Anders_R

ah okey, but for my examples when i floor it @ 2500 rpm 3rd gear. when wich one does it use then ? guess it will be the first one?

Anders_R

i was thinking of making one last logg with theese settings exept changing to 0,80pr and 0,75sc and maybe 2% more duty on sc before changing trans

SonicRaT

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Correct.

You surely can, I don't think you'll notice much change other than your boost levels, and you still may have the strange 2nd gear issue, but it won't hurt anything.

Anders_R

yO

Been running for 2 hours now but it doesnt get better than this i get :S see what u think, the new trans are worse i think. the other "langeberga3-33-333" seems somehow kinda equal to eachother however i think 33 has the best transition though little less boost after trans. what do u think? compared to yesterday? and the 2nd gear doesnt change nomather what i do.. 50% chans its fucked 50% chans its going as yesterdays "22" logg :S

look close and see what u think mate thx

SonicRaT

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That's very odd. Your transition doesn't appear to have changed at all in the new transition logs. It's happening in exactly the same location as previously.... Weird. Perhaps write this value in, then power off - power on the car and make sure it's still set? Other than that, everything is looking pretty good, don't mind the 2nd gear boost too much right now, if we can get that transition down it should get better.

Anders_R

wich logg is best ? so i know what settings i should keep on car. though i dont get more than 0,7 after trans steady. guess ill have to be happy with that then :p the 33 one cant be much better on trans or? dropping to 0,61 only and very fast up again

SonicRaT

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33 looks pretty good. Still wondering why that transition point didn't change. Those runs essentially did us no good. Going to have to try a the power on/off or something and see if that'll get those settings working.

Anders_R

Atm when im changing settings i dont "write all" i just change it in settings and and then go logg and change again then logg etc, noneed to write all? thats only when power off ignition to save it to the ecu ?

SonicRaT

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Are you hitting 'update' after changing it? Or do you have 'Auto Update' checked? You need to hit that button for the setting to be applied to the PowerFC after you change it.

Have you not hit the 'Update' button after each change? That could explain why those logs look quite similar and the boost hasn't changed to the targets! Do a 'read all' and see what values are set currently.

Anders_R

Hmm now im really pissed off. started laptop and the "Auto update" wasnt checked anymore.. it was before. nice 200 dollars gas in damn waste...

The only loggs i know for sure is changed then is the ones i changed in the commander. the logg i did today "langeberga3" is from the commander settings i changed y-day 44-62. so that one i know for sure is properly updated. the others then i cant tell :S whats why there is to little diff betweens them? probably the airtemp that differs them apart :s ******* hell

edit: so all the loggs from today then i guess is 44-61 or 62 in settings then. and 0,75 0,65.. jesus christ....

SonicRaT

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Sorry man, that's depressing! I was wondering why the target didn't change nor the transition points! The only good news is that it is better than it was, just a shame that all of those logs are now somewhat moot as we don't know what was different between them!

Perhaps try in this order:

(Relatively current settings)
PR - .80 44
SC - .80 66


PR - .80 55
SC - .80 70

Also, use arghx's transition points. Maybe do a 'read all' after you've hit 'Update' just to be sure they're saved. Hopefully, this will be the last time!

Anders_R

Hi

Gonna try it tonight.

U think the 55-70 Will work good With so much on pr?
Pr boost is decent now i guess

SonicRaT

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It's just a test setup, but it should be fine especially with the transition moved earlier. Should give us a good indicator on where the settings stand as they are currently. It should be pretty decent with the first settings though and the transition setup earlier.

Anders_R

Hallo

Shall i test any runs With the trans i got now? Or just the New one?

SonicRaT

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Things are considerably better now with the changed duty cycle, so I don't much see the point. If moving the transition earlier really hurts response or causes a problem, perhaps then. For now, get that transition down and then dial in the duty cycles there and you should be good to go.

Anders_R

Ok Will do that later

Anders_R

Hi done testing!

2 loggs in 3rd gear and 1 quick in 2nd. the second gear worked good with new trans, also the 3rd gear runs if im not misstaken see for urself

First run dutys were 44-66 but i had to lower them little as u can see the boost was slightly 2 much. so the second run "33" i went with 42-61 and it seems decent i guess the 2nd gear run is also 42-61

SonicRaT

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Those look pretty good. Transition seems fine in both gears.

Anders_R

Hi!

So i should save it like this ? logg"33" with 42-61? and new trans settings ?

Anders_R

Hi mate
Talked to My tuner he Said that the trans settings "should not work good" Cuz i only preespool 2nd turbo from 3500-3760 normally is like 3000-4200 he Said. And that i Prolly got a broken solenid / turbo / hose

SonicRaT

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How did he come to that conclusion? The only way to make that statement is to separately monitor the precontrol valves (the PFC won't do it) and connect a boost gauge to the secondary turbos charge pipe to monitor its pressure while it is spooling. However, we have demonstrated already with your most recent logs that your transition is better now than it ever was before. In fact, your transition looks better than a good number of other logs I have saved from various cars. I don't know why they would say there is an issue with your prespool when there's nothing in the logs to support this. Everything looks pretty decent right now.

Anders_R

I got no idea mate. Or he Said My apexi is broken. But how can the car run "good" now then

SonicRaT

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everything seems to be in order, so I wouldn't change it. just drive it and see how it goes for a few days. it should already feel better

Anders_R

ye i will keep theese settings and run the car for a few days and observe
btw u got any idea what stock ecu trans settings is ?

arghx

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I checked out your logs, and yes your transition looks good now with the latest "33" settings. It's going to change with the weather some, but that's unavoidable. You're certainly welcome to try the other tuner guy's suggestions, but in the end you should pick whatever settings you feel make your car behave best.

The stock transition settings are supposedly based on gear position, throttle position, and rpm, according to the paper Mazda published on the engine.