straight out the box brand new? The commander and the ECU? Is there any wires or other stuff included besides the manual?

 

The PFC ecu comes with the ecu, some velcro, and instruction book. There are no wires as it plugs into the stock wiring harness.

The commander comes in a separate box, just the commander with integrated connection cable.

 

If you are cutting it close on cash...do yourself a favor. Forget the commander and pickup a datalogit.

Umm...that is if you have a laptop handy...

 

I disagree. Without the commander, you would have to keep a POWERED laptop in your car at all times...that won't work well on a road circuit...

The commander is very useful for daily driving, although I wouldn't want to have to change too many settings on it. Just changing a few fuel cells is a PIA.

 

what do you mean rynberg? on your daily driving what exactly do you use the commander for other than looking at temperatures? i am planning to just buy a pfc because i did not see any real need for tuning with the commander in the future?