I would NEVER DO business with Sonix7
02-13-07, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HDP
Everything you're saying now is a complete contradiction to what you said before. So what is the truth? I can understand Phil playing along and being nice because you had all his parts. Would you've returned all his parts if he had tore into you about the quality of your work and for not delivering when you said you would? HELL NO! Why is this such a shock to you? Anyone in his situation would've done the same.
You may have perfected your skills and gained the respect of a few, but how many did you screw and get-over on to get to where you are? Aren't you the same individual that made an attempt to be a vendor on this forum but backed-out because didn't want to pay to advertise and transact business like every other vendor on this forum even though you did briefly advertised and put yourself out there for everyone see? That alone says a lot about your character. Just because you have managed to do some quality work and gain a few people in your corner doesn't mean you shouldn't own up to your quality issues and past misdeeds,... or present misdeeds for that matter.
You may have perfected your skills and gained the respect of a few, but how many did you screw and get-over on to get to where you are? Aren't you the same individual that made an attempt to be a vendor on this forum but backed-out because didn't want to pay to advertise and transact business like every other vendor on this forum even though you did briefly advertised and put yourself out there for everyone see? That alone says a lot about your character. Just because you have managed to do some quality work and gain a few people in your corner doesn't mean you shouldn't own up to your quality issues and past misdeeds,... or present misdeeds for that matter.
Exactly....im glad i learned about how this guy operates. I was recently asking him about doing some work for me too.
02-13-07, 12:23 PM
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I need some of you to answer this for me..
Jason Evans aka SONIX7 still thinks that he did this for NOTHING!!
So, I'm wondering, IF he did NOT pay me for the:
1. R1 lip he used and sold
2. 99 lip he used and sold
3. $250 RX8 shiftknob that he kept and NEVER paid me
4. Defi Guage that I bought for him that he kept and never paid me
5. $400+ worth of Carbon Fiber that I bought and send it to him and he never paid me
6. $40 dollar I paid paypal'd him and he used to buy resin
7. 10+ hours I've spend tracking down parts for him that he NEVER paid me for
8. $300 dollar sponsorship at DGRR 2006 that he NEVER paid me for
9. 1 x DGRR 2005 T-shirt he never paid me
10. 1or 2 x DGRR 2006 T-shirt he NEVER paid me
11. 5-8 hours doing his graphics for that I NEVER got PAID!
12. 20-40 hours I spend emailing and such trying to get my parts back.. That time, JUST GONE!
13. 1-2 hours I spend writing how to remove door panels protocols
And not to forget...
Now the parts that he converted and ruined!
1. Door panels
2. ac panel
3. center consol
4. rear hatch cover
5. misc rear hatch parts
6. Feed side mirror
7. headlight surround
8. guage cluster surround and hood..
Hmm..
SO, Do you guys think I have not compensate for 10 or so pieces I got back from him???
Again, SONIX7.. .aka Jason Evans... Look at the list and tell me IF I recieved those parts for FREE!!! If so, I need you to pay me for all the parts you used, messed up, parts I got for you, material I got for you, and time I spend compensated by $$$$... otherwise, your claim about me getting these parts for FREE is utterly FALSE!! So, who's slandering who again???
Jason Evans aka SONIX7 still thinks that he did this for NOTHING!!
So, I'm wondering, IF he did NOT pay me for the:
1. R1 lip he used and sold
2. 99 lip he used and sold
3. $250 RX8 shiftknob that he kept and NEVER paid me
4. Defi Guage that I bought for him that he kept and never paid me
5. $400+ worth of Carbon Fiber that I bought and send it to him and he never paid me
6. $40 dollar I paid paypal'd him and he used to buy resin
7. 10+ hours I've spend tracking down parts for him that he NEVER paid me for
8. $300 dollar sponsorship at DGRR 2006 that he NEVER paid me for
9. 1 x DGRR 2005 T-shirt he never paid me
10. 1or 2 x DGRR 2006 T-shirt he NEVER paid me
11. 5-8 hours doing his graphics for that I NEVER got PAID!
12. 20-40 hours I spend emailing and such trying to get my parts back.. That time, JUST GONE!
13. 1-2 hours I spend writing how to remove door panels protocols
And not to forget...
Now the parts that he converted and ruined!
1. Door panels
2. ac panel
3. center consol
4. rear hatch cover
5. misc rear hatch parts
6. Feed side mirror
7. headlight surround
8. guage cluster surround and hood..
Hmm..
SO, Do you guys think I have not compensate for 10 or so pieces I got back from him???
