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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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anyone know the specs on the M2 racecar?

I'm talking about the black one with the GTC front end, and knightsports wing. It's the raced out one on their webpage. I saw it once at a HIN show in san mateo, and it was done up really really nicely. Does anyone know what class it runs in and what races it is set up for? Also what kind of turbo, and everything else it uses?
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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They posted a link on here in the last couple months showing it for sale. Looks like they built it then couldn't afford to race it, cause I think it was built for the World Challenge GT Cup. I haven't seen it run in any of the events on Speed Channel (NASCAR TV)
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 02:50 AM
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does anyone have that link? I would like to see it
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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Here it is. M2 Race Car for Sale No specs at all though.

You've got to scan the Canadian forum more often. We spend waay too much time on the internet!

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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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they campaigned the car until the rules made the RX7 less than competitive, money for racing is always a problem. unfortunately mazda has not produced a GT type car in nearly ten years for the US. in the mid nineties the RX7 was a competitive race car in world challenge but without an unrestricted turbo it just does not do well against the z06's, GT3 cup Porsche's and supercharged NSX's, which all have factory support and developement.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by tims
they campaigned the car until the rules made the RX7 less than competitive, money for racing is always a problem. unfortunately mazda has not produced a GT type car in nearly ten years for the US. in the mid nineties the RX7 was a competitive race car in world challenge but without an unrestricted turbo it just does not do well against the z06's, GT3 cup Porsche's and supercharged NSX's, which all have factory support and developement.
The rules specify the Hitachi twins for the Rx-7. But the Supra can run a T04S. The NSX can run a supercharger. Obviously, this leaves the Rx-7 in an uncompetitive position.

I believe that it would be possible to get a more competitive configuration homologated, but I don't know how to go about doing it. I have tried contacting the person listed on scca's website, but received no response.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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that's a beautiful car. Anyone know why they are selling it and why they can't afford to race it anymore?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 08:53 PM
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Heck with the M2 car for $100K, you can buy mine which is almost as nice for $27K...
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=129839
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Shaker PM me if you want the person to contact. I'm an official with World Challenge.
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Brad, your car sounds as if it's really badass. Why don't you post some pics?
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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I'll post a few pics in a row...
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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here's #2
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Here is an engine compartment shot ...
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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nice!
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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I have been up close and personal with the M2 race car and it is indeed fabulous. The attention to detail that went into this car is simply incredible.
A few corrections to the speculation, It is NOT the old car they built for the speedvision challenge. It does have a single turbo, It does NOT have the stock Transmission. The wing is NOT a Knightsports, It is a one-off built by M2, actually i think it is a two-off. It has gobs of carbon fibre and cool electronics. This car must be seen to be believed. This car is a showcase to the talents of M2. Now, where do i get that low interest loan?
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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With all due respect, the M2 is not THAT high tech. it doesn't even use centerlock hubs. The car that Roger Mandeville built for Cam Worth is much better. the $100K price on the M2 car is a 'little' ambitious.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Yes, perhaps 100K is a little salty. It is still a well prepared car that impressed the snot out of me. My area of expertise isnt race cars but aircraft, so i tend to compare the detail to jet aircraft and again,the attention to detail is remarkable.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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I don't think the price is "too" high since the GT3 RS cars cost upwards or 135k (that's the lowest that I've seen anyway). I thought I saw an RX7 in SpeedGT races about 2 weeks ago. I can't remember where they were though. I know the session after it was at Road Atlanta, so whatever was before then there was an RX7 in the race. I believe it finished in 12th place. I didn't get to see it, I missed the major portion of the race but when I saw the last few laps (where's the damn replay already!!!) and the final standings the car was there.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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FOUND IT! The car that participates in the SpeedVision GT series is the "Petit Racing/Mazda/Forgeline/Mazda RX-7" the last race that it was in was the Laguna Seca Round (ha...the Mazda circuit). It finished in 12th place and started in 17th place. I'm not sure how long they've been going at it, but that's the ONLY race that I remember them being in and I watch them ALL. They might be testing the car and need some realworld testing, so no telling when or IF they're coming back next year (the final round is already over).
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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KioyKix,

The car you are referring to is the Cam Worth car I referenced. Cam owns Pettit Racing and has been driving for years. The rules strangle the car as it must run reworked stock twins. In other words, the package is not competitive.

Regrading the cost of GT3R Porsches: another instructor I know just bought one from Kevin Buckler's Race Group. It finished 6th at LeMans last year. the car is beautiful ad is WAY advanced over the M2 car. he paid $125K.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Considering the car is fully built and has all the goodies $100k seems reasonable for a car built like the M2 car (i'm also including the price of labor, tuning, etc...).

BTW, does anyone know what type of single turbo the m2 car has?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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Well, that makes my car an absolute steal at $27k... <g>
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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1FooknTiteFD: I thought you hated M2-- are you really thinking about buying that car? If you're looking for a 3d Gen track car, Brad's looks like a much better buy...
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by 1FooknTiteFD
Considering the car is fully built and has all the goodies $100k seems reasonable for a car built like the M2 car (i'm also including the price of labor, tuning, etc...).

BTW, does anyone know what type of single turbo the m2 car has?
Since it was built for Speedvision GT it has to run OEM twins - But I think they can be upgraded to the 99 spec units and run NonSeq. the rules try to limit the gt cars to >450 HP on a sliding weight/HP scale, ie lighter cars are have more HP restriction.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:12 AM
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1FooknTiteFD: I thought you hated M2-- are you really thinking about buying that car? If you're looking for a 3d Gen track car, Brad's looks like a much better buy...
Haha, I wish I had 100k to spend on a pure race car! I'm not rich you know? Also to clarify, I don't "hate" m2, I just think they make low quality products and have bad service and customer support. I've met brian before and he's a really cool guy.

Since it was built for Speedvision GT it has to run OEM twins - But I think they can be upgraded to the 99 spec units and run NonSeq. the rules try to limit the gt cars to >450 HP on a sliding weight/HP scale, ie lighter cars are have more HP restriction.
Actually at Hot import nights in San Mateo, I saw the car up close when brian opened the hood, and it does indeed have a single turbo. Just don't know what kind it is though
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