Feedback on Drama
01-19-07, 09:55 AM
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Feedback on Drama
Do not do business with Drama. Email/PayPal ID is dlshearer@hotmail.com.
I purchased (4) AFMs from Drama for $20/each. I sent him a payment of $80 via PayPal. Drama eventually shipped only 1 of the 4 AFMs, and promised a $60 refund for the others. 2 months later, and guess what, no refund. Just many broken promises and plenty of excuses.
Be warned: Do not do business with Drama. He stole $60 from me, but maybe he'll get more from you.
I purchased (4) AFMs from Drama for $20/each. I sent him a payment of $80 via PayPal. Drama eventually shipped only 1 of the 4 AFMs, and promised a $60 refund for the others. 2 months later, and guess what, no refund. Just many broken promises and plenty of excuses.
Be warned: Do not do business with Drama. He stole $60 from me, but maybe he'll get more from you.
01-25-07, 08:04 PM
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Why is it that you guys never learn? Why do you allow **** to go on for months? You get a date from the seller as to when they will ship and how. Then you get a tracking number. If the stuff does not show up in a week tops from the time it has been shipped then you do some digging. If there is no evidence of shipping then you nail the person to the wall. Request a refund and do business with someone that has morals!
I sorry to be so harsh but you guys that accept excuses and wait forever are just asking to be scammed.
I sorry to be so harsh but you guys that accept excuses and wait forever are just asking to be scammed.
01-26-07, 07:32 PM
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That's really one of the dumbest posts I've seen on a public fourm. I didn't accept excuses, nor was I looking to be scammed. Frankly, I was powerless in the situation. How exactly do you "nail a person to the wall"? All you can do is request a refund. All the seller (aka thief) has to do is say no! Or even say yes (like Drama did) and never deliver on their promise (again, like Drama did).
The fact that you'd find fault with the victim of a scam, and not the scammer, says much about you. I'd like to add a second
just for you. That way you and Drama don't have to share.
The fact that you'd find fault with the victim of a scam, and not the scammer, says much about you. I'd like to add a second
just for you. That way you and Drama don't have to share.
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01-26-07, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MiataTurbo
That's really one of the dumbest posts I've seen on a public fourm. I didn't accept excuses, nor was I looking to be scammed. Frankly, I was powerless in the situation. How exactly do you "nail a person to the wall"? All you can do is request a refund. All the seller (aka thief) has to do is say no! Or even say yes (like Drama did) and never deliver on their promise (again, like Drama did).
The fact that you'd find fault with the victim of a scam, and not the scammer, says much about you. I'd like to add a second just for you. That way you and Drama don't have to share.
The fact that you'd find fault with the victim of a scam, and not the scammer, says much about you. I'd like to add a second
just for you. That way you and Drama don't have to share.You did not cover your *** by doing the simple little things. So let me refresh them for you.
1). Ask when the product will go out
2). Ask for a tracking # on that day the person states the product will go out
Those above 2 things should tell you right off the bat whether you are going to have a good or a bad transaction.
If the person states that it is going out in 2 days and a week later you don't have a tracking number then the red flag should go up.
At that time you should be leary about the transaction. Usually what happens from the seller is a bunch of lame *** excuses that are just stall tactics. That person is usually going to tell you what you want to hear.
If at the 2nd request for shipping the person can't give you a date and tracking number than it's time to start the request for a refund.
Not when the time period has expired and paypal no longer allows a claim to be filed.
I'm very sympathetic to people getting scammed on this forum and it enrages me to see it happen. But what enrages me more is the buyer not taking pre-cautions to ensure that they will get what they have paid for.
I recommend you re-read what the forum moderators/owners have put about doing business on the forum and about what requirements are to be fullfilled if a dispute arises.
01-26-07, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
People need to only deal with reputable sellers, of which there are MAYBE 100 on this entire forum......
01-28-07, 05:02 PM
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I get it just fine. You didn't give any solid ways to "cover yourself."
I did everything I could to protect myself. Drama was responsive at first. I don't think you get it. A seller gives you his word as a man, and so you pay him. If the seller doesn't come through with the transaction, that doesn't mean that the right questions weren't asked by the buyer. It means the seller is a liar and a thief.