Again, SONIX7.. .aka Jason Evans... Look at the list and tell me IF I recieved those parts for FREE!!! If so, I need you to pay me for all the parts you used, messed up, parts I got for you, material I got for you, and time I spend compensated by $$$$... otherwise, your claim about me getting these parts for FREE is utterly FALSE!! So, who's slandering who again???
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02-13-07, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by herblenny
I need some of you to answer this for me..
Jason Evans aka SONIX7 still thinks that he did this for NOTHING!!
So, I'm wondering, IF he did NOT pay me for the:
1. R1 lip he used and sold
2. 99 lip he used and sold
3. $250 RX8 shiftknob that he kept and NEVER paid me
4. Defi Guage that I bought for him that he kept and never paid me
5. $400+ worth of Carbon Fiber that I bought and send it to him and he never paid me
6. $40 dollar I paid paypal'd him and he used to buy resin
7. 10+ hours I've spend tracking down parts for him that he NEVER paid me for
8. $300 dollar sponsorship at DGRR 2006 that he NEVER paid me for
9. 1 x DGRR 2005 T-shirt he never paid me
10. 1or 2 x DGRR 2006 T-shirt he NEVER paid me
11. 5-8 hours doing his graphics for that I NEVER got PAID!
12. 20-40 hours I spend emailing and such trying to get my parts back.. That time, JUST GONE!
13. 1-2 hours I spend writing how to remove door panels protocols
And not to forget...
Now the parts that he converted and ruined!
1. Door panels
2. ac panel
3. center consol
4. rear hatch cover
5. misc rear hatch parts
6. Feed side mirror
7. headlight surround
8. guage cluster surround and hood..
Hmm..
SO, Do you guys think I have not compensate for 10 or so pieces I got back from him???
Again, SONIX7.. .aka Jason Evans... Look at the list and tell me IF I recieved those parts for FREE!!! If so, I need you to pay me for all the parts you used, messed up, parts I got for you, material I got for you, and time I spend compensated by $$$$... otherwise, your claim about me getting these parts for FREE is utterly FALSE!! So, who's slandering who again???
Jason Evans aka SONIX7 still thinks that he did this for NOTHING!!
So, I'm wondering, IF he did NOT pay me for the:
1. R1 lip he used and sold
2. 99 lip he used and sold
3. $250 RX8 shiftknob that he kept and NEVER paid me
4. Defi Guage that I bought for him that he kept and never paid me
5. $400+ worth of Carbon Fiber that I bought and send it to him and he never paid me
6. $40 dollar I paid paypal'd him and he used to buy resin
7. 10+ hours I've spend tracking down parts for him that he NEVER paid me for
8. $300 dollar sponsorship at DGRR 2006 that he NEVER paid me for
9. 1 x DGRR 2005 T-shirt he never paid me
10. 1or 2 x DGRR 2006 T-shirt he NEVER paid me
11. 5-8 hours doing his graphics for that I NEVER got PAID!
12. 20-40 hours I spend emailing and such trying to get my parts back.. That time, JUST GONE!
13. 1-2 hours I spend writing how to remove door panels protocols
And not to forget...
Now the parts that he converted and ruined!
1. Door panels
2. ac panel
3. center consol
4. rear hatch cover
5. misc rear hatch parts
6. Feed side mirror
7. headlight surround
8. guage cluster surround and hood..
Hmm..
SO, Do you guys think I have not compensate for 10 or so pieces I got back from him???
Again, SONIX7.. .aka Jason Evans... Look at the list and tell me IF I recieved those parts for FREE!!! If so, I need you to pay me for all the parts you used, messed up, parts I got for you, material I got for you, and time I spend compensated by $$$$... otherwise, your claim about me getting these parts for FREE is utterly FALSE!! So, who's slandering who again???
When you can point out simplistic lists, recall emails/pms/posts that indefinitely show who is lying and who is not, and who is trying to pull some scammy **** and who is not. It is pretty damn obvious who is right and wrong. Use some common ******* sense here!!! And when people post "i've had great relations/dealings with Jason," that is not the F'ng point! It is the strict fact that Phil got screwed, and he is telling his story! Maybe 1 or even ten of you people that got done right by Jason are happy; well Phil is not. And rightfully so! No one esle should be either in this situation. He has shown way more evidence than needed. It is so damn obvious, it would be better for someone to just slap the **** out of anyone that says otherwise, than to sit here and keep arguing. I am with Phil on this one! That is BS! I would be enraged!!!
