Maglin

I'm sorry to ask but I can't find one for the life of me. I've just finished putting together my buddies FD. Mods include:

Street Ported 13B
850cc/1300cc Pri/Sec injectors (side feed)
Power FC w/Commander
Full Greddy SP 3.5" exhaust
GT35R Single turbo
Large upgraded Stock Mount IC


Prior the car was pretty much stock power plant wise with a non-sequential conversion done to it. I've set the injector settings and it starts and runs, but very badly. Doesn't want to hold an idle to save it's life. Their is a good amount of knock about 25% and no matter what I do it can't seem to get it to go down below 10%. IE... adding fuel and subtracting timeing to the point of almost 5* advance at idle. (which is set at 1000 RPMs) I know you are going to say either get DL or take to a tuner but I don't have access to a trailer and it's not my car and I'm not going to buy DL, but I'm tring to get him to buy it. I have a few WB02's laying around but they are LC-1's and for other peoples cars so I don't really want to use them on someone elses.

So if someone can get me a decent base map that might be slightly rich and conservative on the timings I would be greatfull. I currently don't have the turbo piping hooked up so as to not let it boost any. It's a new motor and the 3rd one for this particular car so I don't want it to go. Also what setting in misc. should I have disabled other than sequential turbo?

Thank you for any help.

Maglin

rynberg

You need a wideband minimum. No map from another car is going to be safe to use, even if it's "conservative". You pretty much need a datalogit to tune the car properly, especially with different injectors and a single turbo.

Besides, there are TONS of settings that can effect things, how are we supposed to get you a map? Manually write down each value of the various settings?

Maglin

Most people save these things in excel files or something simular. I know I do for the various cars I've worked on. I've tried to convince the cars owner to get a WB02. I've ran one for the longest time and any MegaSquirt installs I do a WB02 is a must or I won't even install the MS for them.

I was just going over all the stuff the DL can do and it really puts the commander to shame. Not to mention it wouldn't take me an hour to input all those values in those hugh tables. and a 20x20 table is just crazy. Anyways. I pretty much know what most forums people will say to my question just I was hoping someone had something I could start off with as a base map.

rynberg

My point is that most people do NOT have all those settings saved in Excel. Why would we when the FC-edit has it's own file structure? There are a lot of settings that aren't in the basic fuel/timing maps that can have dramatic effects on actual tune. You have to have access to the FC-edit software for any of us to really help you.

Maglin

Got it already. It's what I would expect for a stand alone. The PFC commander is not. And to be able to C&P makes tuning a hell of a lot easier. I do stuff in excel usually as it's more me friendly. I've pretty much got my buddy convinced to get the DL and he decided to go ahead and get the 3Bar MAP sensor. I've tried to get him to spend $200 for a WBO2 but he just won't so I'll just have to temp install one of my LC-1's as I just found out his NB is dead so I would like ot get this car in a pretty decent state of tune. It is moving in elevation about 3,000 feet I believe so I really want it to be safe.