I initiated a paypal dispute before the deadline. Apparently it prompted Drama to send me an explicative laden PM on this forum. I then initiated a claim on the final day of the dispute. I was not awarded the claim because Drama sent 1 of 4 items. Had Drama sent 0 of 4 items, they would have judged in my favor. However, receiving a lower quantity than ordered is considered by paypal to be a dispute over the quality of the item, and paypal does not offer buyer protection of quality disputes outside of ebay. Basically, I got fucked.
Also, the funds that paid Drama came out my paypal account balance. I wish I had a $0 paypal balance and charged the items. Then I could have initiated a claim with the credit card company, but that's not how it worked out.
Keep ranting idiotically. I don't care; it brings the thread back to the top so everyone can see that Drama is a liar and a thief.
I did everything I could to protect myself. Drama was responsive at first. I don't think you get it. A seller gives you his word as a man, and so you pay him. If the seller doesn't come through with the transaction, that doesn't mean that the right questions weren't asked by the buyer. It means the seller is a liar and a thief.
I initiated a paypal dispute before the deadline. Apparently it prompted Drama to send me an explicative laden PM on this forum. I then initiated a claim on the final day of the dispute. I was not awarded the claim because Drama sent 1 of 4 items. Had Drama sent 0 of 4 items, they would have judged in my favor. However, receiving a lower quantity than ordered is considered by paypal to be a dispute over the quality of the item, and paypal does not offer buyer protection of quality disputes outside of ebay. Basically, I got fucked.
Also, the funds that paid Drama came out my paypal account balance. I wish I had a $0 paypal balance and charged the items. Then I could have initiated a claim with the credit card company, but that's not how it worked out.
Keep ranting idiotically. I don't care; it brings the thread back to the top so everyone can see that Drama is a liar and a thief.
Originally Posted by rx7doctor
You don't get it do you?
You did not cover your *** by doing the simple little things. So let me refresh them for you.
1). Ask when the product will go out
2). Ask for a tracking # on that day the person states the product will go out
Those above 2 things should tell you right off the bat whether you are going to have a good or a bad transaction.
If the person states that it is going out in 2 days and a week later you don't have a tracking number then the red flag should go up.
At that time you should be leary about the transaction. Usually what happens from the seller is a bunch of lame *** excuses that are just stall tactics. That person is usually going to tell you what you want to hear.
If at the 2nd request for shipping the person can't give you a date and tracking number than it's time to start the request for a refund.
Not when the time period has expired and paypal no longer allows a claim to be filed.
I'm very sympathetic to people getting scammed on this forum and it enrages me to see it happen. But what enrages me more is the buyer not taking pre-cautions to ensure that they will get what they have paid for.
I recommend you re-read what the forum moderators/owners have put about doing business on the forum and about what requirements are to be fullfilled if a dispute arises.
You did not cover your *** by doing the simple little things. So let me refresh them for you.
1). Ask when the product will go out
2). Ask for a tracking # on that day the person states the product will go out
Those above 2 things should tell you right off the bat whether you are going to have a good or a bad transaction.
If the person states that it is going out in 2 days and a week later you don't have a tracking number then the red flag should go up.
At that time you should be leary about the transaction. Usually what happens from the seller is a bunch of lame *** excuses that are just stall tactics. That person is usually going to tell you what you want to hear.
If at the 2nd request for shipping the person can't give you a date and tracking number than it's time to start the request for a refund.
Not when the time period has expired and paypal no longer allows a claim to be filed.
I'm very sympathetic to people getting scammed on this forum and it enrages me to see it happen. But what enrages me more is the buyer not taking pre-cautions to ensure that they will get what they have paid for.
I recommend you re-read what the forum moderators/owners have put about doing business on the forum and about what requirements are to be fullfilled if a dispute arises.
01-28-07, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MiataTurbo
I get it just fine. You didn't give any solid ways to "cover yourself."
I did everything I could to protect myself. Drama was responsive at first. I don't think you get it. A seller gives you his word as a man, and so you pay him. If the seller doesn't come through with the transaction, that doesn't mean that the right questions weren't asked by the buyer. It means the seller is a liar and a thief.
I initiated a paypal dispute before the deadline. Apparently it prompted Drama to send me an explicative laden PM on this forum. I then initiated a claim on the final day of the dispute. I was not awarded the claim because Drama sent 1 of 4 items. Had Drama sent 0 of 4 items, they would have judged in my favor. However, receiving a lower quantity than ordered is considered by paypal to be a dispute over the quality of the item, and paypal does not offer buyer protection of quality disputes outside of ebay. Basically, I got fucked.