Phil you don't need any of us to tell you that you're right. You know what the truth is! And when you ask if you shouldn't be pissed, **** YA you should be!!!. If you didn't get mad, I would be worried. You got screwed. Plain and simple!
02-13-07, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by travs92vr4
When you can point out simplistic lists, recall emails/pms/posts that indefinitely show who is lying and who is not, and who is trying to pull some scammy **** and who is not. It is pretty damn obvious who is right and wrong. Use some common ******* sense here!!! And when people post "i've had great relations/dealings with Jason," that is not the F'ng point! It is the strict fact that Phil got screwed, and he is telling his story! Maybe 1 or even ten of you people that got done right by Jason are happy; well Phil is not. And rightfully so! No one esle should be either in this situation. He has shown way more evidence than needed. It is so damn obvious, it would be better for someone to just slap the **** out of anyone that says otherwise, than to sit here and keep arguing. I am with Phil on this one! That is BS! I would be enraged!!!
Phil you don't need any of us to tell you that you're right. You know what the truth is! And when you ask if you shouldn't be pissed, **** YA you should be!!!. If you didn't get mad, I would be worried. You got screwed. Plain and simple!
Phil you don't need any of us to tell you that you're right. You know what the truth is! And when you ask if you shouldn't be pissed, **** YA you should be!!!. If you didn't get mad, I would be worried. You got screwed. Plain and simple!
Exactly.....theres so friggen many wannabe JudgeJudys on here trying to pad their post count these days and try and make themselves seem important. Its seems alot of people on here lately are willing to support known scammers just because they saved a buck and got lucky their transaction went smooth. Well....Phils didnt. Stop ******* questioning him. He's a nice guy thats getting seriously screwed over on here. I hope he brings the parts that sonix7 made to DGRR 2007 and show what this **** looks like. Im a friend of Phil's...and will support him in anyway possible.
02-13-07, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7goomba
Exactly.....theres so friggen many wannabe JudgeJudys on here trying to pad their post count these days and try and make themselves seem important. Its seems alot of people on here lately are willing to support known scammers just because they saved a buck and got lucky their transaction went smooth. Well....Phils didnt. Stop ******* questioning him. He's a nice guy thats getting seriously screwed over on here. I hope he brings the parts that sonix7 made to DGRR 2007 and show what this **** looks like. Im a friend of Phil's...and will support him in anyway possible.
Originally Posted by travs92vr4
When you can point out simplistic lists, recall emails/pms/posts that indefinitely show who is lying and who is not, and who is trying to pull some scammy **** and who is not. It is pretty damn obvious who is right and wrong. Use some common ******* sense here!!! And when people post "i've had great relations/dealings with Jason," that is not the F'ng point! It is the strict fact that Phil got screwed, and he is telling his story! Maybe 1 or even ten of you people that got done right by Jason are happy; well Phil is not. And rightfully so! No one esle should be either in this situation. He has shown way more evidence than needed. It is so damn obvious, it would be better for someone to just slap the **** out of anyone that says otherwise, than to sit here and keep arguing. I am with Phil on this one! That is BS! I would be enraged!!!
Phil you don't need any of us to tell you that you're right. You know what the truth is! And when you ask if you shouldn't be pissed, **** YA you should be!!!. If you didn't get mad, I would be worried. You got screwed. Plain and simple!
Phil you don't need any of us to tell you that you're right. You know what the truth is! And when you ask if you shouldn't be pissed, **** YA you should be!!!. If you didn't get mad, I would be worried. You got screwed. Plain and simple!
To add,
One of Jason's customer is trying to mediate between me and Jason to settle.
Jason still insist that he did my parts for FREE..
If he still thinks that he did me a favor and did these parts for free.. then I ask him to pay me for all the **** I gave him. Then he has the right to say he did my shitty conversions for FREE!
02-13-07, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by herblenny
Travis, Again, I greatly appreciate your support and also understanding my situation..
To add,
One of Jason's customer is trying to mediate between me and Jason to settle.
Jason still insist that he did my parts for FREE..
If he still thinks that he did me a favor and did these parts for free.. then I ask him to pay me for all the **** I gave him. Then he has the right to say he did my shitty conversions for FREE!
To add,
One of Jason's customer is trying to mediate between me and Jason to settle.
Jason still insist that he did my parts for FREE..
If he still thinks that he did me a favor and did these parts for free.. then I ask him to pay me for all the **** I gave him. Then he has the right to say he did my shitty conversions for FREE!
