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Best Coilovers?

Im looking for some companies that make the best coilover/ or spring strut setup. I am looking for all out race stuff( not this, I want a nice ride but good performance so I can drive around town and show everyone how cool I am stuff). I am looking for full race suspension. I have and am still doing reserch and found that for a all race setup spring/strut combo was better than coilovers. I am not an expert so I am asking for the names or websites of some companies. The suspension is for an FD. Thanks for the help. ( O and Im not rich but cost is mostly no object, I will spend a good amount because this is the most important system on the car)
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Originally Posted by FDWarrior View Post
Im looking for some companies that make the best coilover/ or spring strut setup. I am looking for all out race stuff( not this, I want a nice ride but good performance so I can drive around town and show everyone how cool I am stuff). I am looking for full race suspension. I have and am still doing reserch and found that for a all race setup spring/strut combo was better than coilovers. I am not an expert so I am asking for the names or websites of some companies. The suspension is for an FD. Thanks for the help. ( O and Im not rich but cost is mostly no object, I will spend a good amount because this is the most important system on the car)
Talk to Guy Ankeny at Tripoint Engineering, ask about the Koni 28 series coilovers for the FD.

http://www.tripointengineering.com

You won't find their custom race shocks on the website.

Hope this helps,
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Old 03-02-08, 11:22 PM
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What class do you race in currently?

Read this thread from howard coleman: https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/howard-colemans-fd-chassis-setup-723617/
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 View Post
What class do you race in currently?

Read this thread from howard coleman: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=723617
I race my FD in SM2. I really like autocross but a group around where I live called EMRA hosts endurance races and time trials. Here is there website http://www.emraracing.org/ . I am planning on running in an open class for EMRA.
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there are a few guys here who race SM2 and win nationally. You might want to try searching as they posted their setups and info. One of them posted in the thread I gave you the link to. AMRX7 is his user name.

I ran emra a long time ago.... Good bunch of people.
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Erik(Steldoc) runs Koni 2812 monotube double adjustable racing shocks and Andy(Amrx7) runs Penske double adjustable shocks with external reservoirs, both setup by Guy Ankeny at Tripoint/Proparts.


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What kind of prices would I be looking at for these http://www.penskeshocks.co.uk/cardamper/4way.htm and the 2 ways. The link on Penske's website for the 2 and 3 ways are broken.
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The Penske's and 28 series Koni's will both be between 2.5 to 3.5k

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Originally Posted by Chadwick View Post
The Penske's and 28 series Koni's will both be between 2.5 to 3.5k

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Wow good prices. I was always told that the japanese coilover companies made junk. The only japanese coilover I dont know much about is Racing Gear. If RG's are like anyother of the "high end" coil's they are probably junk too.
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I'm running 3 way adjustable Dynamic shocks and they are great. If they tamed my 62% front weight bias front wheel driver car, they can do wonders for a basically correct FD. It also helps that their North American Headquarters is close by for assistance. My RX runs Koni's and they are fine, but don't give the fine control and adjustability that the 3 ways offer. Just remember though that the more adjustability the more chance for screwing it all up.

I would also look into Motons and Ohlins as they are the shocks of choice for the money is no object people. The through shaft products are the best for strut cars and very good for double control arm cars. The prices may be higher than what you are comfortable with. I have a friend of mine who was running Koni's on his WC Cobra. He is looking into the Ohlins and the expectation is a couple of seconds a lap improvement on a very highly developed car.

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Eric, did you by those of Joe Chan? I remember the Dave Wood 2nd gen was parting with a set.
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I'm running 3 way adjustable Dynamic shocks and they are great. If they tamed my 62% front weight bias front wheel driver car, they can do wonders for a basically correct FD. It also helps that their North American Headquarters is close by for assistance. My RX runs Koni's and they are fine, but don't give the fine control and adjustability that the 3 ways offer. Just remember though that the more adjustability the more chance for screwing it all up.

I would also look into Motons and Ohlins as they are the shocks of choice for the money is no object people. The through shaft products are the best for strut cars and very good for double control arm cars. The prices may be higher than what you are comfortable with. I have a friend of mine who was running Koni's on his WC Cobra. He is looking into the Ohlins and the expectation is a couple of seconds a lap improvement on a very highly developed car.

Eric Nummelin
Are the ohlins and motons like 4.5 to 5 grand?
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Can I get the website for Motons
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Jason, the Dynamics are on the WC Cougar, which explains the 62% front weight bias. The CCTCC RX7 runs Koni's or Bilsteins depending on the setup.
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Link To Dynamic Suspensions

Here is a link to the Dynamic Suspension site. Keep in mind that most sedan dampers are custom made.

http://www.dynamicsuspensions.com/dampers/index.shtml

Take a look, it may help.

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Originally Posted by 23Racer View Post
Here is a link to the Dynamic Suspension site. Keep in mind that most sedan dampers are custom made.

http://www.dynamicsuspensions.com/dampers/index.shtml

Take a look, it may help.

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Craziest suspension on earth right there but you need to have a very handy dynamics engineer to set them up for you.
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ON No Kidding!!!!!!

Just a bit of a story about what shocks can do for a car. The WC Cougar that I just bought had a history of being the world's heaviest lawn dart. It was a bullet in a straight line, but couldn't make it around a corner to save its life. The car, no matter who was driving it, would go like a bullet for about 5 laps and then its front tires would melt off and it would drift slowly back through the pack and end up in about 15th place. The team that originally built it got frustrated and when Ford stopped supporting them, dumped the car and went into sports racers.

A team in Canada bought the car and went a bit better, but still had the same issues. The fastest they went was a 1:35.2 at Mosport. Luckily or unluckily, depends on your opinion, it had Dynamic shocks on it and Dynamic Suspensions North American headquarters is very close by. They helped the team out with advice and tuning and tamed the beast. After the tuning the same car and driver was able to turn 1:31's with ease and in longer runs the car still fell off, but only to the 1:34's.

I have to get the car set up to run on the new Toyo 888's, but with some testing we should be able to get there. If I can get the pig running fast enough again, then I may do a few Speed WC Touring races over the next couple of years.
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Don't forget about JRZ. They are in the same class as Penske, Moton, Ohlin, etc.. A set for the FD runs about $4,500
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Penske just came out with a double and triple adjustable damper for the FD. Pretty much custom made to the order. Very nice setup. It will cost between $4-6k depending on whether you buy the doubles or triples.
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Are the ohlins and motons like 4.5 to 5 grand?
There are FD specific canistered Ohlins available ex-Japan - should be sub 3k at your end....only 2 way. Example....http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s81126330

Having seen professionals running 4+ ways getting totally lost, unless you are running pots and can call on the services of a data acquisition engineer might be best left to others. They seem to run a 46mm piston, so hopefully some commonality with the MX range (and local service your end).

No idea on the class acronyms over there, for circuit racing shim stacks and springs will need to be changed,.... experience here at least.

There are cars over here running the Penskes, which I believe the local agent made up. The front runner uses MCAs - which have a substantial following in the national/international rally scene as well, both quite a bit more expensive though.
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penske racing shocks
www.twinsturbo.com
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thanks for all of the options. Im doing some homework on the companies now.
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I heard there is nothing like best. There is always a better than the best. What a first post.
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