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Old 10-16-06, 09:24 AM
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Question about PFC Ignition Abilities

Originally Posted by crispeed
Due to the design of magnetic/reluctor triggers as rpm increases ignition timing will vary or retard. I'm not going to get into why that happens but do the research and you'll find out for yourself. Most modern ECU's have some type of system built in to remedy that problem. Both the E-8 and 11 ecu series got variable trigger angle vs rpm so basicaly you can eliminate that problem, The previous or earlier 6 series didn't. Timing would retard depending on application up to 10 deg at high rpm. That problem got even worse if gains were increased. Anything placed between the ECU and the coils would aid the problem even further.Everyone's favorite Knock retard and Ignition amplifier box would be prime examples. I've seen up to 10 deg of retard at high rpm. Now for the dangerous part about this whole ordeal would be by placing the metioned above units only on the leading side would result in even more leading ignition high rpm retard than on the trailing side and we all know what that leads to if you're trying to run zero or just a little ignition split again depending on the application, on a heavy load or boosted application. KABOOM!
This is the main reason why the earlier Haltech ecu's were known to fire the trail before the leading when the split got very close. This is not a problem with the latter series once igntion setup is done properly.
You must always verify ignition timing at varied rpm levels for both leading and trailing events.
Do you guys know if the PFC accounts for this?
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Do you understand the term "dwell" as used with points ingnition systems?
The PFC has dwell tables in it. Maybe used for the same reason to keep timing/firing accurate. The PFC does add up to two degrees timing by 6000 rpm.
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as far as I understand it dwell time translates into how long the coil is energized, therefor at high rpms the coils are given less time to generate and collapse the magnetic field...

so changing the timing a few degrees wouldn't change the firing frequency... but perhaps this is done to correct for the variance in the crank signal?
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There are many PFC tables accessable with the DL and we do not know exactly what they do.
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