His mediating friend needs to open up his eyes and take a long hard look at the emails/pms/posts that show both sides, and stop sucking on his friends lies
GD I hate stupid people
02-13-07, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by travs92vr4
There is nothing to settle with him on. The only thing he can settle with you on, is giving you good condition used/new parts in exchange for the ones he f'ckd up!!! That is all. You don't owe him ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! END OF STORY!
His mediating friend needs to open up his eyes and take a long hard look at the emails/pms/posts that show both sides, and stop sucking on his friends lies
GD I hate stupid people
His mediating friend needs to open up his eyes and take a long hard look at the emails/pms/posts that show both sides, and stop sucking on his friends lies
GD I hate stupid people
I wouldn't even take good condition used or new parts.. Unless he's willing to return all the stuff I gave him for FREE.. ie, R1 lip, 99 lip, 10 yards of CF, $250 RX8 illuminated shiftknob, Defi Gauge, etc... He kind of forgot that those parts are given by me and he nevered paid for.. He think just replace shitty converted parts with what i originally gave him will end this?? LOL!
02-13-07, 07:42 PM
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wow!!! Phil, I am shocked that this is going on between you two... I spoke to you about him doing your parts for you along time ago... I remember you suggested I contact him for some overlays on parts I was looking for... glad I went another route!!! This is why I find it really hard to trust people...I am the kind of person to find good in everyone and I want to trust everyone , but it is just not smart these days...not that you need my support but I back you 100%... I would not stand for this at all, those peices are not good quality... if he backed his work at all, he would have no problem fixing this...he would not run and hide like a dog with his tail between his legs... happy customers are a must in doing good business, becuase the word of mouth travels fast and far...you are doing the right thing Phil... no one on here would want this to happen to them... if he can't back his work and want to have happy customers I can not say that he would be one to do good business with.... if he feels so strongly that his peices are of great quality and is upset at this thread why hasn't he offered to buy back the pieces from you, then he can sell them... a real person of business would offer a refund, if funds were exchanged or replacement parts of equal value... and return all of the other parts you sent him to do the work...loss on both sides would be none except for the time factor...you would have cash to replace the parts and he would sell his newly overlayed parts...good luck to you Phil, and thanks for the heads up on another spineless business man
02-13-07, 09:04 PM
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This is a pretty shitty situation indeed. At the bare minimum, HE OWES YOU SOME BLACK DOOR PANELS. I hope it works out Phil......lots of shady *** people on this forum the last year or so, it's getting ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
This is a pretty shitty situation indeed. At the bare minimum, HE OWES YOU SOME BLACK DOOR PANELS. I hope it works out Phil......lots of shady *** people on this forum the last year or so, it's getting ridiculous.
I know what you mean, I'm scared to buy anything from anyone, especially if it is a substantial amount of money involved.
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Originally Posted by herblenny
Travis,
I wouldn't even take good condition used or new parts.. Unless he's willing to return all the stuff I gave him for FREE.. ie, R1 lip, 99 lip, 10 yards of CF, $250 RX8 illuminated shiftknob, Defi Gauge, etc... He kind of forgot that those parts are given by me and he nevered paid for.. He think just replace shitty converted parts with what i originally gave him will end this?? LOL!
I wouldn't even take good condition used or new parts.. Unless he's willing to return all the stuff I gave him for FREE.. ie, R1 lip, 99 lip, 10 yards of CF, $250 RX8 illuminated shiftknob, Defi Gauge, etc... He kind of forgot that those parts are given by me and he nevered paid for.. He think just replace shitty converted parts with what i originally gave him will end this?? LOL!
02-14-07, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spandy
I know what you mean, I'm scared to buy anything from anyone, especially if it is a substantial amount of money involved.
Anyhow, I know Jason is a stickler for facts so, I'll post some stuff he posted on the forum.. and emails I've recieved past couple of days (2 days).. and took of those annoying italics and bold fonts he use.. UGH!
Originally Posted by sonix7 via email yesterday
I made a big mistake with Phil and that was offering to anything for free. When he got the free parts, he changed.
Originally Posted by jason evans via email yesterday
I made a mistake in ever offering any free parts to anyone. I wanted to help and I got myself way in over my head.
Originally Posted by sonix7
This guy never paid me any of that aledged $1000.00 at all. Matter of fact he gave me a shift ****, a defi gauge, and a roll of cloth and $40 dollars. That is no where near what it cost for a complete car being "overlayed". I charge $500.00 for one door panel. Period. It takes almost two yards of cloth for that big of a project. What it comes down to is Phil is mad because he didn't get someone to do what he wanted. He is the only person I have ever had a problem with. He is impossible to satisfy, I spent hundreds of hours doing his parts. He was never going to be happy. I told him that if he was not willing to pay for these parts then we were going to have a problem, I finally washed my hands of it.