Also, the funds that paid Drama came out my paypal account balance. I wish I had a $0 paypal balance and charged the items. Then I could have initiated a claim with the credit card company, but that's not how it worked out.
Keep ranting idiotically. I don't care; it brings the thread back to the top so everyone can see that Drama is a liar and a thief.
I did everything I could to protect myself. Drama was responsive at first. I don't think you get it. A seller gives you his word as a man, and so you pay him. If the seller doesn't come through with the transaction, that doesn't mean that the right questions weren't asked by the buyer. It means the seller is a liar and a thief.
I initiated a paypal dispute before the deadline. Apparently it prompted Drama to send me an explicative laden PM on this forum. I then initiated a claim on the final day of the dispute. I was not awarded the claim because Drama sent 1 of 4 items. Had Drama sent 0 of 4 items, they would have judged in my favor. However, receiving a lower quantity than ordered is considered by paypal to be a dispute over the quality of the item, and paypal does not offer buyer protection of quality disputes outside of ebay. Basically, I got fucked.
Also, the funds that paid Drama came out my paypal account balance. I wish I had a $0 paypal balance and charged the items. Then I could have initiated a claim with the credit card company, but that's not how it worked out.
Keep ranting idiotically. I don't care; it brings the thread back to the top so everyone can see that Drama is a liar and a thief.
I'm glad you don't get it because I can keep explaining it and others will see the post and know what to do when they have a transaction.
Heres some more things that you can do. Request pictures of the product.
Get the person's full name, work and home telephone if you have to. See if they have a ebay account you can review and if they are a paypal verified member.
I know that nothing is foolproof but be cautious if you feel uneasy about the transaction.
The only real gurantees in life are death and taxes and even taxes you can get out of.
Remember Miata Turbo, I am on your side.
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02-01-07, 08:10 AM
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i bought a turbo from him and at first had good communication and hazy shipping details but now he wont respond to me at all and i still dont have my turbo. I dont really expect to get it anymore...
02-01-07, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord TISL
i bought a turbo from him and at first had good communication and hazy shipping details but now he wont respond to me at all and i still dont have my turbo. I dont really expect to get it anymore...
02-01-07, 01:04 PM
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yeah, I have purchased 2 things from drama, one of which was very rare and took me a while to find. No problems at all, sorry to hear about your trouble. I guess, as with any feedback system, a few negatives can ruin all your positives.. good luck
02-22-07, 10:53 AM
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Drama: Good Guy
Today, out of the blue, I received a money order from Drama. It was a refund for the $60 that he owed me, as well as a letter explaining his side of the story.
Thank you Drama. I apologize for my part in this misunderstanding, and am glad that things are getting better for you. Good luck with your new career.
Moderator, would you please lock this thread?
Thank you Drama. I apologize for my part in this misunderstanding, and am glad that things are getting better for you. Good luck with your new career.
Moderator, would you please lock this thread?
02-23-07, 01:16 PM
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I'll throw in one more good response. when i first bought my junker fc, my logicon was busted and i was freezing my *** off. drama hooked me up within 3 business days, quick smooth transaction, no BS anywhere.
02-23-07, 01:41 PM
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So would you guys rather I just edit the thread title to something more positive? Locking it won't do anything, as thread is viewable. But seeing as drama has resolved those issues...what do you want me to do?
What would you like the thread title to say?
What would you like the thread title to say?
02-23-07, 09:05 PM
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Well where do i start, Ive had no computer for 2 months till tonight, My kids fucked up the last one, So yes I`ve had no real way to tell my side of the story, I have not had a job since in the end of march until, 12-23-06 I started a new one and so far so good, i`ve been there 9 weeks now I still have one person who is going to get a refund this week,The guy from Fl, with the purchase of the turbo.If you would please go through this thread and do away with the bad I would greatly appreciate it. I have always meant do to has good for everyone has i want to receive goods from others, If your not happy by all means please p.m. me and we can go from there,If i can keep my kids from the laptop it should stay running,They downloaded a **** load of music and it fried my hard drive, And without the funds to even pay back the ones on here, Then how the hell would i get another computer till now, I`am renting this one to own now,Good luck to all of you which have done business with me and i do hope we can do more in the future, I will be looking for some things for my 10th A.E. car very soon.//Louis//
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