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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Who's set is SET 5?

Set 5 is the XS Engineering T04S Single Turbo Kit set.

Whom ever is the owner or anyone using it, please contact me directly at cewrx7r1@yahoo.com. I have some questions.
Old Jan 28, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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I think Its Jasons map...Why is there something wrong with it?
Old Jan 28, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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I want to know at what boost levels it has been run at above 6000 rpm and if dynoed yet. It was for a single turbo stock port engine. My current OWN maps are very close to it above 4000 rpm.
Old Jan 29, 2002 | 02:52 AM
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that ignition map is the one that shreded every apex seal on my front rotor about a month ago... and I had plenty of fuel, so I'd be careful with it..
Old Jan 29, 2002 | 07:50 AM
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Dragon,

It was listed for a stock port engine with all other mods.

It keeps very high timing above 6000rpm for boost levels over 12PSI.
Not much difference there.


My dynoed maps for almost stock ported engine is hot in comparison
to other listed with similar or less mods than mine.
Old Jan 29, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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I was boosting 16psi... the timing top end under boost needs to be dropped... the rest of the map is cool...
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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So is this map ok to use for about 10 PSI? on all the mods listed on it?
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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It should be safe up to about 13 psi for "stock port" with any other mods. I am only talking about timing, not fuel. I say this because my timing maps are very similar.
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 12:44 AM
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Timing to save you the big hassle will be in the region of 30 to 35 deg advance to 90kpa, 20 odd up to 120kpa, and anywhere from as low as 10 to 17 total advance up to 200kpa Depending on what a/f you run, and what fuel, more importantly what exact type of porting/engine system specs you have. If you stick to a total engine advance of no more than 15 deg assuming your static timming (pick up) is set correctly ie: at factory mark. Then generaly you will not suffer any engine failures assuming there are no random points in your engine program (eg advance point or lean fuel point, this can happen!)
This was a quote from a riceracing post a ways back. If I convert these numbers over to psi we get something like 30 to 35 deg up to 13 psi and 20 deg at 17 psi. I think those maps cross over this guide.
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Old Feb 6, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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The reason I say they are good to 13psi boost and maybe not more, is look at the timing above row P17 for above N10(4000rpm). The timing does not drop off but about 1 degree. Since it is for stock port , maybe the engine can not take in more air at boost over 13PSI, but I doubt this.
Old Feb 6, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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Chuck, how's the datalogit going? I am still waiting for mine...
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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Have not used it since the one trial. I did not mention this, but this beta version that my friend owns, has at lease 3 bugs in it.

(1)The fuel correction by PIM RPM or VOLTS is displayed on the opposite screen. I had changes by volts, but it shows it by rpm.

(2)The unit would not monitor unless it was also logging.

(3)With the commander plugged into the unit , it lost it's interface
while accelerating. We had to remove the commander to make it work.

I am sorting out other problems that "occurred" while testing it. I do not know if the test caused problems to my PFC or if my J&S is going bad. I started having wacky J&S results upon connecting the datalogit. When going to my friends house to use the datalogit all was fine with normal J&S slight flickering. After connecting to the datalogit, the J&S went wild and I had strange activity even when pulling out timing. It appeared like the PFC went crazy. Some times the knock reading was low but the J&S was active. Some times the knock was very high. I had some very light pinging when the j&S was working but it should not have because my split was large enough. Until I resolve this issue, I will not use the datalogit again.

I have reset my PFC back to its defaults and unplugged it. I am slowly getting back on boost and watching everthing to insure all is well. I am also running the orig timing maps which have more retard. Before the test I was running fast and furious, now I am running scared.
I am telling the truth!
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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Did it run ok when you unpluged the datalogit??? Did it somehow load in a bad map into your pfc or does your controller still show the same info as always?

Keep us posted on everything!!!!! I'm supposed to have mine in about a week and what to know how its going before I plug into it

Thanks,
STEPHEN
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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It was still running weird after the datalogit was unplugged and the battery disconnected on the same day. That is why I totally initialized the PFC since then.

My friend did a no-no while I was driving and we were having the logging error. This was before really getting on the boost. He disconnected the commander from the datalogit while all were powered up!
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by cewrx7r1
The reason I say they are good to 13psi boost and maybe not more, is look at the timing above row P17 for above N10(4000rpm). The timing does not drop off but about 1 degree. Since it is for stock port , maybe the engine can not take in more air at boost over 13PSI, but I doubt this.
Chuck,
By looking at this map, it may not be scaled to read only 19 pounds of boost. It may be for a single running a 3 bar sensor. Which would explain why the timing is so high.
John

PS_ Keep us posted on the Datalogit.....please. I was going to orderone 5 min before I read your post.
Old Feb 7, 2002 | 08:51 PM
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They have fixed those bugs now... tell your friend to down load the new program from the Yahoo group...
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