This guy never paid me any of that aledged $1000.00 at all. Matter of fact he gave me a shift ****, a defi gauge, and a roll of cloth and $40 dollars. That is no where near what it cost for a complete car being "overlayed". I charge $500.00 for one door panel. Period. It takes almost two yards of cloth for that big of a project. What it comes down to is Phil is mad because he didn't get someone to do what he wanted. He is the only person I have ever had a problem with. He is impossible to satisfy, I spent hundreds of hours doing his parts. He was never going to be happy. I told him that if he was not willing to pay for these parts then we were going to have a problem, I finally washed my hands of it.
Originally Posted by sonix7
He never paid any money? Where are the receipts? Actually its not obvious. I never did what Phils claims. If he wanted to get this fixed he should have contacted me, before he has decided to ruin me I would have made right what was my fault if that was the case. Phil chose not to do anything but defame me and make false claims. Its your word against mine. Show me proof that I did what you said and I will fix it. HE GOT THIS FOR NOTHING? Stop telling false statements and move on like you said.
Originally Posted by sonix7
Unless you pay me for the work and hours I spend nose to the grind, then its not yours. Others have no problem paying $500 for the work, which is a good deal for what that is. I returned the original drivers side panel that was sent to me. Since there was a problem with the pass side door panel, no way was I going to send it like that under the circumstances. I replaced it with a black door panel I bought off of someone. It was black, it was in like new and better condition than the original and I cleaned them up with a real nice vinyl cleaner and they looked new......
I have so many more people that have had awesome experiences with me than this one guy that got everything for free! Bottomline is you have several parts that are worth a lot to me, I have nothing but a shiftknob and gauge and you trying to bury me? BTW where is the receipts that show you paid any money to me. I would love to see them. I would advise you to handle this in a different manner or suffer the consequences. Have a nice day.
I have so many more people that have had awesome experiences with me than this one guy that got everything for free! Bottomline is you have several parts that are worth a lot to me, I have nothing but a shiftknob and gauge and you trying to bury me? BTW where is the receipts that show you paid any money to me. I would love to see them. I would advise you to handle this in a different manner or suffer the consequences. Have a nice day.
Originally Posted by sonix7
That was until Phil was not pleased with any thing I did and basically degraded me. I was ready to wash my hands right there. He called and made me believe that he was going to do good. I sent him the first batch of parts and he complains and wants me to do them over. So I do. Then he sends pieces that I wasted a ton of time and material on for nothing. He sent me a RHD cowl and I got almost finished and figured out it didn't fit. Money down the drain. When the finance got to high for me to do Phil's parts for free anymore, I was very honest and asked him to help and that I no longer had any money for his project. He pressured me to get them done and offered no help, I tried to finish up and call it a loss. I never mix and match parts and don't ever use someone elses parts unless they give me permission (like Phil). I treated Phils parts like everyone elses. Any fish eye and imperfection can easily be wet sanded and polished out with minimal effort.
So, I'm wondering again, if I provided these parts and he nevered paid me, if he still did all these shitty things for.. "FREE" or for "NOTHING"..
IF he did NOT pay me for the:
1. R1 lip he used and sold (approx cost $85)
2. 99 lip he used and sold (approx cost $125)
3. $250 RX8 shiftknob that he kept and NEVER paid me
4. Defi Guage that I bought for him that he kept and never paid me (approx. cost $130)
5. $400+ worth of Carbon Fiber that I bought and send it to him and he never paid me
6. $40 dollar I paid paypal'd him and he used to buy resin
7. 10+ hours I've spend tracking down parts for him that he NEVER paid me for
8. $300 dollar sponsorship at DGRR 2006 that he NEVER paid me for
9. 1 x DGRR 2005 T-shirt he never paid me ($15)
10. 1or 2 x DGRR 2006 T-shirt he NEVER paid me ($15)
11. 5-8 hours doing his graphics for that I NEVER got PAID!
12. 20-40 hours I spend emailing and such trying to get my parts back.. That time, JUST GONE!
13. 1-2 hours I spend writing how to remove door panels protocols
14. 3-4 yards of vinyl CF ($50+)
And not to forget...
Now the parts that he converted and ruined!
1. Door panels - which he sent were tan painted blk
2. ac panel - gauge holes are suppose to be 52mm and its like 60+mm
3. center consol - excessive resin and bad clear with fisheyes
4. rear hatch strut covers - just doesn't go on!
