing all the crap being dumped on Pineapple Racing.

This all amounts to hearsay.

Got details? Then have the people that dealt with Pineapple post something in the good guy/bad guy section, otherwise keep it to yourself. Even if there were problems, there's a lot that could have happened. Employees could be not doing all they were supposed to, etc.

I've been a customer of Pineapple for awhile, and have always found Rob to be a stand up guy. If there's a problem, he'll take care of it.
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I'm tired of seeing all the crap being dumped on Pineapple Racing.

This all amounts to hearsay.

Got details? Then have the people that dealt with Pineapple post something in the good guy/bad guy section, otherwise keep it to yourself. Even if there were problems, there's a lot that could have happened. Employees could be not doing all they were supposed to, etc.

I've been a customer of Pineapple for awhile, and have always found Rob to be a stand up guy. If there's a problem, he'll take care of it.
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Old 07-26-07, 09:49 PM
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Rob is the best rotary builder in the states, and he stands by his word. I know that for a fact in my own dealings with him.
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Still not sold yet, If anyone can get me $4k in a week, it's yours. e-mail me at [email protected]

I'm getting my mechanic in LA to take pictures of the engine tomorrow.
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Hey, I'm from the Northwest and I have met and like Rob and Blake at Pineapple and have spent money with them before and was fully satisfied. After having said that, I'm sure that all of us are smart enough to take whatever information comes to us second-hand and decide whether we want to believe it or not. If you hear something that concerns you enough, you should contact the company involved and ask them about the rumors directly. THAT is the proper way to do business. In my opinion both Blake and Rob are pretty articulate guys who are more than capable of defending their products and services. We don't need overly defensive posters (jkstill & islanders) telling everyone that they aren't allowed to pass on information that they know or have heard that is either good OR bad. Good companies are those that are passionate about creating and maintaining an excellent reputation, and emphasize excellent communication with current and prospective customers. When enthusiasts actively trade information about companies that serve our tiny demographic it is a service to both the buyers and the sellers. If the negative opinions on ANY product come from a reputable enough source to worry you, then call that company up. If they are any good at all, they should be happy to talk about any concerns that you might have to build trust with prospective buyers. If they don't - don't buy from them. Quit endorsing censorship, and get off your *** and exercise due diligence before you spend your hard earned money. If you are making buying decisions based solely on good or bad opinions made pretty anonymously on the internet, then you probably deserve to get ripped off a few times so you can learn some valuable lessons about life.
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We don't need overly defensive posters (jkstill & islanders) telling everyone that they aren't allowed to pass on information that they know or have heard that is either good OR bad.
Hearsay is hearsay. In other words, worthless.

Put up or shut up has always been good advice.

"overly defensive"?

That's funny. Maybe you're new here and haven't seen other posts that are derisive of Pineapple Racing.

I stand by what I wrote.
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Of course you do, because you think your arrogant form of ignorance might look like wisdom if you show enough conviction. Perhaps it works that way for children, but for those of us with a bit more maturity things are a bit different. You don't really understand the concept of "hearsay", but you use it as if we were in court where it is mostly inadmissable. That proves that you probably watch a lot of television, but lack the strong educational background that would tend to make your opinion something more than laughable. Out here in "the real world", us adults make business decisions all the time based on a collected anecdotal history called "reputation". We understand that ANY business that is operating in a free market society is going to have customers who have good experiences, bad experiences, and experiences that fall somewhere in between. Those customers will also base their opinions on any number of criteria - some reasonable, and some completely unreasonable. Anyone who wants their business to survive in the market, and hopefully succeed, must make a conscious effort to match their products and services to the needs and expectations of their core customers. Pineapple has done that, and sells to a niche that they feel that they can profitably satisfy. If you were to ask either Rob or Blake, they would tell you that they have made decisions to sell or not sell to certain segments based on a risk/reward scenario based on their experience in the field. As someone who has owned, built, modified, or raced rotarys continuously since the mid-eighties and worked with nearly every shop in the northwest that specializes in them, I think I can safely say that Pineapple is one of the less "flakey" of the bunch. You run down the list of places that describe themselves as "rotary" or even "race" specific shops and you will find a LOT of flakey people. When I find someone that I feel I can trust, I latch onto them because they are few and far between. Since I race, I buy a lot more engines than most people do - but I don't buy so many that I don't want to hear other people's experiences. It is in everyones best interest to find out about any shop that might not be interested in making specific customers happy and why. If five percent of the motors that someone builds fail within the first 10,000 miles then I want to hear about it. If that suddenly goes up to 25% or down to 1%, I want to hear about that too. If you were to spend a bit more time actually talking to Rob, and less time blindly licking his sphincter, you would find that HE wants to know when something fails and why as well. Rob doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would keep building crappy motors if he found that there was something that made them blow up early. Good engine builders collect every tidbit of information that they can about what might make their product better and more reliable, regardless of the source. Are you telling Rob that he shouldn't listen to "heresay"? He would laugh at you too.

The moral of this story? More information is NEVER a bad thing - now THAT is some good advice. I'm relatively happy wth my current engine builder, but I would consider Rob if I was going to change. I have no axe to grind with Pineapple at all. If I did have them build me a motor, I would ask them about the rumor of some unhappy Floridians that I read about on the 'net and I am confidant that they would be happy to dispel any doubts that I had. I know that most builders are constantly caught in a difficult place between price and quality. Jeff Clark, who built my last two race motors, has reached a point where he builds primarily for racers. Racers are generally willing to pay to get a motor built properly with enough new parts to make them reliable. For most rotary street cars, building a motor properly is likely to cost more than the value of the car! As a result, everybody wants a powerful, reliable motor that is put together cheaply out of mostly used parts for their street car. With careful measurements, precise sorting of parts, and skilled assembly this can be achieved but it involves a measure of luck. Good rotary builders all pretty much know how to make a great engine out of new parts. They hate having to try to duplicate that feat with used parts because it is a roll of the dice with their reputation riding on the outcome. Most have simply made the decision to stop taking those risks and turn down a lot of bottom end, low dollar business because of it. I would do the same.
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Jesus, has it been 3 years ago??? Good times back then...that was before the apex seal blew and it was rebuilt the second time.
Regardless of he pineapple debate the OP wasn't upfront about his motor. Personally the quote above sounds like BS and I think the OP is asking too much for the motor. I wouldn't put any faith in the motor. It sounds to me like the OP spent a lot of money on something he knew nothing about and is trying to get it all back. Just my 2 cents
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