5. misc rear hatch parts - deformed and doesn't go on
6. Feed side mirror - excessive resin and he just primed over it Now I have to hire someone or I have to sand it all down and reprime and get it painted
7. headlight surround - excessive resin and fitment is bad
8. guage cluster surround and hood.. - Doesn't mate correctly and excessive resin.. and fish eyes in the clear and dull spots.
Hmm..
SO, Do you guys think I took advantage of Jason? as he stated, I recieved "FREE" service or got "NOTHING" for the parts.
02-14-07, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
This is a pretty shitty situation indeed. At the bare minimum, HE OWES YOU SOME BLACK DOOR PANELS. I hope it works out Phil......lots of shady *** people on this forum the last year or so, it's getting ridiculous.
As sad as it is...the front lips PHIL gave him, are probably a loss to PHIL...the carbon fiber as well. The shift **** and gauge...payment for the effort?!? which really sucks...
It is absolutely insane to think PHIL might lose all the parts he gave him AND all the parts he wanted wrapped and materials. That isn't necessary...any REAL business (any real) MAN would replace what he broke.
IMO every part he touch is now broke.
02-14-07, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dubulup
I'd say a bare minimum would be real black door panels...a cluster that fits, stock AC, stock center console, stock truck pieces that he f*cked, stock door handles, etc...and quite possibly FEED mirrors that don't have resin all over them.
As sad as it is...the front lips PHIL gave him, are probably a loss to PHIL...the carbon fiber as well. The shift **** and gauge...payment for the effort?!? which really sucks...
It is absolutely insane to think PHIL might lose all the parts he gave him AND all the parts he wanted wrapped and materials. That isn't necessary...any REAL business (any real) MAN would replace what he broke.
IMO every part he touch is now broke.
As sad as it is...the front lips PHIL gave him, are probably a loss to PHIL...the carbon fiber as well. The shift **** and gauge...payment for the effort?!? which really sucks...
It is absolutely insane to think PHIL might lose all the parts he gave him AND all the parts he wanted wrapped and materials. That isn't necessary...any REAL business (any real) MAN would replace what he broke.
IMO every part he touch is now broke.
Any real business is there for the customer. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and take a loss to keep the customer happy and keep a good reputation. Because without customers you don't have a business.
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This is my problem w/ the situation.
1) Phil's parts effectively supplied a large starting base for sonix7's carbon fiber "business".
2) Sonix7 promised "free" services/parts.
But the parts he finally sent back to Phil were sub-standard quality. (He readily admits to "fish eye", waves in the composite, etc.)
Basically, parts that Sonix7 would not consider selling as a final product.
Just because you promise a "free" product, doesn't mean that Phil has to accept a product of lesser quality as compared to the products sold to Sonix7's other customers.
I have yet to hear from Sonix7's customers that they too received a final product w/ waves in the composite and fish eyes. Seems to me that Phil is the only one.
Phil deserves genuine black door panels. Not painted black door panels.
He also deserves a lot of stock parts back (a/c, center console, etc.) as the end product isn't satisfactory. The holes are off. Period. It was a sloppy job.
The front lips. My problem w/ that, is he decided to overlay. With the lips design, I don't see why he didn't go w/ making a complete carbon fiber lip, as opposed to an overlay. Perhaps his mold making skills are not up to par?
I think Sonix7 took on way too much. He promised a lot, but delivered far less as he was overwhelmed (at the learning curve, his skillset, the final product, and the costs involved) and didn't see what he was getting into.
This may or may not be the case. BUT, Phil supplied parts for Sonix7 to establish his business. Sonix7 may have been inexperienced, but he failed to deliver. And in my opinion, this is what happens when you run a business. If you fail to deliver, you must return to the customer, an end product that is satisfactory to what was promised.
1) Phil's parts effectively supplied a large starting base for sonix7's carbon fiber "business".
2) Sonix7 promised "free" services/parts.
But the parts he finally sent back to Phil were sub-standard quality. (He readily admits to "fish eye", waves in the composite, etc.)
Basically, parts that Sonix7 would not consider selling as a final product.
Just because you promise a "free" product, doesn't mean that Phil has to accept a product of lesser quality as compared to the products sold to Sonix7's other customers.
I have yet to hear from Sonix7's customers that they too received a final product w/ waves in the composite and fish eyes. Seems to me that Phil is the only one.
Phil deserves genuine black door panels. Not painted black door panels.
He also deserves a lot of stock parts back (a/c, center console, etc.) as the end product isn't satisfactory. The holes are off. Period. It was a sloppy job.
The front lips. My problem w/ that, is he decided to overlay. With the lips design, I don't see why he didn't go w/ making a complete carbon fiber lip, as opposed to an overlay. Perhaps his mold making skills are not up to par?
I think Sonix7 took on way too much. He promised a lot, but delivered far less as he was overwhelmed (at the learning curve, his skillset, the final product, and the costs involved) and didn't see what he was getting into.
This may or may not be the case. BUT, Phil supplied parts for Sonix7 to establish his business. Sonix7 may have been inexperienced, but he failed to deliver. And in my opinion, this is what happens when you run a business. If you fail to deliver, you must return to the customer, an end product that is satisfactory to what was promised.
02-14-07, 08:59 AM
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Let's not forget, Sonix7 did have enough capital to make UIM covers in red and blue kevlar composite and various other products.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=596477
http://usera.imagecave.com/sonix7/Picture273.jpg
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=579199
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=615604
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=516402 (Carbon Fiber 93 spec front lip spoiler"
"...I also reinforce these lips with kevlar so they are aproximately 200% stronger than stock lips come." (Where is he coming up w/ the 200% stronger figure?)
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=596477
http://usera.imagecave.com/sonix7/Picture273.jpg
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=579199
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=615604
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=516402 (Carbon Fiber 93 spec front lip spoiler"
"...I also reinforce these lips with kevlar so they are aproximately 200% stronger than stock lips come." (Where is he coming up w/ the 200% stronger figure?)
02-14-07, 09:11 AM
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To make this right, Jason should give everything back to Phil. Everything, includes: all overlay materials, all the panels that were overlay, the door panels in black, and all the parts that Phil gave for his services. All parts must be in good condition, no cracks, no scratches, no paint overs please! This will be for the exchange of Jason's overlay panels.
That should make it all better. Would that be fair, absolutely so! Because now Jason does not have to practice on anyone's parts and make the mistakes he did with Phil panel, the panels Phil can not even use. Basically, now Jason would be just be out on his TIME. The TIME he would have wastes using to practice on the panels anyway. Phil would have to out on his TIME too, for the past 1.25 years.
That should make it all better. Would that be fair, absolutely so! Because now Jason does not have to practice on anyone's parts and make the mistakes he did with Phil panel, the panels Phil can not even use. Basically, now Jason would be just be out on his TIME. The TIME he would have wastes using to practice on the panels anyway. Phil would have to out on his TIME too, for the past 1.25 years.
02-14-07, 09:15 AM
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OR like DomFD3s says,
Basically overlay everything you sent to Phil that was unusable and make it right.
Originally Posted by DomFD3S
If you fail to deliver, you must return to the customer, an end product that is satisfactory to what was promised.
Basically overlay everything you sent to Phil that was unusable and make it right.
02-14-07, 09:45 AM
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Thanks guys for coming on here and supporting me! I greatly appreciate that and glad to see some of you think I'm right on this.. and espeically for DOM for cleaning up my other thread and understanding my issues! IF you come to DGRR, I'm buying you a BIG DRINK!! just don't drive afterwards
I have to agree with LEO (AbadR1). Only way I would be somewhat satisfied with Jason's future action will be, him offering to replace all the parts and giving back all the stuff I've given him (shiftknob, Defi gauge, the R1 and 99 lips, 10 yards of CF, shirts, etc etc).
He still to this point think that he did all these for "FREE" and infact he hasn't given me a dime on all the parts I have given him. As stated from the beginning, I have given those parts as I did not want to take advantage of "FREE" service and offered to give those things. I feel that i have met my part of our deal but he hasn't even fullfill part of what he promised me.. And now, Not even close! as some of the parts are useless!
Also, there is NO way I would send these parts back to jason as:
1. It might take another year until I get them back and I don't have time to kill
2. I might never see it because I can not trust Jason.. and I'm sure others feel the same
3. I rather get everything back and do it myself.... If I had 10 yards of CF, I have enough experience and help locally to pull this off, its not rocket science!
4. or Hire more respectable person to do it... Like CarbonMan or other overlayers in the country.
But if someone is begging me to give them $50 and they are making excuses after excuses so I would give them, then he's NOT going to replace any of my parts and parts Ive given him.. Because that would cost him almost $2000. LOL!
I guess we just have to see if I'm right or not...
Originally Posted by AbadR1
To make this right, Jason should give everything back to Phil. Everything, includes: all overlay materials, all the panels that were overlay, the door panels in black, and all the parts that Phil gave for his services. All parts must be in good condition, no cracks, no scratches, no paint overs please! This will be for the exchange of Jason's overlay panels.
That should make it all better. Would that be fair, absolutely so! Because now Jason does not have to practice on anyone's parts and make the mistakes he did with Phil panel, the panels Phil can not even use. Basically, now Jason would be just be out on his TIME. The TIME he would have wastes using to practice on the panels anyway. Phil would have to out on his TIME too, for the past 1.25 years.
That should make it all better. Would that be fair, absolutely so! Because now Jason does not have to practice on anyone's parts and make the mistakes he did with Phil panel, the panels Phil can not even use. Basically, now Jason would be just be out on his TIME. The TIME he would have wastes using to practice on the panels anyway. Phil would have to out on his TIME too, for the past 1.25 years.
He still to this point think that he did all these for "FREE" and infact he hasn't given me a dime on all the parts I have given him. As stated from the beginning, I have given those parts as I did not want to take advantage of "FREE" service and offered to give those things. I feel that i have met my part of our deal but he hasn't even fullfill part of what he promised me.. And now, Not even close! as some of the parts are useless!
Also, there is NO way I would send these parts back to jason as:
1. It might take another year until I get them back and I don't have time to kill
2. I might never see it because I can not trust Jason.. and I'm sure others feel the same
3. I rather get everything back and do it myself.... If I had 10 yards of CF, I have enough experience and help locally to pull this off, its not rocket science!
4. or Hire more respectable person to do it... Like CarbonMan or other overlayers in the country.
But if someone is begging me to give them $50 and they are making excuses after excuses so I would give them, then he's NOT going to replace any of my parts and parts Ive given him.. Because that would cost him almost $2000. LOL!
I guess we just have to see if I'm right or not...
02-14-07, 09:50 AM
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I should add one more thing..
I got him the Feed cover for him to make the mold out of... He promised Agentspeed that he will deliver his and extra one for FREE after he got his mold made. And so that Agentspeed could get compensated for lending him the original piece. Jason couldn't deliver it on time and guess what, I personally compensated Agentspeed because I was involved.
And I have proof! just in case Jason comes on here and says I'm "lying".. LOL!
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=516402
By the way, the R1 and 99 spec lips he was doing were mine..
I got him the Feed cover for him to make the mold out of... He promised Agentspeed that he will deliver his and extra one for FREE after he got his mold made. And so that Agentspeed could get compensated for lending him the original piece. Jason couldn't deliver it on time and guess what, I personally compensated Agentspeed because I was involved.
And I have proof! just in case Jason comes on here and says I'm "lying".. LOL!
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=516402
By the way, the R1 and 99 spec lips he was doing were mine..
02-14-07, 11:18 AM
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I would seriously hope nobody would deal with that loser Sonix7...
I posted a while back on here some pics of carbon fiber work i had done by another member, and this punk bitch "Sonix7" starts spamming the thread with his gay comments and ****....now i know why... He doesn't want any competition...he would hate to lose someone he could potentialy rip off.
that guy is worthless...im gonna search and post a link to that thread so people can see how he acts when someone else starts wrapping interior pieces...
CHECK THIS THREAD OUT..
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...3&page=3&pp=15
Start looking @ post 38... he didn't even do CF work 1.5 yrs ago, and now he thinks he's the best...ROFL!
anyone thinking of do business with this "sonix7" after reading this thread and that one, should have a psychological evaluation asap.
I posted a while back on here some pics of carbon fiber work i had done by another member, and this punk bitch "Sonix7" starts spamming the thread with his gay comments and ****....now i know why... He doesn't want any competition...he would hate to lose someone he could potentialy rip off.
that guy is worthless...im gonna search and post a link to that thread so people can see how he acts when someone else starts wrapping interior pieces...
CHECK THIS THREAD OUT..
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...3&page=3&pp=15
Start looking @ post 38... he didn't even do CF work 1.5 yrs ago, and now he thinks he's the best...ROFL!
anyone thinking of do business with this "sonix7" after reading this thread and that one, should have a psychological evaluation asap.
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02-14-07, 11:33 AM
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Here's the thread, quite a lot of drama.....bitch this, muthaphucka that 
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=carbon
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=carbon
02-14-07, 11:39 AM
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i can't believe people have actually bought from that guy....just look how he acts when someone wants to buy from someone besides him or who he suggests....he goes crazy knowing money could be spent with more qualified people than him